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- Feb 19, 2017
I'd more or less agree that Corbyn lost because he was a terrible party leader, borderline communist, and Brexit flip flopper rather than anything to do with culture war issues. This site puts way too much stress on those relative to the average voter, and I mean way too much.
Don't bring Japan into this, either. Abe had previously been prime minister in the 2000s and is the grandson of former LDP prime minister and extremely influential economist and war criminal Kishi Nobusuke. He's as establishment as can be. The establishment in Japan and South Korea is just very different to what it is in America.
A description of Kishi's career would derail this thread, but aside from his love of rape he ran Manchuria as a giant concentration camp for rapid industrialisation in the 1930s, and his corporatist economic planning went on to influence Pak Chung-hee and the South Korean economic miracle under the cold war military dictatorship. His post war prime ministership was brief and ended when he was ousted by student protests after he tried to force through a treaty with America over the objections of parliament before a planned visit by Eisenhower.
Before you jump my ass, I totally agree Abe is very much an establishment leader.
I'm bringing up Japan mainly because the Japanese establishment is very different from the establishment in the West. For corporatists in the West who are closely in bed with China, the Japanese establishment is seen as part of the problem. There's a LOT of animosity between China and Japan for obvious reasons
I honestly think a lot of the extreme autistic hateboner for anime, manga, and Japanese video games by the Woke Left is the result of corporate astroturfing and a very minor but very visible symptom of something else that's actually important.
Like, I get you're one of those "genre media is not valid" types who doesn't like anime but what I'm talking about goes beyond the normal (and completely understandable) disdain for weebs and into an autistic level of hatred for a lot of the Woke Twitter types, most of whom are no better than the weebs and are usually worse, except their fandom of choice happens to be stuff like Marvel/DC capeshit, Harry Potter (before Rowling offended the troons too many times) or woke Tumblr/"CalArts" cartoons like She-Ra and Steven Universe or things like punk culture and "cottagecore" or other Tumblr aesthetics.
I get that the anime fandom is a lot smaller in the UK than it is in the US though, and as always, I'm mainly going by an American perspective since that's what I know and observe here.
Companies like Disney don't want the unneeded competition whose establishment is entirely different and is not as affected to the conditions of the American establishment, and chances are that China's probably in with this as a small component of a wider push against Japan.
The anime and pop culture shit is unimportant in the grand scheme of things, but it's one symptom out of many that's really visible in the social media sphere so it's easy to cite. The corporate establishment in Japan is not conducive to the corporate establishment in America, Europe, and especially China.
We see a similar thing with a lot of the fearmongering over Russia, and the most visible symptom of that is a lot more important to the bigger picture, the "Russian collusion" narrative.
The Russian establishment is also not conducive to the EU or China and is a direct threat to both, plus there's a lot of neocons and neolibs here in the states who still have a Cold War mindset due to being literal Boomers (and some of the Early Gen X'ers like Obama) and view Russia as an enemy no matter what.
Granted, Putin is an authoritarian brute and a geopolitical wildcard but he's also one of the first nationalistic populist world leaders of the post-Cold War era to really gain a lot of prominence.
Really, I think a lot of the scorn over the establishments in Japan and Russia is rooted in the same disdain for popular nationalist movements in the West. It's global corporatists and their ChiCom allies not wanting any genuine threats or competition. They want to protect their own wealth and power and squash anyone who'd stand in the way of more wealth and influence.
Plus, with China there's the historic animosity the Chinese have with Japan and Russia.