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Erika Furudo

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It’s not an identity politics thing, mainstream media has to be as bland and unchallenging as possible to make sure grandma and grandkid can watch/listen/play together and the gay is in vogue right now so it makes sense for that to be what they want to appeal to so they can squeeze every dollar out from our cultural zeitgeist. Same for whatever else is trending and might bother the discerning audience member as few and far between as we may be.
Didn't people say interracial porn never made a profit? We all know Youtube never made a profit, and that was before they started fucking with the algorithim.
It's not about money, it's about social engineering. You say shit like "Well it's about maximising proft" then why the fuck are we seeing black people in British historical shows? Only the most ardent SJW's would whine they arent, and the majority of people wouldn't care. Lots of cases of go woke go broke, again it's not working out. But it's not about money, if it were about money media would be entirely apolitical.
 

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Didn't people say interracial porn never made a profit? We all know Youtube never made a profit, and that was before they started fucking with the algorithim.
It's not about money, it's about social engineering. You say shit like "Well it's about maximising proft" then why the fuck are we seeing black people in British historical shows? Only the most ardent SJW's would whine they arent, and the majority of people wouldn't care. Lots of cases of go woke go broke, again it's not working out. But it's not about money, if it were about money media would be entirely apolitical.
You’re talking out of your ass, black people show up in historical drama because they have money now as a societal bloc and if there’s a black character then black viewers tune in at such and such percentage and also give the 8 media conglomerates who control what you see unbelievable cover to make whitebread stupid content without being called out. Look at the disparity between Disney’s mainstream cable TV garbage and their prestige projects.

It is always, always, always money. Everything else is a distant secondary concern.

source: I have professional experience in television and radio news and entertainment media.
 

Erika Furudo

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You’re talking out of your ass, black people show up in historical drama because they have money now as a societal bloc and if there’s a black character then black viewers tune in at such and such percentage and also give the 8 media conglomerates who control what you see unbelievable cover to make whitebread stupid content without being called out. Look at the disparity between Disney’s mainstream cable TV garbage and their prestige projects.

It is always, always, always money. Everything else is a distant secondary concern.
Ah yes, black people are well known for being very interested in ancient European history. Bro if you wanted to go with demographics, and particularly demographics with money, you would see asians. Strangely enough they are entirely absent from those settings. But hey, I guess those businesses just hate money.
 

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Ah yes, black people are well known for being very interested in ancient European history. Bro if you wanted to go with demographics, and particularly demographics with money, you would see asians. Strangely enough they are entirely absent from those settings. But hey, I guess those businesses just hate money.
They don’t hate money, they are just shortsighted and stupid. And yes, the black community, that is why, and I’ll explain it slow this time:

1. you have a show that doesn’t have minority cast members so minorities generally don’t tune in
2. You add some to *~grow the brand~*
3. Give Alphabet some money to serve some targeted ads
4. Your audience has grown. You have a bigger money pie.

does it make more sense now?
 

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They don’t hate money, they are just shortsighted and stupid. And yes, the black community, that is why, and I’ll explain it slow this time:

1. you have a show that doesn’t have minority cast members so minorities generally don’t tune in
2. You add some to *~grow the brand~*
3. Give Alphabet some money to serve some targeted ads
4. Your audience has grown. You have a bigger money pie.

does it make more sense now?
Then why is anime so popular with the black community?
 

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Then why is anime so popular with the black community?
It used to be much more niche and shunned during the media’s “those wacky Japanese” phase in the 90’s up to 9/11 and dispossessed media tends to find resonance in marginalized communities because they like not feeling like a commodity.
 

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Didn't people say interracial porn never made a profit? We all know Youtube never made a profit, and that was before they started fucking with the algorithim.
It's not about money, it's about social engineering. You say shit like "Well it's about maximising proft" then why the fuck are we seeing black people in British historical shows? Only the most ardent SJW's would whine they arent, and the majority of people wouldn't care. Lots of cases of go woke go broke, again it's not working out. But it's not about money, if it were about money media would be entirely apolitical.

I've heard the theory that by the early-mid 2010's, the corporations that really control this country had more or less completed most of the major hyper-consolidation and the oligopoly was firmly set.

The worst of the Great Recession was over by around 2013 or so in most places (even if we never fully recovered from it) and I think that was the point where they realized they had enough money that it was now a secondary concern.

That could also explain the Woke Left's hateboner for anime and manga or most "weeb games" regardless of content or context, since these mostly American corporations don't want competition that not only can risk their profits but also is still largely entertainment for entertainment's sake as opposed to the pretentious wokepunk shit.

Say what you will about anime and manga, but it's generally a lot more enjoyable than capeshit, CalArts, or the majority of modern Hollywood TV and movies these days.

The former is fun enjoyable pablum that's up front and honest about being pablum while the latter is preachy pseudo-intellectual pablum that still insists it's somehow intellectual because all the good guys are blacks, dykes, and troons and all the bad guys are White and male.

You’re talking out of your ass, black people show up in historical drama because they have money now as a societal bloc and if there’s a black character then black viewers tune in at such and such percentage and also give the 8 media conglomerates who control what you see unbelievable cover to make whitebread stupid content without being called out. Look at the disparity between Disney’s mainstream cable TV garbage and their prestige projects.

It is always, always, always money. Everything else is a distant secondary concern.

source: I have professional experience in television and radio news and entertainment media.

Normally, I agree with you but with "Get Woke, Go Broke" becoming more prevalent in the past three years and shit only seeming to get more intense post-COVID (when it'd make more sense to drop the woke and make more money), I honestly don't know what to think.

Have the corporate elites decided they have enough money that the profits are secondary to message, or are they simply short-sighted and are convinced Twitter Woke Leftists are the majority of the world? I don't even know anymore

At this point, there's enough evidence for either explanation to be true based on what I can see and observe.
 

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I've heard the theory that by the early-mid 2010's, the corporations that really control this country had more or less completed most of the major hyper-consolidation and the oligopoly was firmly set.

The worst of the Great Recession was over by around 2013 or so in most places (even if we never fully recovered from it) and I think that was the point where they realized they had enough money that it was now a secondary concern.

That could also explain the Woke Left's hateboner for anime and manga or most "weeb games" regardless of content or context, since these mostly American corporations don't want competition that not only can risk their profits but also is still largely entertainment for entertainment's sake as opposed to the pretentious wokepunk shit.

Say what you will about anime and manga, but it's generally a lot more enjoyable than capeshit, CalArts, or the majority of modern Hollywood TV and movies these days.

The former is fun enjoyable pablum that's up front and honest about being pablum while the latter is preachy pseudo-intellectual pablum that still insists it's somehow intellectual because all the good guys are blacks, dykes, and troons and all the bad guys are White and male.



Normally, I agree with you but with "Get Woke, Go Broke" becoming more prevalent in the past three years and shit only seeming to get more intense post-COVID (when it'd make more sense to drop the woke and make more money), I honestly don't know what to think.

Have the corporate elites decided they have enough money that the profits are secondary to message, or are they simply short-sighted and are convinced Twitter Woke Leftists are the majority of the world? I don't even know anymore

At this point, there's enough evidence for either explanation to be true based on what I can see and observe.
Which gay interracial porn have you seen?
 

Syaoran Li

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Which gay interracial porn have you seen?

I don't seek out gay interracial porn. But that does remind me of something...

The weird trends in porn can once again be blamed on corporate hyper-consolidation. Mind Geek owns damn near all the major sites and there's probably someone high up in their corporate chain of command who's really into stepfamily incest and black guys and feels like he has to share it with everyone that goes on those sites.

The whole "interracial porn was never profitable" is probably a crock of bullshit. Even in the 80's and 90's, it was a thing but was a lot more niche.

TLDR - Corporatism and unchecked corporate consolidation is to blame for all of this. A small handful of mega-corporations own way too much and have too much power.
 

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I don't seek out gay interracial porn. But that does remind me of something...

The weird trends in porn can once again be blamed on corporate hyper-consolidation. Mind Geek owns damn near all the major sites and there's probably someone high up in their corporate chain of command who's really into stepfamily incest and black guys and feels like he has to share it with everyone that goes on those sites.

The whole "interracial porn was never profitable" is probably a crock of bullshit. Even in the 80's and 90's, it was a thing but was a lot more niche.

TLDR - Corporatism and unchecked corporate consolidation is to blame for all of this. A small handful of mega-corporations own way too much and have too much power.
I will say the fact that they're all racially based titles (pertaining to black men) is rather telling
 

Syaoran Li

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I will say the fact that they're all racially based titles (pertaining to black men) is rather telling

It is concerning, but it could also be a case of someone in the right place at Mind Geek really likes black dicks.

I'm pretty sure that's why all that creepy stepfamily pseudo-incest has become so prominent on those sites despite there not being any potential for a political or social agenda with that angle and being way more narrow of a niche than interracial.
 

Erika Furudo

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Say what you will about anime and manga, but it's generally a lot more enjoyable than capeshit, CalArts, or the majority of modern Hollywood TV and movies these days.

The former is fun enjoyable pablum that's up front and honest about being pablum while the latter is preachy pseudo-intellectual pablum that still insists it's somehow intellectual because all the good guys are blacks, dykes, and troons and all the bad guys are White and male.
Despite the name and pfp, I'm not a total weeb. But holy fuck anime and manga is so much better than the western equivalent. It's way more diverse (not in the cringe way) so you can enjoy some cutesy bullshit (like Cardcaptor Sakura) then you can go and read something like Berserk. If fantasy isn't your thing then you can enjoy sports manga (Slam Dunk), crime/thriller manga (Monster), manga about NEETs (Welcome to the NHK), etc. There is just so much variety. Where as western comics just seem to be edgy capeshit. Yes it's so dark and gritty the way men in tight spandex costumes fight eachother.

Japan also has a much better attitude towards "offensive" material. You don't like that manga that "objectifies women" instead of just canceling it, you just make your own manga where men are objectified, it's a great system. As a result you have a bunch of really creative, varied products and the entire medium isn't just a propaganda tool.

I think anime/manga is hated because it is one of those things where they can't actually control people, it must be so annoying to have all that power over people, then you see this one area and you can't do shit.

It is concerning, but it could also be a case of someone in the right place at Mind Geek really likes black dicks.

I'm pretty sure that's why all that creepy stepfamily pseudo-incest has become so prominent on those sites despite there not being any potential for a political or social agenda with that angle and being way more narrow of a niche than interracial.
One of the big factors in me quitting 3D porn was all the pseudo-incest being pushed. I wasn't even searching for that shit and I don't give a fuck what datamining they do, nothing in my search history was remotely related to it either.
 

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It's an entire wasteland and has been for years. It's only inevitable before they actually start rebooting every single insipid worthless Marvel movie with additional girl dicks to save our doomed heroes from wrongthink parasites. It rarely happens, but the reimaginings tend to be better than the reboots. One is changing the narrative and characters around and the other is just lazy faggots competing in wokeoffs. So many potentially great stories force fed unhealthy amounts of pandering. Don't do anything new or thought provoking lest you wish to be canceled and starved from the misshapen teet. I personally can't wait to see Animal Crackers with Groucho dating a strong black woman. Nothing is sacred to these vermin, unfortunately. Despite the showrunners being incapable halfwits, I could see that Civil War show on HBO getting canned simply because saying nigger on television is not okay. Slaves were treated nice by their white masters, didn't you know? Guarantee there'd have been some cuckold scenes to entice the degenerates, but I digress. Hollywood and the like do not value creativity or imagination in any form. The gems are out there but mostly hidden by pyrite and all of it is caked in feces. You can grow up and make millions watch your fetishes! Be a screenwriter today. The only solution is something so offensive and problematic that the blue haired monstrosities can't possible figure out what to complain about first. Too bad the majority are creatively castrated.
 

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Everywhere I look, all I see is LGBTQ this and black that, and everything in between or prior is also severely bland. Nobody has groundbreaking ideas anymore, the last good movie I saw was Joker and I can't think of anything before that except for maybe Godzilla. Anything science fiction is either tedious or childish (West World, Rick and Morty, ect). Almost everything I see on TV feels exceptionally out of pocket and Young Sheldon is the only exception I can find. Everything else is just Cali-trash like Birds of Prey or one of a billion cop dramas.

Why must it be this way?
You should watch some French movies like The Intouchables or Amélie. I'd also recommend Red, White, and Blue. They're fresh and unique masterpieces.
 

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A lot of people are pointing to "Save The Cat", and perhaps that has had a dire effect on American films but I question how it could hold such humongous influence on an industry that's filled with tons of creative types who I doubt are basing their work on a book made by the dude who wrote "Stop or My Mom Will Shoot" and "Blank Check."

I would argue that two culprits at hand are two sources that Hollywood without a doubt obsesses over.; Rotten Tomatoes and "CinemaScore."

I don't think I need to explain to anyone what is Rotten Tomatoes is. You load it up and you'd see what new movies came out and how good they are based on the Tomatometer. The Tomatometer is misleading garbage because it rates the film based on the percentage of critics who give it a positive or negative review. It's only a worthwhile source in that you'll know likely that a movie that's 96% fresh is unlikely to do anything that will make you say the movie is lousy. But that system doesn't tell you how much the critics either loved or hated the movie, as a result the average crowd pleaser films are rewarded. The biggest indictment against the Tomatometer is that Black Panther holds the No. 1 spot of RT's Top 100 movies. Black Panther is one of the more memorable films of the Marvel Capeshit factory but I don't think any reasonable human being would argue that it's that good of a film. It would be way better for everyone if Metacritic was the defacto site to see a consensus on movies. But only gamers really care about Metacritic.

Cinemascore is a very important market research firm, it holds early screenings and then asks the audience to rate the films. They then give Hollywood apparently accurate estimations on how the films will do in the box office. I can't blame Hollywood for wanting to know in advance how it should spend its money. But I worry that like RT this service is further encouraging Hollywood to focus more on crowd pleaser movies rather than try their hand on films that simply won't please everyone. One of my favorite movies of the prior decade is 2017's Uncut Gems. It received an underwhelming C+ rating on CinemaScore. I loved the movie because I think it's one of the most accurate depictions of a degenerate gambler. SPOILING the following because I urge everyone who thinks all new movies are "bland" to just watch this film and not be biased by my opinions. I think Adam Sandler was excellent as he played a total shitbag of a human who I couldn't help but root for. It was awesome on a technical level and it drew a wide array of emotions from me as I watched it. At times I was laughing, at other times I was dreading the choices made by Sandler's character, and the ending which I felt was coming just felt like an incredible punch in the gut but it left me utterly satisfied as it was the only ending that could make sense. It was just a great film for my tastes. I have friends who I highly recommended it to who didn't enjoy it, so CinemaScore isn't wrong but at the same time it sucks that Hollywood is discouraged from making films that can be divisive. Speaking of divisive as much as I hate Rian Johnson's The Last Jedi I actually respect the guy for having the balls to make a movie that wouldn't please every Star Wars fan, shit I walked out of that movie disgusted by what I saw but I remember that experience more than watching the other sequel movies so that says something.

At the end of the day I sincerely wonder if the heart of the problem is that the modern population suffers from severe ADD. Prior generations used to read literature for fun, sure there were stupid flicks like "Francis The Talking Mule" but there were also geniuses like Orson Welles and Billy Wilder who made brilliant works that will go over people's heads unless they pay attention. I think movies today are by and large made for audiences to watch while they play with their phones or fuck around with their friends. Modern entertainment with a few exceptions is straight up background noise. And that's why it's bland, partly because our lives have become more chaotic thanks to technology.
 
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Most Hollywood productions have “bent the knee” to foreign influence and international markets to show how worldly they are, while forgetting about the classic touch of American cinema from decades past.

When you have people trying to erase Gone With The Wind and force all Hollywood studios to sign forced ”diversity” projects that do nothing but add a lack of diversity into telling stories, you end up with not just loss of money, but also loss of integrity in telling stories.
 
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