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Sister services, email, and search will continue to be negatively effected by the attacks. I made a thread to talk about it, if you're into networking.
Not putting myself in a box, but if you say one or the other I would be left. I do not agree with all left ideals though, I work in human services where left ideals tend to lean more to helping my clients which is part of why I often vote this way. Really though, why be cattle and be pushed into having to choose without knowing exact stances? Going in solid blue or solid red is just being blind.
You might be surprised at how much company you actually have out there. Leftos drove out the entire working class when they got blacked and also welcomed herds of Salvadoran gangsters into the construction industry. And there are plenty of fags who won't step foot in the ghetto because they know damn well where the real risk of hate beatings is most likely.
If there's a single thing i agree with the left on, it's that suburbs are cancer, specially american style ones
I don't agree with the modern-day left and their divisive identity politics, but I lean left because I don't agree with how the right handles everything and their views. While I believe in controlled immigration and national identity, I'm pro-choice, gun control, for taxes and pro-individualist.
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Fairytales are fun, biggit
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So I can hit the blacks with my car without having to drive on the sidewalk
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Actually, something non-meme, and more risque i agree with the left on:
The family unit is overrated. We shouldn't entirely erase it marxist conspiracy style, But no one should have any obligation to live by the rules of a shitty household and be tied to an abusive family for years just for being your family, like some sort of coin toss where it is determined from birth whether you're gonna have a shitty time growing up or not. Specially since everyone is eventually supposed to leave their family behind for some time to learn how to integrate into the outer world anyways. Any family that hinders this opportunity should be considered dysfunctional.
And no, i also don't mean replacing the nuclear family with the extended family either. If anything that kind only amplifies issues like privacy, housing, or having shitty relatives ten times more.
The family unit is overrated. We shouldn't entirely erase it marxist conspiracy style, But no one should have any obligation to live by the rules of a shitty household and be tied to an abusive family for years just for being your family, like some sort of coin toss where it is determined from birth whether you're gonna have a shitty time growing up or not. Specially since everyone is eventually supposed to leave their family behind for some time to learn how to integrate into the outer world anyways. Any family that hinders this opportunity should be considered dysfunctional.
And no, i also don't mean replacing the nuclear family with the extended family either. If anything that kind only amplifies issues like privacy, housing, or having shitty relatives ten times more.
I don’t even know which political direction any of my values lean anymore. I’m a centrist because being nice to people is ideally both political directions
I was quite left-wing throughout much of the 2000s. I didn't like the wars. I thought they were pointless. What the hell did Iraq and Afghanistan have to do with Osama Bin Laden? Nothing. Nothing at all. Our leaders threw trillions of dollars down the drain and squandered what little goodwill America had left on the world stage. We went from being respected to being despised, and we paid handsomely for the privilege. Meanwhile, our infrastructure is visibly decaying and our once-great cities are being overtaken by drug abuse, homelessness, and third-world poverty. Lording over this mess is a class of Rentier Capitalists who contribute absolutely nothing to society of any value whatsoever. They have monetized human behavior by tracking every little thing we do, online and off, and selling targeted advertisements at us. They sell us the same sweatshop-made gadgets year in, year out. The richest people on Wall Street profit immensely off of paper-shuffling exercises that border on fraud, and every time their gambling creates and then collapses a bubble and causes a depression, people lose their jobs, and some portion of those people who lose their jobs end up eating the barrel of a gun, slitting their wrists in a bathtub, or ODing on their couch. There are people from my generation who have been working full-time jobs for over a decade, and home ownership completely evades their grasp. Their futures have been strangled in the crib. Creeping censorship and COINTELPRO tactics are used to suppress dissent and hound people into an early grave if they question any of this.
I woke up one day, and none of these things mattered to the Left anymore. After being completely overtaken by identity politics, they now follow astroturfed movements openly sponsored by hundreds of big-name corporations. They parrot ideas fed to them by DC think tanks and other special interests that receive millions of dollars from fake philanthropists looking to exert political power with their filthy money. They sit around in a Starbucks, man bun and cashmere sweater and MacBook and all, congratulating each other for being revolutionaries, when at ten paces, you can't even tell any of 'em apart. They care more about the representation of minorities in novels, comic books, and TV shows than they do about average people being able to make ends meet.
The psychopaths at the helm of our society with undeserved money and power have always been able to twist things so that they keep winning and the rest of us keep losing. Divide et impera. A working class split against itself by a media that amplifies frivolities until they become political flashpoints can never develop enough concentrated power to advocate for our interests. When we rise up together on matters of economic class, the powers-that-be viciously divide us by race, by gender, by sexuality, knowing full well that class issues will be swept under the rug as a result.
I woke up one day, and none of these things mattered to the Left anymore. After being completely overtaken by identity politics, they now follow astroturfed movements openly sponsored by hundreds of big-name corporations. They parrot ideas fed to them by DC think tanks and other special interests that receive millions of dollars from fake philanthropists looking to exert political power with their filthy money. They sit around in a Starbucks, man bun and cashmere sweater and MacBook and all, congratulating each other for being revolutionaries, when at ten paces, you can't even tell any of 'em apart. They care more about the representation of minorities in novels, comic books, and TV shows than they do about average people being able to make ends meet.
The psychopaths at the helm of our society with undeserved money and power have always been able to twist things so that they keep winning and the rest of us keep losing. Divide et impera. A working class split against itself by a media that amplifies frivolities until they become political flashpoints can never develop enough concentrated power to advocate for our interests. When we rise up together on matters of economic class, the powers-that-be viciously divide us by race, by gender, by sexuality, knowing full well that class issues will be swept under the rug as a result.
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Drain Trodger: I too used to be a screaming liberal. Now, I'm just screaming at everyone. I realized back in 2008, just after St. Obummer was elected that all the yelling and screaming in the streets for the past 50 years has accomplished... nothing.
What is even sadder today about every single liberal/Democrat today is that they still think screaming, shouting and name calling is going to help better the world.
What is even sadder today about every single liberal/Democrat today is that they still think screaming, shouting and name calling is going to help better the world.
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I recline to the left to help with digestion
Conservatism is the new counterculture. The right has no power anymore.
You can see that? well one of my legs is a tiny bit shorter...
Cuz my right leg is taller
SouthernBitchBob
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I did, until I figured out they were just as psycho as the religious moonbats on the right. They were just better at hiding it before they took the metaphorical throne(s).
I don't currently align with any political party 100% in burgerland, but the dems get my vote most of the time and various further-left candidates and groups get it some of the time. Like in 2016 I wrote in Bernie because Hillary is gross. But here's a stab at where I am at:
I think humans are evil little monkeys. Our natural instincts are base and selfish.
The right wing sells this vision of a country where every man is a king on his own land and every businessman is this righteous provider of jobs and goods. If humans were all good and wise, this would be great. But this way of thinking leads to degraded land, horrible neighbors, no worker protections, and so forth.
And my skepticism extends to shit like the right-wing antipathy towards social services and public school. I don't want to live next to a pack of feral kids who are hungry and ignorant. I don't want a shantytown in my neighborhood.
I'm also deeply distrustful of the MIC, and the republicans insisting that we need to dump buckets of money into this enormous military while not being able to afford shit like basic healthcare for everyone is ridiculous. (I know the dems are just as bad about the MIC, but they at least pretend to be better.)
I look at the end game of republican thinking and it seems like a Latin American shithole where rich people live either behind walls or on grand country estates while everyone who isn't rich lives in a dump and fights over crumbs.
I have a long list of shit I don't like about the democrats. They give too many people the benefit of the doubt and there are too many institutions and ideologies that they are overly invested in protecting. But there are only a couple issues that I really have a parting of the ways with them over, troon shit being one.
Ultimately, we need to build a society that makes it easy for people to make good choices and be good citizens. I think the US, for the most part, is pretty good at threading the needle between personal freedom and government regulation and redistribution. But I think a lot of the history of how we got where we are today is a history of left-wing ideas prevailing against right-wing opposition.
I hope this is what the OP is looking for.
I think humans are evil little monkeys. Our natural instincts are base and selfish.
The right wing sells this vision of a country where every man is a king on his own land and every businessman is this righteous provider of jobs and goods. If humans were all good and wise, this would be great. But this way of thinking leads to degraded land, horrible neighbors, no worker protections, and so forth.
And my skepticism extends to shit like the right-wing antipathy towards social services and public school. I don't want to live next to a pack of feral kids who are hungry and ignorant. I don't want a shantytown in my neighborhood.
I'm also deeply distrustful of the MIC, and the republicans insisting that we need to dump buckets of money into this enormous military while not being able to afford shit like basic healthcare for everyone is ridiculous. (I know the dems are just as bad about the MIC, but they at least pretend to be better.)
I look at the end game of republican thinking and it seems like a Latin American shithole where rich people live either behind walls or on grand country estates while everyone who isn't rich lives in a dump and fights over crumbs.
I have a long list of shit I don't like about the democrats. They give too many people the benefit of the doubt and there are too many institutions and ideologies that they are overly invested in protecting. But there are only a couple issues that I really have a parting of the ways with them over, troon shit being one.
Ultimately, we need to build a society that makes it easy for people to make good choices and be good citizens. I think the US, for the most part, is pretty good at threading the needle between personal freedom and government regulation and redistribution. But I think a lot of the history of how we got where we are today is a history of left-wing ideas prevailing against right-wing opposition.
I hope this is what the OP is looking for.
