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they're cameos of gravity falls and steven universe characters
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Ooooooh! I can totally see Mabel and Dipper in the back.

Connie though you would have hold them side by side to recognize.
This isn't too shocking though considering same artists worked on P&S, and to be fair Gravity Falls wasn't like the woke trash Western Animation became as that was right before that shit.
 

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This entire thread in a nutshell


I don't think determining the quality on art based on where it came from is a good idea. Both parts of the world have their fair share of good and shit art regardless and no using shows you don't like steven universe or chargeman ken doesn't debunk that. I'm just tired of see this autistic debate pop up every couple of years the on;y difference is now there is "politics" in the mix now. Art is not inherently better just because its from a different country.
 
There are entire threads dedicated to Asian art-horror works, they are not above deviant art level. With that said the 90% of Everything Is Crap rule applies to both sides of the aisle. For every Over The Garden Wall we get a truck load of CalArts shit where the main selling point is that the creator fucks their own gender and if you want to see what's going on in the manga side of things just head over to mangadex and be buried under the billion isekai shovelware garbage.
 

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The real question is why have both cultures popular art turned to shit when compared to the popular art of each cultures past.

When you compare anime to medieval-late 19th century Japanese art it's not even fair. Their art was incredibly unique instead of just copy pasting cartoon chicks with big eyes and pallet swapped hair.

Same with western art (the Renaissance, the Romantic Period, etc.) where the art was so incredibly powerful and becoming almost more real than life itself.

Now art is just cartoons, porn, and fan fiction.
With Japan, traditional art died because of capitalism since cartoons are more profitable on a mass level.

With the West, it's because of anti-capitalism. Postmodernism was a mistake

Most contemporary animu/mango art is little more than a(n autism) spectrum of endless variants of the exact same generic cootie-cutter snout-nosed "moe" art style that first sprang up in the early 2000s. You have to be legitimately huffing paint if you honestly think that is somehow intrinsically superior to any given "Western"* art style.

*which frankly just translates to "non-animango"
Assuming OP isn't just posting low quality bait (which he is because OP is a faggot) I think it's all because of the fact that by Western, he means American, and the "CalArts style" that's dominant in America is intentionally ugly to the point that it makes the most generic moe art look good.

The pretentiousness of wokesters is also far worse than those of the weebs.

It isn't uniquely good. It's just able to covertly serve an illegal category.
Lemme guess, next you're going to say that rock music and sci-fi novels are a gateway to Satan and that the purple Teletubby is gay.

I view that western art is no better or worse than Japanese art. It just that for the west, your race, genitals, and most importantly, your political views, decides whether or not you get to work on anything mainstream.
This is the biggest reason why Japanese pop culture/pulp entertainment has gotten better than American fare in recent years. Without the crippling dominance of the Woke Left in our culture and the CalArts/Tumblr crowd, they'd be on a more even footing.
 
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imo those Slavs who churn out highly competent digital paintings and concept art for dirt cheap commissions are keeping things real in the "West"
 
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imo those Slavs who churn out highly competent digital paintings and concept art for dirt cheap commissions are keeping things real in the "West"
Do you have links to hubs/archives/forums/platforms to such Slavic art?
 
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This west vs east shit is autistic, artists of all kinds exists everywhere.
Jap art is usually seen as better than western one because the weebs who claim this never bother to search for the good western ones or that Japanese art imported to the west are one of the good ones which created an idea that all japanese art is good.

But whatever I'm gonna post some western art I find neat:
Say what you will about the Cerberus story and meta, the art in this is great.
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Lackadaisy is one of the few furry comics I like. Tracy Butler is a great artist, I love the way she colors/renders and she can draw humans well too. I also love that she has her work centered around the Midwest USA, and not on overrated places like California or New York
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Unsounded is also the same, has really good art and the artist is not much of a jerk. Fantasy webcomics can be a mixed bag sometimes
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There is also video game art, I think that's where all of the good western artists go nowadays.
 

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When it comes to comic art it’s because you got an influx of talentless hacks hired because of a diversity hire and as a result, the larger output of comic companies end up being shit.

Manga is more cutthroat and competitive. You don’t do so well on the popularity polls? Your comic dies.

But even then there’s always shit Mangas and wonderful gems from western comic book artists. It’s just that the most vocal of the two groups end up having significant quality differences.
 

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Found the pedo.

She's not 12, she's a 2000 year old vampire!
OK Pedo

Methinks the fundie doth project too much. Why am I reminded of the joke about the priest and the altar boy? To say nothing of all those green-eyed inbred Calvinists who rape their own daughters...

Traditionalists like you belong on a cross, just like your hook-nosed kike charlatan messiah.
 
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OK Pedo

Methinks the fundie doth project too much. Why am I reminded of the joke about the priest and the altar boy? To say nothing of all those green-eyed inbred Calvinists who rape their own daughters...

Traditionalists like you belong on a cross, just like your hook-nosed kike charlatan messiah.
Everyone who dislikes gays must be gay, everyone hates pedos must be pedo. Sure sure.

I guess all you've got left is "no u!"
 

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Everyone who dislikes gays must be gay, everyone hates pedos must be pedo. Sure sure.

I guess all you've got left is "no u!"
And all you've got left is "muh degeneracy" since you think anyone who's not some traditionalist redneck edgelord like yourself is automatically a gay pedophile Moloch cultist. Pot, meet kettle.

The problem is that in your warped Calvinist mindset (I'm assuming you're a Protestant trad since you're Dutch) anything remotely related to anime must be pedophilia because any kind of fun or enjoyment is a degenerate totally depraved sin in the eyes of Yahweh. To you, enjoying a Rolling Stones song or casually watching a rerun of Gundam Wing while you're folding clothes is every bit as equally depraved as raping a child since it's all sin in the eyes of your abusive and evil Jewish deity.

The reason why the "no u" argument is invoked is because the bulk of the highly vocal extreme hardliner traditionalists are equivalent to the male feminist beardo sex pests of "Current Year". That's not to say all fundies are pedos or rapists or gays but it's a disturbingly common trend and we see it repeated with male feminists

So don't get butthurt when someone brings that up when you go on your delusional rants about why we're not lynching "degenerates" for celebrating Halloween and whistling on the Sabbath.

I hate pedos too, but I'm not a pedo nor am I a loudmouth pretentious moralizer compensating for something.
 
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Indeed, that vlog then PJW posted in 2016 about modern art aged well.
It's honestly one of the few things PJW said that has aged well at all. Most of the time, he's a cringe tryhard but he's dead on the money with that one.

Fuck postmodernism. Foucalt was a pied piper peddling his lies and pseudo-intellectual garbage to subvert and destroy the culture. He's no different than Augustine of Hippo in my book, who was to the 4th Century what Foucalt and Trotsky were to the 20th Century.
 

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And all you've got left is "muh degeneracy" since you think anyone who's not some traditionalist redneck edgelord like yourself is automatically a gay pedophile Moloch cultist. Pot, meet kettle.

The problem is that in your warped Calvinist mindset (I'm assuming you're a Protestant trad since you're Dutch) anything remotely related to anime must be pedophilia because any kind of fun or enjoyment is a degenerate totally depraved sin in the eyes of Yahweh. To you, enjoying a Rolling Stones song or casually watching a rerun of Gundam Wing while you're folding clothes is every bit as equally depraved as raping a child since it's all sin in the eyes of your abusive and evil Jewish deity.

The reason why the "no u" argument is invoked is because the bulk of the highly vocal extreme hardliner traditionalists are equivalent to the male feminist beardo sex pests of "Current Year". That's not to say all fundies are pedos or rapists or gays but it's a disturbingly common trend and we see it repeated with male feminists

So don't get butthurt when someone brings that up when you go on your delusional rants about why we're not lynching "degenerates" for celebrating Halloween and whistling on the Sabbath.

I hate pedos too, but I'm not a pedo nor am I a loudmouth pretentious moralizer compensating for something.
It's fun saying weebs are pedo's, because some will always get overly defensive about it.

Just look at all the ranting you're doing and how off base you are. It's impressive how wrong you are considering the length of essays we've exchanged in discussion at this point.

Besides, if people being overly defensive about something means they secretly are that, that would mean you're a covert fundamentalist christian.

I don't think you are. It shows once again that it's just an alinsky style political tactic, that's essentially just a "no u".
 
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