While you are alone in your room wearing your straightjacket, they'll check on you every 10 minutes to see if you're still wearing your mask
Will the stigma of therapy and medication ever go away? - don't be scared to seek help
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While you are alone in your room wearing your straightjacket, they'll check on you every 10 minutes to see if you're still wearing your mask
Cheerlead-in-Chief
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In my case, no straitjacket
But an isolation room so they can threaten you with it while you're there 24 hours.
Nice people on this site can seek help for all I care, but libtards and people that aren't against blacks can die.
Not really a MATI, even though it sounds like that. It's just the best for society that blacks doesn't exist, and we can't have any supporters of them.
Not really a MATI, even though it sounds like that. It's just the best for society that blacks doesn't exist, and we can't have any supporters of them.
MarvinTheParanoidAndroid
This will all end in tears, I just know it.
True & Honest Fan
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Takes me back to the 90's where any kid you didn't like had ADHD and shoving pills in their mouth was considered a good way to shut them up.
I'm someone who studied psychology, comunication and sociology and my opinion (An educated one) is that therapy is not for everyone.
You have to had a traumatic experience or something in your life to warrant therapy. Otherwise it will only exacerbate mundane things in your life seen in negative form due to lack of actual focus on the therapy.
I think that the west tries to normalize therapy and mental illness when it shouldn't. Mental illness should continue to be something bad to avoid, not a trait or a quirk of people to pretend to be interesting.
You have to had a traumatic experience or something in your life to warrant therapy. Otherwise it will only exacerbate mundane things in your life seen in negative form due to lack of actual focus on the therapy.
I think that the west tries to normalize therapy and mental illness when it shouldn't. Mental illness should continue to be something bad to avoid, not a trait or a quirk of people to pretend to be interesting.
There is an analogy to a fat person in a gym, should we mock those who admit their mistakes and are attempting to correct them? I personally would never mock a fat person who admitted their problem cannot continue without correction and took the difficult road back to normalcy, likewise I think there is absolutely no cause for any stigmas to exist in the case of a patient who fully admits they've reached a point where they cannot continue without dealing with either their past experiences or chemical/genetic issues in the brain matter.
However, what about the fatty-fat who burns 150 calories, pats themselves on the back, and gives themselves the only reward which would so show that they crucially learned absolutely fuck all: a meal the fatty-fat fattened themselves on all too often? Are they going to trend upwards back to normalcy? Is mockery of their failure not the utmost kindness if it corrects their behavior and ensures they're on the road back to real health?
What would be the therapy equivalence? I can think of a few, but one example should suffice, should we not mock the brokebrain who shops around for a therapist who would sleep with them so they can begin a power-game with them and then files a complaint on their previous therapist with the Board of Psychology for what the dysfunctional pea-brain thought was "focusing therapy on the licensee's own problems, rather than the patient's" but what was the BPD needing excessive out-of-session communications and getting upset at not getting it? Are they going to trend upwards back to normalcy? Is mockery of their failure not the utmost kindness if it corrects their behavior and ensures they're on the road back to real health?
Mind you, like a broken bone, they are weak for having to heal mentally. Disgust towards the disabled and broken though is natural evolution which does serve a actual purpose whenever there is a suggestion of falsity or quackery in the person seeking concern and understanding. However where there is firm science, and real recovery, there should be no social stigma. These brain sciences and medicines are still very much in their early days and labeling everything as a maladaptive behavior has given way to labeling everything as a systemic chemical imbalance. Neither is correct, and a firm distinction and separation is needed in the public between when to use Psychotherapy for learned behaviors and when to use Psychiatry for chemical or structural problems.
However, what about the fatty-fat who burns 150 calories, pats themselves on the back, and gives themselves the only reward which would so show that they crucially learned absolutely fuck all: a meal the fatty-fat fattened themselves on all too often? Are they going to trend upwards back to normalcy? Is mockery of their failure not the utmost kindness if it corrects their behavior and ensures they're on the road back to real health?
What would be the therapy equivalence? I can think of a few, but one example should suffice, should we not mock the brokebrain who shops around for a therapist who would sleep with them so they can begin a power-game with them and then files a complaint on their previous therapist with the Board of Psychology for what the dysfunctional pea-brain thought was "focusing therapy on the licensee's own problems, rather than the patient's" but what was the BPD needing excessive out-of-session communications and getting upset at not getting it? Are they going to trend upwards back to normalcy? Is mockery of their failure not the utmost kindness if it corrects their behavior and ensures they're on the road back to real health?
Mind you, like a broken bone, they are weak for having to heal mentally. Disgust towards the disabled and broken though is natural evolution which does serve a actual purpose whenever there is a suggestion of falsity or quackery in the person seeking concern and understanding. However where there is firm science, and real recovery, there should be no social stigma. These brain sciences and medicines are still very much in their early days and labeling everything as a maladaptive behavior has given way to labeling everything as a systemic chemical imbalance. Neither is correct, and a firm distinction and separation is needed in the public between when to use Psychotherapy for learned behaviors and when to use Psychiatry for chemical or structural problems.
Justin d Tipp
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Great way to eliminate stigma:
"Going to therapy has really helped me manage my violent impulses. Talking to someone about the compulsion to destroy everything I see is very cathartic. Turns out, a relatively low dose of medication definitely makes the desire to kill people just kind of... go away."
Making friends, family, and coworkers aware of who the fuck they've actually been talking to this entire time; Can turn a crowd of judgmental people into a loving, caring, respectful support network.
"Going to therapy has really helped me manage my violent impulses. Talking to someone about the compulsion to destroy everything I see is very cathartic. Turns out, a relatively low dose of medication definitely makes the desire to kill people just kind of... go away."
Making friends, family, and coworkers aware of who the fuck they've actually been talking to this entire time; Can turn a crowd of judgmental people into a loving, caring, respectful support network.
Are you off of your Normal Pills again?
ArnoldPalmer
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That's not the real problem. One of the big problems for mental health, is that the state and medical institutions can take your rights away if you seek help. You can be thrown in crazy jail, you can have your guns taken away, you can be assigned a handler, and there's nothing you can do about it. Even if your problem isn't so severe that any of those scenarios would play out, you'll be fed drugs that are either not good for what's wrong with you, due to how pharmacokinetic understanding ages like milk in the sun, or treat the symptom instead of the disease, for the exact same reason. If it was as simple as "oopsie, we put you on the wrong thing, here's the right thing", that'd be fine, but drugs like the first three generations of antidepressant, have the potential to fuck you up permanently.
The stigma of therapy and medication can go away as soon as Big Pharma, self-important therapists, and the government start performing surgery with a scalpel instead of a warhammer. This goes especially for mental health. People in modern society place WAY too much faith in modern medicine. We haven't come a long way. We found out how to fuck up less often. Have you ever been to an Emergency Room? They patch you up with gauze, write off a script for Amoxicillin, and send you out the door. You're not getting treated, you're getting what your mom did for you when you scraped your knee in a soccer game. Same deal if you're going in for something serious. You're rushed through the process, and nobody's going to even look at you more than twice unless you go to a private practitioner. Big hospitals are full of careless quacks who want to sell you pills for a cut of the profit, and be under no illusion that they're in the business of curing you. That would hurt the bottom-line. Way better to keep you on a prescription until you die.
Couple all that with how absolutely fucking unaffordable healthcare has been for 20+ years, and you'll find out how much of a "privileged" argument, "why doesn't everyone just bend over and trust the science?" really is. There are medical breakthroughs every other day. Do you think you're being treated with the bleeding edge of medical science when there is a 15-year approval period for most medicines? You get last-gen shit unless you're in a medical trial, if you're lucky. Even then, the last-gen treatment you get will cost you a fucking fortune and a half.
Of course, if you're this honest about the way the medical industry works, you're a paranoid schizophrenic and those ARE bugs on your arm.
P.S. Never be completely honest with a therapist. They are people too, and if they don't like you, they'll ruin your lives just like anyone else will. Lie if it gets you out of an asylum, or your shit confiscated. Also the shit you tell them is either something they don't care about at all, or will lead them to the bottle. You can't pay money for a friend's ear, you psychiatric simps.
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Eggplant Wizard
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We live in a time where trying to improve yourself in a mundane and normally respectable fashion (for example, starting your own business to have true independence) can have someone try to ruin you. All it takes is an encounter with one jackass and you’re done.
Now try to get mental help with this kind of environment. Even if it’s for dealing with depression because you lost your family is a car accident, which everyone can see as pretty reasonable, some asshole might use it just to ruin your life. All they have to say when they need to take a shot at you is “He’s on meds.” There. Done.
It isn’t a “stigma” against showing weakness so much as the simple fact that letting anyone know that there is a crack in your armor usually ends poorly. So why even walk into the building? Why would you willingly put blood into the water? That is why no one seeks help.
Now try to get mental help with this kind of environment. Even if it’s for dealing with depression because you lost your family is a car accident, which everyone can see as pretty reasonable, some asshole might use it just to ruin your life. All they have to say when they need to take a shot at you is “He’s on meds.” There. Done.
It isn’t a “stigma” against showing weakness so much as the simple fact that letting anyone know that there is a crack in your armor usually ends poorly. So why even walk into the building? Why would you willingly put blood into the water? That is why no one seeks help.
Shitted Scaredless
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My past therapists have been shit and did nothing. I don't care about stigma, but I do care about getting paired with a poor excuse for a professional.
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