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From the little moments I've felt powerful in my life I can definitely say that, at least to a certain segment of the population, power is the best fucking feeling ever. I have to imagine that the actual power junkies like rapists and murderers are so high on their own egos that they are completely out of their minds.
If you're curious as to whether or not you may be a person who enjoys power a little too much, I reccomend you purchase an object and then destroy it. Doesn't have to be anything expensive, just an ugly lamp or something from a yard sale. If it sounds stupid to waste your cash like that right up until the baseball bat comes down and obliterates that tacky piece of crap, you might be a dormant power junkie. If you break it and still feel like you wasted your time and money, congratulations on being sane and well-adjusted.
Clop
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Oh goodness no, I'm not going to waste money like that, I already know I'm a rapist.
That number lines up pretty evenly with my (presumed) number of people in the world that are so suggestible they'll just do whatever an important person tells them to because they rarely have thoughts of their own. Its probably the reason conversion therapies "work" in general. That and the fact that most people probably have lower standards for sexual partners than they're willing to admit. Someone may prefer to be gay but in the absence of decent partners they would logically end up resorting to women. In a fucked up way stuff like gay conversion therapy was successful because it created exactly this setup through social pressure.
Fuck the confederates, bunch of nigger lovers who wanted to keep importing niggers cause they were too lazy to pick their own cotton. Yeah Cletus, can't imagine how that could have unintended consequences. Unlike BASED Lincoln, who wanted to Send Them Back (remind you of anyone?) to africa.
Having a slave concubine was the "smoking weed while white" of the pre-Civil War Era. Sure, technically, you weren't supposed to do it; but it was so common, you'd have better luck trying to get the sun to stop rising in the morning. All you have to do to see how common it was is look at an average black from the Americas (not just the US), and look at an average Bantu from Africa.
The exact same thing happens in every slave society, and even non-slave societies with caste systems (though in practice, there's little difference). Hindus were allowed more wives depending on whether they belonged to a higher caste before the British Empire came along. And horrific sexual abuse of lower-caste, and casteless, women by higher-caste men is still horrifically common in India.
And it's not like you had to be a slaveowner to get away with raping a slave. All you had to do was not get caught. They'd have nobody to tell once it was over, and it's very likely it was as common or more common than the current sexual abuse of low-caste and casteless Indians by higher-caste Indians.
Prostitutes are never a better oppurtunity for on-demand sex than a slave or a concubine. Prostitutes cost money, live independently, sleep with whoever pays them, and can say "no".
Slaves and concubines can be fucked by their masters as many times as their master wants, are not allowed to sleep with anybody their master doesn't want them too, and have no recourse if they make the mistake of saying "no".
There's a reason why it took so long to outlaw slavery and concubinage.
This is the bullshittiest one of all. Men from all regions of the world find all holes sexually attractive.
People don't go gay in prison to assert dominace over others. They go gay because they're lonely and horny. The assertion of dominance is for the chance at being the top, which is easier and more pleasurable for the vast majority of men.
War rape and incels happen for the same reason. They're lonely and horny and have nothing to satisfy it with. It turns men evil. But at least war rape happens after men go through actual suffering. Incels are the First-World problem version of Jihadists, but at least Jihadists have an ethos.
I don't want to read some shit like that.
I'm sure most slave girls would willingly fuck a white man, let alone her master. The notion is that, even if she begged for it, it was rape because she was a slave. The power dynamic is too extreme to not be rape.
That is a neo liberal notion that I disagree with.
Emperor Julian
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Didnt rape as many as people say even if true is pretty much the most damning of Damned by faint praise.
Also why the fuck are you pondering this shit? It's a pretty fucking weird train of thought.
Also why the fuck are you pondering this shit? It's a pretty fucking weird train of thought.
Yeah I've had power quite a few times in my life and command a certain degree now, it's fucking amazing even if you're using if for good anyone whose a dopermine junky is gonna love that shit.
Women are always attracted to higher status males. This is on primal level, physiologically, women will try to mate higher and from occasional outsiders to keep gene pool wide.
Stigma of skin color was big and still is in a lot of 3rd world countries. Go to India and see how the divershitty portraied in Holyweird movies about times past really looks like.
A lot of rich dudes never acknowledged their bastards with white servants, majority of time. Some people fuck pigs today. Those are not people accepted in society, it's not something they admit to publicly.
Stigma of skin color was big and still is in a lot of 3rd world countries. Go to India and see how the divershitty portraied in Holyweird movies about times past really looks like.
A lot of rich dudes never acknowledged their bastards with white servants, majority of time. Some people fuck pigs today. Those are not people accepted in society, it's not something they admit to publicly.
roxitp0w3rwuzdabest420
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First reason why you're wrong is the fact that 80% of the African American population has at least 20% European DNA. That's not counting the folks with less than 20% that doesn't mean they all were raped considering prior to the revolution it wasn't illegal or uncommon for white indentured servants to marry black slaves
Second this ain't /pol/ and no one cares
Second this ain't /pol/ and no one cares
1. Who cares? Sexual revolution is absolutely the best thing that has happened to mankind ever. It's just exceptional to think otherwise.
2. Aleister Crowley was many things(among them zoophile and necrophile, if rumours are to be believed), but he had next to nothing to do with the formation of Satanism as we know it today, except that of course satanists here and there have taken fascination at his work. While Thelema has certain similarities with some schools of Satanism, they are essentially completely different philosophies.
I completely disagree, but even if it were the case; then it would be no less valuable understanding the events and research that paved the way and laid the ground for the sexual revolution to happen. Perhaps even more so.
If you think it's the best thing to ever happen, it should interest you. The fact that it doesn't is telling.
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You portray him as the originator of sexual revolution as if that would be a crime in some way, and to that was original "Who cares?". I know very well what influence Kinsey has had to the society, although in my opinion it's a bit hyperbolic to say that it was only the Kinsey's research that started it. From what I've heard from the people born in the forties and fifties, just about everyone in their generation was really fed up with the puritanical "no-sex-before-marriage" bullshit, so essentially sexual revolution of the sixties would have happened anyways in my estimation.
Just for the record, how the hell can you argue to yourself that it was not a good thing?
babaGAReeb
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white on black rape should have roughly the same rate as bestiality
on second thought i dont think there was any difference between the two
on second thought i dont think there was any difference between the two
I remember seeing an Alternative Hypothesis video where the homomayo looked at survey data about how many former slaves were aware of any rape incidents. I recall that as best as can be figured out, semi-objectively, the rate was fairly low though definitely present.
The question in the OP is only interesting if you are unaware that genetics is still being studied, and because of genetics research we know conclusively that yeah, white slave owners fucked their slaves all the time. Being a slave makes it impossible to meaningfully consent, and rape was essentially a property crime back then (against the husband/father of a woman). The modern concept of sexual consent didn't exist, "consent" was marriage or ownership.
here is an article from 2007 talking about it
www.theguardian.com
here is an article from 2007 talking about it
The genes that build America: Piecing together the DNA jigsaw
From the discovery that presidential hopeful Barack Obama is descended from white slave owners to the realisation that the majority of black Americans have European ancestors, a boom in 'recreational genetics' is forcing America to redefine its roots. Paul Harris pieces together the DNA jigsaw...
www.theguardian.com
The case is the same with Natives in most of North America. The Lumbee tribe had surnames like William and were thought to be the lost Roanoke colonists for a long time.The question in the OP is only interesting if you are unaware that genetics is still being studied, and because of genetics research we know conclusively that yeah, white slave owners fucked their slaves all the time. Being a slave makes it impossible to meaningfully consent, and rape was essentially a property crime back then (against the husband/father of a woman). The modern concept of sexual consent didn't exist, "consent" was marriage or ownership.
here is an article from 2007 talking about it
The genes that build America: Piecing together the DNA jigsaw
From the discovery that presidential hopeful Barack Obama is descended from white slave owners to the realisation that the majority of black Americans have European ancestors, a boom in 'recreational genetics' is forcing America to redefine its roots. Paul Harris pieces together the DNA jigsaw...
In Canada there is a group called the Metis who are half white(Scottish/French) and half Native. What is interesting is that nearly all natives are half white so these Metis are basically just natives that pass as white.
As others have stated the average African American has 25% European genes. That couldn’t have happened without sex. Keep in mind that slaves were considered property and that their owner could do whatever he wanted to them. They probably had sex whenever the master had blue balls.
Interestingly, some slaves did manage to use their sexuality to move up in society. One notable example is Chica da Silva in Brazil. She’s somewhat romanticized but it’s still an interesting story.
The other issue that I have with this narrative is that there are examples of straight people changing their sexuality due to physical and emotional trauma. If straight people can change their sexuality, why wouldn’t it be possible the other way around?
In general, humans are more malleable than we’d like to admit. Also, I’m not saying sexuality is a choice, rather I believe it’s a mixture of culture, socialization, environment, experience, chance, and genetics. Sometimes those external variables change and so can one’s sexuality.
Interestingly, some slaves did manage to use their sexuality to move up in society. One notable example is Chica da Silva in Brazil. She’s somewhat romanticized but it’s still an interesting story.
Conversion therapy is immoral but I don’t quite buy the idea that people can’t be forcibly changed, especially youth. The main reason I doubt this narrative is neuroplasticity. If people were static and unchanging I would expect our brains to be as well. Although imo social pressures are much more effective than just physical ones but using either or both to try to change someone is unethical. This change can be accomplished by isolating them socially, breaking them down with insults and punishments (physical and mental), then rewarding and praising them when they do what you want. That’s how cults work and it’s also how nomads would convert their captives into one of them (Comanche Empire pg 250). It’s definitely possible to change someone’s identity along with their loyalty. It’s just wrong and there’s a good chances the victims will be scarred for life.
The other issue that I have with this narrative is that there are examples of straight people changing their sexuality due to physical and emotional trauma. If straight people can change their sexuality, why wouldn’t it be possible the other way around?
In general, humans are more malleable than we’d like to admit. Also, I’m not saying sexuality is a choice, rather I believe it’s a mixture of culture, socialization, environment, experience, chance, and genetics. Sometimes those external variables change and so can one’s sexuality.
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