Why does the EU have such a hard on for Africa? -

KifflomKween

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I was listening to several presentations from several ambassadors of the EU online as part of a class. At first it revolved around the usual environment stuff and then COVID, sprinkled with mentions of how x and y works in this or that African country. It became inceasingly about African countries and how we need to help them with their cyber security and economy and whatever.
Then another presentation started that was exclusively about African countries. At this point I was so bored and annoyed I left.


Why? And why it is always these progressive feminists and empowered women (these ambassadors except 1 were all women) that love these shithole countries so much even though they treat women like shit?
One time I browsed a NatGeo mag on womens rights around the world and it was pretty much all about african ans islamic countries and how matriarchal societies existed there and women are so free and empowered. Maybe a small part was about western countries, almost like a sidenote. What the fuck?
 

Pointless Pedant

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It's for strategic reasons dating back to the cold war, but this site is really not suited to actual political discussion so I won't bother. Just read this article on Françafrique and you'll see.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Françafrique

In international relations, Françafrique (French pronunciation: [fʁɑ̃safʁik]) is France’s sphere of influence (or pré carré in French, meaning backyard) over former French and Belgian colonies in sub-Saharan Africa.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8] The term was derived from the expression France-Afrique, which was used by the first President of Ivory Coast, Félix Houphouët-Boigny, in 1955 to describe his country's close ties with France.[1] It was later renamed Françafrique by François-Xavier Verschave in 1998 to criticise the alleged corrupt and clandestine activities of various Franco-African political, economic and military networks.[1]

Following the accession to independence of its African colonies beginning in 1959,[9] France continued to maintain a sphere of influence over the new countries, which was critical to then President Charles de Gaulle's vision of France as a global power (or grandeur in French) and as a bulwark to British and American influence in a post-colonial world.[3] The United States supported France's continuing presence in Africa to prevent the region from falling under Soviet influence during the Cold War.[3] France kept close political, economic, military and cultural ties with its former African colonies that were multi-layered, involving institutional, semi-institutional and informal levels.[1][3]

Françafrique has been characterised by several features that emerged during the Cold War, the first of which was the African cell, a group that comprised the French President and his close advisors who made policy decisions on Africa, often in close collaboration with powerful business networks and the French secret service.[1] Another feature was the franc zone, a currency union that pegged the currencies of most francophone African countries to the French franc.[1][3] Françafrique was also based, in large part, on the concept of coopération, which was implemented through a series of cooperation accords that allowed France to establish close political, economic, military and cultural ties with its former African colonies.[3] France also saw itself as a guarantor of stability in the region and therefore adopted an interventionist policy in Africa, resulting in military interventions that averaged once a year from 1960 to the mid-1990s.[3][10] Finally, a central feature of Françafrique were the personal networks that underpinned the informal, family-like relationships between French and African leaders. These networks often lacked oversight and scrutinity, which led to corruption and state racketeering.[1][3]

After the Cold War, the Françafrique regime has weakened over the years due to France's budgetary constraints, greater public scrutiny at home, the deaths of pivotal Françafrique actors (Foccart, Mitterrand, Pasqua and members of Elf) and the integration of France into the European Union.[1][3] Economic liberalisation, high indebtedness and political instability of the former African colonies have reduced their political and economic attractiveness, leading France to adopt a more pragmatic and hard-nose approach to its African relations.[1][3]
 

DamageJoy

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On one hand they want to get the resources and markets from the continent and the big brain "western" governments outsourced baby creation to the third word to get their infinite consumers who will buy more stuff and take out more credit to keep the economy going. On the other hand they are simply globalists who want to be the entire world to be the same soyboy consumer, full of debt and low of self determination.
 

Pixy

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Given how successful the Australian experiment was, they want to try the inverse.

It's not just Africa. They sorta idolise being enslaved and colonised by the Romans, too. With the Italian peninsula it makes sense, but its weird when other countries do it, like all those regimes in the 20th Century who went about evoking the memory of Imperial Rome.
 

Pointless Pedant

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Because European colonization fucked up Africa really bad and now they're trying to help undo the damage
If you read the Françafrique article you'd see that it's actually a continuation of colonial policies after independence; a lot of the involvement came in the forms of military operations and even coups. I don't expect people here to read anything about geopolitics though.
 

TheNotoriousN.I.G.

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And China didn't cope with all that guilt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVQtZiqJf9U
Because European colonization fucked up Africa really bad and now they're trying to help undo the damage
Areas that were colonised the most extensively have the best economic and social metrics today. South African blacks even under apartheid had superior living standards to other blacks in sub-Saharan Africa except maybe in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe.
 

Super-Chevy454

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVQtZiqJf9U

Areas that were colonised the most extensively have the best economic and social metrics today. South African blacks even under apartheid had superior living standards to other blacks in sub-Saharan Africa except maybe in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe.

Add also then the coloured, people of mixed race, in South Africa, are being forgotted by the ANC. https://ewn.co.za/2019/04/26/some-in-coloured-community-nostalgic-for-apartheid

There's a older video where a black wish for apartheid to return. That mean how the ANC had menaged to screw South Africa.
 

haurchefant

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The EU is obsessed with Africa because of its resources, easily exploited populations, and because there is still value in pursing colonialist policies even if they aren't called those anymore. It's greed pure and simple. I think there's also a belief, no matter how unspoken, that if whites simply give black people enough "something" - rights, or money, or vaccinations, or whatever - that they will eventually pull their pants up and start acting like civilized people. The colonizers also believed this to a certain degree, that's the entire idea behind The White Man's Burden. That they can be civilized eventually if you just give them enough charity. Honestly the idea is incredibly socialist, like the EU can expand their welfare net to capture an entire continent. As if you can just hand people money and don't demand that they adapt and get better and learn how generational wealth building works. But we all know where that's headed so you know, whatever.

But the Chinaman in the Empire of Dust clip is right. The countries in Africa have often gone backwards, not forward, and its rare cases where they learned from their mistakes and improved instead. (I don't want to say "none of them learned" because I've heard that at least a handful of nations have figured out that capitalism is the way forward and are embracing it.)

The problem is that Africa cannot be ignored. It's just resulted in China moving in because they really want all of those natural resources that the Africans are sitting on and doing jackshit with.
 

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