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Pocket Dragoon

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He wasn'


Evidently he wasn't a felon. He pled down on all those charges.
Shouldn't have mattered; the domestic charges alone fall under Lautenberg, even if they're misdemeanors.

If he bought one at an gun shop, he'd have committed another felony by lying on the Form 4473, and should've been pinged by the system for having domestic convictions.

Should've, being the operative word; but the system has been fucked up for a long time. And now they're dumping mental health records into an already clogged database? Yeaaaaah......
 

JimmerSnail

Waaaay too serious
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What a miserable little faggot, popping off three seemingly random shots from behind a corner like the ultimate waste of flesh. Like, all of these so called “shooters” are pretty pathetic; but this takes the cake of cowardice.
Indeed.
"Ummmh, today I will kill some random civilians that are minding their own business and aren't generally a problem because I'm some subhuman piece of thrash". At least that guard dealt with that piece of garbage pretty quickly (but not enough)

at the very least im glad the mythical 'good guy with a gun' was present to stop the shooter
At one point in the video there were more guns than people (and that helped dealing with the situation).
+1 for "the Lord's army"
 

Pearls Before Swine

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This kind of shit is what any pandering liberal suburb has to look forward to, it's a shame this has been swept under the rug. There are down and out people amongst the homeless population but people like this shitbird are now catered to under the same backpats as the people low on their luck. Most of these people are in their position for a good fucking reason, and should be treated like the degenerates they are. it's a shame noone put this mad dog down before this old badass did. Should've been left out to the elements at birth.
 

Vecr

"nanoposts with 90° spatial rotational symmetries"
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Shouldn't have mattered; the domestic charges alone fall under Lautenberg, even if they're misdemeanors.

If he bought one at an gun shop, he'd have committed another felony by lying on the Form 4473, and should've been pinged by the system for having domestic convictions.

Should've, being the operative word; but the system has been fucked up for a long time. And now they're dumping mental health records into an already clogged database? Yeaaaaah......
I mean, it's possible he had it stashed somewhere, and wanted to use it before the cops went looking for it or something.
 
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Cactus Wings

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I would have not even known where he was in the video until the shot went off if you hadn't said he was in the corner. Wow, he didn't even run to the front or into the crowds or anything.
To be fair, who the fuck gets up during the preacher talking? Not to mention around people who practice and support guns? Everyone is gonna stare either in disbelief someone is that rude, or out of sheer gun trigger itch.
 

JelloJerk

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To be fair, who the fuck gets up during the preacher talking? Not to mention around people who practice and support guns? Everyone is gonna stare either in disbelief someone is that rude, or out of sheer gun trigger itch.
Was he talking? I figured he got up during the quiet prayer time, which makes it even more vile, attempting to shoot people while they're deep in prayer.
 

Jump

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He was also caught with a shotgun when he was arrested in NJ. Maybe that's the type of weapon he's most comfortable with or able to obtain for whatever reason.
Probably just cost/ease of attaining thing. You can get shotguns for 200-$300 all day and they are in every pawn shop and Walmart.

Its nice how he was able to plead down all these felony charges to misdemeanors.On multiple occasions. So he was able to keep his right to buy guns.
The government will say we need MORE gun restrictions when it's the government that is sabotaging the ones we already have.
They will go back to the gun dealer that sold him the shotgun and nail them. When in reality it is the judge who let him plead down the previous gun charges that should be held accountable.
 

Pocket Dragoon

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Probably just cost/ease of attaining thing. You can get shotguns for 200-$300 all day and they are in every pawn shop and Walmart.

Its nice how he was able to plead down all these felony charges to misdemeanors.On multiple occasions. So he was able to keep his right to buy guns.
The government will say we need MORE gun restrictions when it's the government that is sabotaging the ones we already have.
They will go back to the gun dealer that sold him the shotgun and nail them. When in reality it is the judge who let him plead down the previous gun charges that should be held accountable.
If a legal gun dealer had sold him a shotgun, the background check system failed (and/or the guy lied on the 4473). That dealer can't be held liable, if so.

Having had misdemeanor convictions for domestic violence, automatically nixes him being able to legally buy, obtain, transport, hold onto, shoot, or even live with one. That's due to a federal law, the Lautenberg Amendment.
However, states don't always transmit that info to the ATF, until recently. The change came after that other Texas church slaughter.

I believe the updated Form 4473 now also asks "have you ever been charged or convicted of a domestic violence crime".
 
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carltondanks

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Agreed, and I honestly think if the media didn't sensationalize mass shootings and use them to push agendas, I think we'd see a lot less mass shootings because there would be a lot less copycats.

Part of why we see more mass shootings in the years since Columbine is because the media has attached a sort of aura of mystique around many shooters, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold in particular, painting them as vengeful outcasts who wanted payback instead of the true image of a narcissistic psychopath and his suicidal lackey.

They've only recently caught onto hyping up the identity of the shooters being what inspires copycats, but now they use that to push agendas. If the shooter is a white male or has right-wing beliefs, they will endlessly hype that up all over the media, while if the shooter is a minority or has certain left-wing beliefs, they'll memory hole the entire thing as much as possible.

Dayton was a weird example. When it turned out the shooter was left-wing and was an Antifa supporter (if not an actual member of a local Antifa group), all sorts of Antifa groups and left-wing media outlets tried to paint him as this right-wing incel and cited his fondness for metal and anime as evidence, which didn't hold up to scrutiny once it got out that he got laid a lot because he was in a band.

Once it was determined that Connor Betts was an ordinary spree killer more in line with a disgruntled postal worker than an agenda-driven killer or attention-seeker, they dropped a lot of the rhetoric and deflection.
mass shootings end up increasing gun sales anyway, so it usually has the opposite effect that the media wants
 
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