Wolfenstein II The New Colossus - Triggered /pol/lacks and Alt Righters cry over game being about killing Nazi's

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frozenrunner

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I'm astounded that they went from a 12-14 hour long game to a 5-6 hour long game that is mostly cutscenes. When you look at something like Call of Duty, while the campaign is usually that short, you still get a quality campaign in addition to multiplayer and Zombies, which makes the $60 justified. What the hell is this game's excuse for being $60?

As Route 79 mentioned already, the lack of content might actually be the reason they've gone in this retarded direction with the marketing. The product can't sell itself so they need controversy to help.

I absolutely loved The New Order. The marketing for this game is terrible, but what actually upsets me is the length of the game. I guess I'll get this in 3 years for $5-10 on sale.
 

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Yeah if it's really that short then I'm definitely going to wait til it's on sale.

Really, the marketing on this game was actually pretty good. All they had to do was have Commie good guys and an angry black woman and suddenly the game got more exposure for less money than any company could've hoped for.

The louder people REEEEEd about "white genocide in muh vidya", the more people looked at the game. It's kinda like how Trigglypuff's outburst brought even more attention to Milo Yianogreekadopolis
 

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The problem is it's not so easy. "zomg right wing triggered" is a marketing ploy that they also used with the mad max movie. Yeah you can find a blog post where some neonazi spurgs out about how Hitler was portrayed but in general they don't give a shit.

That was actually a good movie, though. Maybe the best dumb action movie of that year. Also it wasn't, like this, an artificially generated sperg storm to try to distract from the fact that they're charging AAA prices for a walking simulator with a couple hours of shooting thrown in. I don't know (or even actually care at this point) whether there's the same SJW content in the game as in the deliberately annoying marketing troll campaign, but I do know that trying to sell shit with no game content or not much game content as a game is something often associated with that ilk, and that stirring up outrage to hide the low quality of a product is an increasingly common and transparent tactic that is often a warning sign they can't pimp the product itself as good.
 

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I agree so far this game just feels inferior to the original. The level design feels like one long tunnel with occasional combat arenas where you have to kill two officers who call in reinforcements. I'm still early in the manhattan portion although now it sounds from the talk of this thread I'm 20 percent in.

Consider me triggered right now for spending 60 on this
 

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Honestly this is the most disappointing and unfortunate part of this whole debacle.

I ain't paying $60 for a 5 hour long game where half the content is cutscenes.

People shat on MGSV for being low on content but I managed to play that for 250 hours. I can't imagine the disappointment I'd feel with this game.
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they don't care enough about alt-right founder and leader Richard Spencer to include him in their compilation of injured nazis?
 

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That was actually a good movie, though. Maybe the best dumb action movie of that year. Also it wasn't, like this, an artificially generated sperg storm to try to distract from the fact that they're charging AAA prices for a walking simulator with a couple hours of shooting thrown in. I don't know (or even actually care at this point) whether there's the same SJW content in the game as in the deliberately annoying marketing troll campaign, but I do know that trying to sell shit with no game content or not much game content as a game is something often associated with that ilk, and that stirring up outrage to hide the low quality of a product is an increasingly common and transparent tactic that is often a warning sign they can't pimp the product itself as good.
This reminds me of the whole EA protester marketing stunt a few years ago, except it's slightly more organic now that they're prodding spergs instead of paying people to pretend to be spergs.


they don't care enough about alt-right founder and leader Richard Spencer to include him in their compilation of injured nazis?
Spencer is seen as a dipshit by quite a few people in the alt-right. Nobody in the alt-right even knew/cared who he was until CNN started promoting the shit out of him, and he's responsible for that disastrous rally.
 

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I forgot this came out until somebody mentioned this @ chat. Like dude Mario is out! JIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIM
 

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I have a friend who has been playing it because he thought all the salt spilled over this shit was gay and he wanted to see for himself if it was really that damn bad.

Here's a list of what he found that's actually worthy of complaint:


1. It's got a shit-ton of cutscenes to actual gameplay and the story was lame.

And they aren't even good in the "interesting and compelling for their sheer narrative and quirkiness" like in the Metal Gear Solid games either.

For the most part, the story ranges from cliche to absolute cringe in the ones that advance the plot, especially the flashbacks to the hero's dad, who couldn't be more of a cutout of shitty humanity if he were made of cardboard and literal feces. Everything else ranges from edgy shit to hamfisted political crap in a game that isn't all that good at delivering any of it with any sort of nuance whatsoever.

We discussed how Doom 2016 had minimal story, but what was there just reinforced the whole reason you were playing: "Demons suck, go kill them.", and based on his take on things, the game would have been better had it just stuck to "Nazis suck, go kill them" without attempting nuance because the game was generally bad at it.


2. The PC port is dogshit.


The Steam Overlay cannot be used in game, it's got a ton of performance issues, and is generally optimized like ass for PC. The actual gameplay is fun, but only when the performance issues fuck off and let you enjoy it.


3. The marketing for the game was generally a shroud to sucker people into buying it for reasons of controversy and to drum up publicity.

While places like KIA were spilling spaghetti over how political it supposedly was, it was really the marketing was geared that was because dumbasses in Bethseda's marketing department thought they could badly springboard off recent political shit and use it to pimp the game.

The actual content in-game is generally too cliche and hamfisted to be political propaganda of any sort that would actually be effective, and even in universe the hero just says he doesn't give a shit about political crap, he just wants to kill Nazis, especially to one of the cliche commies who tries to play off the hero's Jewish origins as one of his motivations.


He concluded by conceding it did have legit fun gameplay when performance was good and the cutscenes fucked off long enough to enjoy it, but aside from that it wasn't worth bitching about, at least not for the reasons places like KIA and the salt right were whining about.
 

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I'm serious here, not baiting.
I also want to know why the KKK would be allies with the catholic nazis and instead aren't a rebel faction trying to make America protestant again
That's actually my main squabble with the game. Like, LOL @ the clip of the Nazis buddying up with the KKK. It'd legit make as much sense for BJ to team up with them as it would for him to team up with the Commies (that is to say, a great deal, cuz the Nazis hated the KKK too). Communist imagery is less controversial than KKK imagery in the US and also video games have a much longer history of including commies (as enemies, of course) than KKK members. Like including a friendly KKK force would involve throwing the word "nigger" around and that's ultimately not gonna sell games.
Bit late but considering KKK and Nazi's: the former joins the latter because within the game, you can overhear two Nazis having a conversation on the KKK. One says they allow the KKK because of similar ideologies (wanting to keep shit pure) though another letter from a Nazi says the KKK is more fit to be sledgehammers than scalpels. However, one letter within the game shows that some klansmen might not be for it, at least in terms of some policies (if one in-game letter from a klansmen is anything to go by).

Even then, it may stretch back to lore in the previous game: Hitler turns on Japan which probably sat well with some klansmen. Even then, KKK doesn't really have much going for them in this game beyond being an enemy in Roswell when you do a sort of "free roam" on the small town map.

I have a friend who has been playing it because he thought all the salt spilled over this shit was gay and he wanted to see for himself if it was really that damn bad.

Here's a list of what he found that's actually worthy of complaint:


1. It's got a shit-ton of cutscenes to actual gameplay and the story was lame.

And they aren't even good in the "interesting and compelling for their sheer narrative and quirkiness" like in the Metal Gear Solid games either.

For the most part, the story ranges from cliche to absolute cringe in the ones that advance the plot, especially the flashbacks to the hero's dad, who couldn't be more of a cutout of shitty humanity if he were made of cardboard and literal feces. Everything else ranges from edgy shit to hamfisted political crap in a game that isn't all that good at delivering any of it with any sort of nuance whatsoever.

We discussed how Doom 2016 had minimal story, but what was there just reinforced the whole reason you were playing: "Demons suck, go kill them.", and based on his take on things, the game would have been better had it just stuck to "Nazis suck, go kill them" without attempting nuance because the game was generally bad at it.


2. The PC port is dogshit.


The Steam Overlay cannot be used in game, it's got a ton of performance issues, and is generally optimized like ass for PC. The actual gameplay is fun, but only when the performance issues fuck off and let you enjoy it.


3. The marketing for the game was generally a shroud to sucker people into buying it for reasons of controversy and to drum up publicity.

While places like KIA were spilling spaghetti over how political it supposedly was, it was really the marketing was geared that was because dumbasses in Bethseda's marketing department thought they could badly springboard off recent political shit and use it to pimp the game.

The actual content in-game is generally too cliche and hamfisted to be political propaganda of any sort that would actually be effective, and even in universe the hero just says he doesn't give a shit about political crap, he just wants to kill Nazis, especially to one of the cliche commies who tries to play off the hero's Jewish origins as one of his motivations.


He concluded by conceding it did have legit fun gameplay when performance was good and the cutscenes fucked off long enough to enjoy it, but aside from that it wasn't worth bitching about, at least not for the reasons places like KIA and the salt right were whining about.
As someone who bought the game on release as a birthday present to himself, the game is fun but the overlay is fucked (a discussion topic found a way around it though). Rip Blazkowicz does seem to be someone with as much nuance as an obvious cut out though some in-game letters do show a bit on how much of his business failings are on him. Far as fun goes, peak of it is with the Panzerhund in burning Nazi's. Also in terms of story, the game sorta feels like it may jump the shark (that or do a sort of WTF moment) after you get captured (so as to not spoil much, beyond the Nazi punch which was in marketing, it proves to be a daydream, nothing more. The scene after what happens to BJ really comes of as WTF when considering what happens just before it.)
 

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