This is my theory exactly.The last piece of the puzzle is millenial/zoomer education. Millenials and Zoomers have come into contact with activities that used to be dilettante pleasures for the elite, particularly philosophy, and want to live their lives off it instead of having a shitty unfulfilling job. Having an university degree isn't a privilege anymore, and not having one is a disgrace. What this means is that we have a surplus of people that envisioned their lives as part of the elite, but have to cope with the fact that they will have to spend the rest of their lives working an alienating job. Take that, the current crisis, and you'll see how it is no surprise for communism to become popular.
Do you think back in the day people were meeting up in an actual forum and asking why peeps actually search for a fountain of youth?Asking why people support socialism is a bit like asking why people in past centuries went searching for the Fountain of Youth. The answer is very straightforward: the idea that workers should own the means of production is clearly an attractive idea, just as never aging is an attractive idea. That past attempts to reach such goals have failed doesn't make the goals themselves any less attractive.
I had to read Marx as an entire subject for a whole semester to graduate. I can't even say much about him other than I could get what his beef was back then because of how Bongland was and how we didn't have shit like workers comp and OSHA compliances and the like for workers. That said aside from reading the Manifesto, everything else felt like a slog like other books because I just wanted to get to the point. I can only imagine that he'd be spinning in his grave simply in seeing what his ideology managed to evolve into and with seeing how it all played out, down to tankies thinking the USSR did no wrong and anything the USSR did is either justified or a complete gay op from the CIA.I think SOME people (at least younger ones) when they think of "socialism" don't really associate it with communism or Marxism. They hear the word, and think of it more of like, social security, Medicare/Medicaid, and various government programs to help those in need. I think that's what people mean by "social democracy/democratic socialism". They're not actual "socialist-socialists", just ignorant.
OR, it could be just a case of language evolving. That happens too. Like the word "liberal", for example. What people called "liberals" in the past we now call "libertarians". Maybe that's what it is? I'm guessing someone who studied linguistics would know better.
As for those who call themselves communists, they're fucking idiots, plus many of them didn't grow up during the Cold War -- to them it's an event that happened "Ago", and you had the whole Red Scare bullshit, McCarthyism, etc. Nowadays, most communist countries aren't really the BIG THREAT that the Soviets were. China's fucked up, but it's not the same. Also, Vietnam had a lot to do with it as well -- let's face it our government DID fuck things up when it come to "fighting communism". We certainly weren't innocent, at least when it came to foreign policy. (And this isn't a "liberal vs. conservative", since both sides were doing it)
But for the most part, once again, it's ignorance. And they haven't actually LIVED in a communist country, or known anyone who has.
And for those who do know all of this, but still consider themselves socialists and/or communists? Well, there are neo-Nazis around, what's so weird about neo-commies? People are assholes.
(BTW, anyone here actually read Marx? Dude was a total crackpot, but as one of my professors said, his solution was fucked up, but he did indentify the problem correctly, at least for that particular time period)
I don't know, but the point here is that the goal of finding a Fountain of Youth was clearly very attractive to the people who pursued it, which is why they did, no matter how many times prior attempts had failed, nor how unrealistic it may seem in retrospect. Apply the same logic to socialism, and you will understand why the idea is still compelling to a lot of people.Do you think back in the day people were meeting up in an actual forum and asking why peeps actually search for a fountain of youth?
"Socialism" isn't the same as "taxes for public things". It's primarily about wealth redistribution from the bourgeois to the proletariat.That depends on what socialist ideas they support.
For example, when people say that they're Christians, they usually don't mean that they condone the parts when Jesus tells slaves how to behave themselves in relation to their masters.
Think about this:
Public roads are socialist. The government takes money fro all of us and then redistributes it in the form of roads which we can all use for free.
Imagine if corporations owned the roads and you had to buy monthly passes to use them, different passes for different roads owned by different companies. It would be a nightmare, no working class person could afford them.
Public roads need to be a thing for a modern society to function.
Tax funded police and firefighters are also socialist.
You need to ask further questions when someone say that they're socialist.
The only people more retarded than American capitalists are Chinese communists, and the only ones who are more retarded than either one of them are Americans who simp for China and wish they were ChiComs.Because American capitalists are absolutely retarded and borderline anarcho-capitalists and one of Newton's laws states that for every force there's an equal and opposite force.
Nordic countries areStability. Guaranteed work. Extremely strong government safety nets meaning if you get supremely fucked in life, you won't die in the streets. Here in the nordics we're halfway there, almost everyone are middle class, government guarantees you (shitty)housing and a livable amount of money so you don't starve, education is free. Homelessness is non-existent.
This was for a class in political philosophy, and we were warned in advance how tiring Marx would be to read. We also read Plato and Aristotle (duh), Adam Smith, John Stuart Mill, John Locke, etc. The usual.I had to read Marx as an entire subject for a whole semester to graduate. I can't even say much about him other than I could get what his beef was back then because of how Bongland was and how we didn't have shit like workers comp and OSHA compliances and the like for workers. That said aside from reading the Manifesto, everything else felt like a slog like other books because I just wanted to get to the point. I can only imagine that he'd be spinning in his grave simply in seeing what his ideology managed to evolve into and with seeing how it all played out, down to tankies thinking the USSR did no wrong and anything the USSR did is either justified or a complete gay op from the CIA.