Who Is The Franz Ferdinand To Start WW3? -

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

Who could be assassinated to spark WW3? Like Iran killing a US senator or something. The death could be from either side, generally we will say Russia and China and their allies are one side and the EU and the US and their allies are on another.

No leaders like Putin or Biden can be assassinated.

Top of my list would be your mom, second only to the minister of agriculture

 

[Radical Cadre]

I hope it is Donald Trump. That would... man that would be just perfect.

 

[JethroTullamore]

Ask this furry, I bet he knows, can’t remember his name though.

 

[Gone Ham]

Bojo or whoever is leading Italy rn

 

[Crazedking]

dunno, things are relatively stable imo. Once some of the old guard in countries like russia or middle east start dying and you see some new up and coming leaders wanting to make their mark is when shit will pop off. give it another 10-20 years imo.

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

dunno, things are relatively stable imo. Once some of the old guard in countries like russia or middle east start dying and you see some new up and coming leaders wanting to make their mark is when shit will pop off. give it another 10-20 years imo.

yeah, but you have to imagine that if a Russian linked terrorist group assassinated someone as important as kamalla harris there would be major retaliation, even war

 

[Absolutego]

There won't be anything directly analogous to Franz Ferdinand that starts WWIII. The extremity of total war post-WWI makes it unlikely that one politician's assassination would drive any country to start nakedly posturing for war the way Austria-Hungary was towards Serbia. And, of course, the current geopolitical environment is divvied up between the alliance networks of a declining hegemon and the resident upstart, instead of a group of roughly equal Great Powers.

WWIII is more likely to be set up WWII-style, where a rising power keeps flexing their diplomatic might to demand concessions from their neighbors, until they take a step too far and the rest of the world intervenes. Off the top of my head, a dispute between India and China over water rights in the Himalayas could trigger war. I'd list the annexation of Taiwan as a potential starter, but looking at how we treat Eastern Europe and the slow annexation of the former Soviet states by Russia, I give it even odds the western world just rolls over should the ROC ever be invaded (although, unlike Eastern European shitholes, Taiwan does produce some pretty critical goods, what with all the chip manufactories, so maybe there'd be more concern).

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

There won't be anything directly analogous to Franz Ferdinand that starts WWIII. The extremity of total war post-WWI makes it unlikely that one politician's assassination would drive any country to start nakedly posturing for war the way Austria-Hungary was towards Serbia. And, of course, the current geopolitical environment is divvied up between the alliance networks of a declining hegemon and the resident upstart, instead of a group of roughly equal Great Powers.

WWIII is more likely to be set up WWII-style, where a rising power keeps flexing their diplomatic might to demand concessions from their neighbors, until they take a step too far and the rest of the world intervenes. Off the top of my head, a dispute between India and China over water rights in the Himalayas could trigger war. I'd list the annexation of Taiwan as a potential starter, but looking at how we treat Eastern Europe and the slow annexation of the former Soviet states by Russia, I give it even odds the western world just rolls over should the ROC ever be invaded (although, unlike Eastern European shitholes, Taiwan does produce some pretty critical goods, what with all the chip manufactories, so maybe there'd be more concern).

I agree, but the question is if there's anyone important enough that if they were killed it would lead to war. If you don't think there's anyone that's valid, but tell if you do

 

[break these cuffs]

Chris

 

[Absolutego]

I agree, but the question is if there's anyone important enough that if they were killed it would lead to war. If you don't think there's anyone that's valid, but tell if you do

If a truncated WWIII starts from one politician's death, it's gonna be a death within some country causing a huge power vacuum where they go ballistic on their neighbors to distract from the crisis at home. That rules out most western democracies (they have leadership well spread out), and both major prospective WWIII antagonists in China and Russia.

Basically, unless Kim Jong Un unexpectedly bites it, North Korea decides to go rocket crazier to keep the government afloat, and China doesn't throw them to the curb (like they've been low-key wanting to ever since Kim Jong Il started publicly embarrassing them in exchange for old tractors), no single person's death will spiral out into a world war.

 

[A Welsh Cake]

It’s gonna be a Korean. I feel it in my bones. Maybe that BTS people will be the catalyst, when some crazy daughter of a Chinese politician murders one.

 

[Zelos Wilder]

Maybe the true Franz Ferdinand was the friends we made along the way.

 

[COCl₂]

There won't be anything directly analogous to Franz Ferdinand that starts WWIII. The extremity of total war post-WWI makes it unlikely that one politician's assassination would drive any country to start nakedly posturing for war the way Austria-Hungary was towards Serbia. And, of course, the current geopolitical environment is divvied up between the alliance networks of a declining hegemon and the resident upstart, instead of a group of roughly equal Great Powers.

WWIII is more likely to be set up WWII-style, where a rising power keeps flexing their diplomatic might to demand concessions from their neighbors, until they take a step too far and the rest of the world intervenes. Off the top of my head, a dispute between India and China over water rights in the Himalayas could trigger war. I'd list the annexation of Taiwan as a potential starter, but looking at how we treat Eastern Europe and the slow annexation of the former Soviet states by Russia, I give it even odds the western world just rolls over should the ROC ever be invaded (although, unlike Eastern European shitholes, Taiwan does produce some pretty critical goods, what with all the chip manufactories, so maybe there'd be more concern).

And even then, it was more about warmongering generals than it ever was about the assassination of FF. Franz Josef was relieved almost he was dead. He never thought of his death as a casus belli, but his generals sure as fuck did.

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

It’s gonna be a Korean. I feel it in my bones. Maybe that BTS people will be the catalyst, when some crazy daughter of a Chinese politician murders one.

unironically, this is the most likely answer. that or some chinese popstar goes on tour in south korea and gets assassinated by angry nationalists

And even then, it was more about warmongering generals than it ever was about the assassination of FF. Franz Josef was relieved almost he was dead. He never thought of his death as a casus belli, but his generals sure as fuck did.

which generals? you mean mythical military genius Franz Conrad von Hotzendorff

 

[COCl₂]

which generals? you mean mythical military genius Franz Conrad von Hotzendorff

He did finally put the AH empire out of its misery, so there was that.

 

[Milkis]

If a truncated WWIII starts from one politician's death, it's gonna be a death within some country causing a huge power vacuum

Who's going to replace Putin and will the Chinese think it prudent to ensure his successor is friendly to China?

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

A butterfly, or whatever animal they killed in the original A Sound of Thunder

 

[COCl₂]

I was at the National WWI Museum a few days ago and was annoyed that they only played speeches by Kaiser Wilhelm II. Like as much as I hate chittering, Atatuerk would have been interesting to hear to break up the monotony. Shit, now I just realized, I am not sure I saw anything on Gallipoli there period where I saw. Interesting place though and recommend for any WWI spergs.

 

[Absolutego]

Who's going to replace Putin and will the Chinese think it prudent to ensure his successor is friendly to China?

He's got a couple dudes floating around as obvious successors, Medvedev being one of the bigger ones IMO. I really don't think the Chinese will care all that much unless the successor is Yeltsin-tier pro-west; the Russians and Chinese have a bunch of geopolitical factors that make them natural allies....at the moment. There's no need to ensure the Russian head of state is blatantly pro-Chinese so long as he's charting a course of Russian self-interest that remains mildly antagonistic to NATO.

 

[lurk_moar]

Android 19 or Winnie the Pooh.