Will the future resemble the Book of Revelations? -

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Dom Cruise

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Alright, I'm going to get pretty weird on you guys, but I feel like there's something that needs to be said.

Is the future going to resemble the Book of Revelations from the Bible? Putting aside the argument over whether anything in the Bible is literally real or not, what haunts me is how it nevertheless so perfectly seems to be a metaphor for the human condition, just think of the whole idea of Angels and Demons, God and Satan, so perfectly representing the good and evil sides of mankind, think of that metaphor of an "Angel and Devil" on your shoulder when you're faced with a moral decision.

And similarly when I look at the Book of Revelations I see a road map for what may very be the future.

Basically my idea is this, what if the Antichrist is not a man or at least not just a man, but a system, it's the globalist, New World Order and the systems of absolute control they are trying to build, it's social media, it's the NSA, it's rfid chips, it's the SJW culture of there is only one way to think on every issue.

When I look at SJWs I see people who would absolutely shove people's heads into guillotines, I see people who would absolutely get on their knees and worship some figure/image if Twitter told them to, I see what life might be like under the Antichrist system.

And as this system grows and gains more and more control, Christians around the world may be the number 1 group fighting against it.

Whether you're a Christian or believe in God or not, I'd like to entertain the idea that a scenario that would weirdly resemble Revelations is a very real possibility, what if the NWO is real? And what if they really do try to take over the world and take away everyone's free will? Would that not lead to some large scale conflict?

There was a time in which I would have thought this was all crazy, I used to think conspiracy theory type stuff was crazy, but the more time goes on, the less crazy it all seems.
 

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5/10 at best for using the plural "Revelations" instead of the definitive "Revelation," i.e. "Apocalypse of [i.e. ἀποκάλυψις, unveiling of revelations by]" St. John", which makes me curious if the author has actually read the thing other than by pop-cultural osmosis.

The answer is yes though, sort of. The thing is imagistic in the extreme. There are two major adversaries, the commercialistic and idolatrous harlot and the imperialistic and pseudo-religious beast. Both Jewish and Roman elements seem to be present in both although in greater Biblical context the former is more Jewish and the latter more Gentile.

The histories of both are intertwined, as are the events of A.D. 70, the fall of the Roman empire, and some possible future. Literal interpretation is the realm of the incurably autistic and insufferably Protestant. What it does do vividly, however, is underscore some timeless spiritual realities about church, state, true and false spirituality, the exaltedness of Christ, the wickedness of the devil, and the ultimate triumph of God despite the very best efforts of many putative believers.

Both adversaries obviously have been problems since early days and still are, and some of the promised successes depicted inside have yet to pass while others have obvious spiritual fulfillment. That's why I lean towards a partial-preterist exegesis.
 

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Jesus answered, “See to it that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming "i am the Christ.
and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. These things must happen, but the end is still to come."

Yes there will be many who play the role of the false prophet and of course there will be a system that supports them and at the same time suppresses information to the extent that you hear of war only in whisper.
The thing that bothers me still about Christianity is it goes out so miserably. "lol sorry guys the last generation has to live through the closest thing to hell I could think of. Mad? Pray about it and you'll see that this is for the best." At least at ragnarok you get one last grasp at glory. We Christians just have to shrug and pray it doesn't happen in our lifetimes.
 

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Those people in Israel who called Trump 'the King of Israel' are going to be pretty pissed off if by doing so they've accidentally fulfilled prophesy and brought on the apocalypse.


If you see a pale rider on a pale horse, best run it over with your car, like our Lord and Savior Terry Davis used to do with glow in the dark types.
 
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Syaoran Li

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I'm actually kind of with @Dom Cruise on this one for the most part.

While I still think that SJW's will inevitably die out like the hippies and Moral Majority before them (and eventually end up surpassed by something worse like @CheezzyMach said) there are a lot of disturbing parallels between Current Year and the Book of Revelation with the expanded surveillance state, the push for a cashless society, the extreme contempt for anything remotely seen as Christian, and the masses bowing in reverence towards whatever image the False Prophet (social media) and the Beast (global corporations) tell them to follow.

Hell, we've gotten to the point where the modern Left are intentionally acting like villains in a Chick Tract, especially the Greta Thunberg/Extinction Rebellion types.

It's probably going to die out within the next decade, but I could definitely see how someone could believe we're heading towards the End Times in Current Year.
 
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UnclePhil

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I try to be optimistic and say the human race learns from its worst mistakes. We've had a few thousand years to see what patterns lead to the worst atrocities. We also have millennia old myths and oral traditions that teach basic truths: absolute power corrupts, the abyss gazes back, that sort of thing.

The problem, of course, is that we tend to forget the lessons of history after a while, and it repeats itself. We also ignore what mythology teaches us because of edgelording and lol stupid people believing in gods!

So what happens is the world breaks down, we build a better one, and then we fuck it up in some other way. We tear it apart, we build a better one, we fuck that one up. What I hope is that eventually we will have learned all the ways we can fuck it up, and thus the world stays balanced from thereon.

Now, Revelation and SJWs. I recall from my young Christian days the Bible mentioning a world covered end to end with wanton sin and depravity right before the Last Days. That certainly seems to be the case with these non-binary chopped up genital salad mix degenerates. If you feel it, you are it! If it has a hole, fuck it; everything is a social construct! Yeah, but the thing is Social Justice is on shaky ground. We already see people being alienated by the world the craziest are trying to build. A lot of them are going to grow up with a lot of regrets: that they were complete assholes to people who weren't bothering them, or they are sterile/internally damaged because of the hormone pills. If they are able to have children, fingers crossed, they will try to teach them a better way.

Unfortunately, again, some of those '60s Free Love hippie commies didn't learn shit or face any consequences. They became college professors.
 

Syaoran Li

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I hope so as being a white straight male, with right wing political beliefs I should magically be raptured, but the rest of you guys can use my pool during the rapture

Rapture's not in the Book of Revelation.

It's heavily debated on whether or not it's Biblical at all and only Evangelical Protestants seriously consider it (even there, it's a controversial topic) but the passages that are cited whenever the Rapture is discussed are in Thessalonians.

Bible sperging aside, I don't think we're living in the End Times and I'm sure this will eventually cycle out of the culture.

At the same time, the latter half of the 2010's is probably the closest that humanity's ever gotten to the conditions described in the Book of Revelation...or Brave New World, for that matter.
 

dirtydeanna96

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Revelation.
Meaning apocalypse, or unveiling or revealing.

The name of the book is not Revelations.
Is is Revelation.
It is full of allusion to the Ot prophets and the Torah. The book wasn't meant for us, but for Christian believers at the time. Honestly, most Christians haven't studied OT enough to start to understand the imagery used

Revelation is not about the future, but about Christian persecution under Rome.
 
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Spooky Bones

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Anyone can 'translate' Yeshua's Book ( the New Testament ) any way they so choose.
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One preacher, I remember hearing, was making an argument that "locust" where where a metaphor for helicopters ...
I Pet i, 20. This is why exegesis that occurs outside of an organized and historically contiguous church will invariably lead to heresy. There's a good reason why this is incorrectly translated in the Evangelical NIV; their whole system, not to say source of income, rather falls apart if this is understood, especially given that the Bible doesn't define what the Bible actually consists of, which in and of itself requires a Church to provide a canon (why shouldn't they revere the Book of Jubilees or Enoch, except for the heritage of Church history? Where was the church before 1500? Why replace one pope with 30,000?)
 
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