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It's a tricky situation but the one thing I do know is that if you effectively have no free speech, then you have no free speech and that's a violation of your civil rights, this "durrrrr dat only means da gubment can't censor you" loophole needs to be closed.
Funny story: per SCOTUS case law, no such loophole exists. I know I keep bringing this up, but US v AP spelled that out with alphabet blocks, and more people should be aware of it.
SCOTUS said:
It would be strange indeed however if the grave concern for freedom of the press which prompted adoption of the First Amendment should be read as a command that the government was without power to protect that freedom. The First Amendment, far from providing an argument agains application of the Sherman Act, here provides powerful reasons to the contrary. That Amendment rests on the assumption that the widest possible dissemination of information from diverse and antagonistic sources is essential to the welfare of the public, that a free press is a condition of a free society. Surely a command that the government itself shall not impede the free flow of ideas does not afford non-governmental combinations a refuge if they impose restraints upon that constitutionally guaranteed freedom.
So we're actually at a worse position than commonly assumed: instead of smartalecks using a loophole in the law, they're specifically ignoring the law and counting on a servile press and millions of dollars' worth of lawyers to enable them to get away with it. And so far, it's worked.
 

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Fox News already won in court. The media can legally to you. I don't see how any corporate attorney wouldn't use that as precedent for social media.
 

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Funny story: per SCOTUS case law, no such loophole exists. I know I keep bringing this up, but US v AP spelled that out with alphabet blocks, and more people should be aware of it.


So we're actually at a worse position than commonly assumed: instead of smartalecks using a loophole in the law, they're specifically ignoring the law and counting on a servile press and millions of dollars' worth of lawyers to enable them to get away with it. And so far, it's worked.
They're also counting on millions of young dunning kruger debt slaves with literally no experience or success in anything, let alone law, to tell you how the law really works.
 
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Cloacan

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Im torn on this kind of thing. Im not remarkably fond of the govt telling private companies what they have to do.
>Private company exercises its monopoly to place financial system in hands of foreign interests
>Private company exercises its monopoly to subvert government for foreign interests
>Private company exercises its monopoly to miseducate your citizens to support foreign interests
>Private company exercises its monopoly to slow-boil population to replace them with foreign interests

I'm not remarkably fond of govt telling private companies that they cannot destroy the country. Muh free market! The US has literally private-companied itself out of its sovereignty.

But social media has become such a source of information and daily communication that something like this is getting necessary not to permit big silence dissent.
Non-social media, ie: television, hollywood, news, etc. has been playing a similar game for a long damn time. That combined with the subversion of educational institutions is precisely what has led social media firms to be filled with cultural marxist bugmen you now name as a great evil. They didn't just pop up suddenly. Confronting just social media is a failing tactic (though perhaps a welcome start?). Media and education in general need to checked as well.

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Tasty Tatty

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Im torn on this kind of thing. Im not remarkably fond of the govt telling private companies what they have to do. But social media has become such a source of information and daily communication that something like this is getting necessary not to permit big silence dissent. Its worthy one one of the memes with the two red buttons.
Governments already tell business what they can do, or rather what things they can't do. In this case, rather than forcing them to do something, it's more like "you can't ban or shadowban people due to their opinions because we have free speech laws".
 

Marissa Moira

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I care way more about my massive petty grudge against Silicon Valley turning everything into an iMac more than I care about poltics.
This, I really hate how modern hardware has less ability for the user to get under the hood and make changes and fix things for systems.

When you have to rely on smuggled schematics just to be able to fucking fix an do basic maintenance for an i-device it's really bad.
 

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Conservatives complaining about big corporations having too much power? I really can't sympathize.
I don't think there's any contradictory to the idea of conservatives using existing laws and processes in order to help keep society functioning in the way it historically has. It's not like they're creating special rules and laws to push an agenda. That would be them stepping into the liberal lane (which the type-Rs do, in many other cases.)
 
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I don't think there's any contradictory to the idea of conservatives using existing laws and processes in order to help keep society functioning in the way it historically has. It's not like they're creating special rules and laws to push an agenda. That would be them stepping into the liberal lane (which the type-Rs do, in many other cases.)
Conservatives did push the angle of corporatism quite hard back in the day, and are largely responsible for conflating anti-corporatism with being sympathetic to socialism or communism. Which in my opinion, it isn't. A huge oligopoly run by moneyed interests and thinktanks doesn't strike me as any different to a society organized into communes and combines. About the only difference the modern working world has to modern (read: not 1950s gluagism) communist systems is that you can leave your job without getting thrown in jail. Otherwise, its still a huge machine just blundering across the financial world and leaving misery in its wake.

I lay the blame for the modern communist and antifa movements squarely at the feet of conservatives because they created a whole generation of edgy rebels who glorify communism just because they don't like their shitty office job. I just want to hit both of their fucking heads together since I'm one of those people that would like to puzzle out a solution to corporatism while also not being a pinko.
 
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