Disaster Woman admits killing her father 12 years ago and burying body in garden - He was very strict

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https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/barbara-coombes-sentencing-court-live-14894148
A woman has been jailed for nine years for killing her 'strict' father with a shovel, burying his body in the back garden and then covering up her crime for 11 years.

A court was told that Barbara Coombes had suffered a 'lifetime of mental and physical abuse' at the hands of Kenneth Coombes.

In a 'haze of disgust' she hit him twice over the head with a shovel, then used the sharp end of the implement to cut his throat and watched him 'bleed to death'.

The court was told that Ms Coombes then 'panicked' and buried his body - wrapped in a roll of carpet - in the back garden of their home in Reddish, Stockport.

His body was left uncovered overnight, until Ms Coombes, now 63, ordered a tonne of soil the next day to cover him up.

Sentencing Ms Coombes to nine years in prison, the judge said the case was tragic because Mr Coombes had died but also tragic from Ms Coombes’ standpoint.

Neighbours of Kenneth Coombes described him as 'strict' and had said he 'simply disappeared' 12 years ago. He would have been in his 80s at the time.

But Manchester Crown Court was told that his daughter had suffered a lifetime of 'mental and physical abuse' at his hands.

However the judge said Ms Coombes concealed the killing in ‘quite an elaborate and careful way’.

She told her brother and her daughter that he had died suddenly from a heart condition and had been taken to hospital and then cremated.

The judge said Ms Coombes ‘went out of her way’ in the following years to cover up the killing.

She only confessed when the ‘net around you became tighter and tighter in the sense that the authorities were seeking to see your father face to face’.

Ms Coombes fraudulently claimed the pension of her father and her carer’s allowance to the tune of £189,125.

The authorities began to ask questions about this - and Ms Coombes killed her father the day before she was expecting a visit from someone wanting to meet him. She 'realised the pretence couldn’t continue'.

GMP launched an investigation after Coombes walked into Cheadle Heath police station on January 7, this year, and told officers she had killed her dad a number of years ago.

She also revealed that his body had been buried in the back garden of her semi-detached home, in Matlock Road, Reddish, Stockport.

Specialist officers quickly cordoned off the house and began to search the property.

They recovered human remains from the garden.

Barbara Coombes pleaded guilty to the manslaughter of Kenneth Coombes during a hearing at Manchester Crown Court and was sentenced this afternoon (Thursday).

Neighbours told the M.E.N how Mr Coombes, an ex-soldier, had ‘just disappeared’.

During the inquiry, investigators handed out questionnaires on the residential street asking locals what they know of the ‘death of Kenneth Coombes’.

The court heard how Barbara Coombes’ daughter described her grandfather as having a ‘formidable’ character.

He served in World War Two in mechanics.

Barbara was the youngest of three children, and her parents separated when she was a child.

She married and had one child.

After she split with her husband she decided to move back into her father’s home, despite the abuse.

The court was told she could live rent free, and she wanted stability for her and her daughter after once having to stay in a bedsit.

At the time of the police search, former neighbour Terry Sever said: “To my knowledge this man Kenneth just disappeared. I was not that friendly to ask where he went. I just did not see him anymore.”

Mr Sever recalled how Barbara Coombes said her father was ‘strict’.

He said: “She used to say how strict her father was. If he wanted to watch something on television, her and her daughter used to have to go out of the room. He was very strict.”
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As I drive through Chicago, I often wonder how many backyards have hidden corpses. I bet the number is higher than any of us would guess.

Also, I'm guessing this father wasn't strict enough given that his daughter broke the most important commandments by not honoring her parent and committing murder.
 

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Seems like even the older ones manage to at least partially benefit of ye olde pussy pass.

Nine years for what must have been a first degree murder. Plus all those years of pension fraud! That's a good deal.

 
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Seems like even the older ones manage to at least partially benefit of ye olde pussy pass.

Nine years for what must have been a first degree murder. That's a good deal.
First degree murder? I would love to see someone try it as such and win.

The judicial system is shaped to allow every case it's own interpretation of sentencing based on the individual case's circumstances. The circumstances in this case were clearly that he was an abusive and controlling individual - not something that should warrant being murdered, but in this case it was a contributing factor. There were no doubt other contributing factors - like the "haze of disgust" mentioned.
She is being punished for the murder and deception. There's nothing "pussy pass" about that. 9 years is adequate given her age and the circumstances.

I suppose this guy's "penis pass" allowed him to get 6 years for killing a kid in a "haze of disgust", something that certainly wouldn't have been preceded by a lifetime of abuse.
https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/disgust-at-sentence-for-british-man-who-killed-teenage-biker-with-a-spade-824979.html
 

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Why didn't she cut contact with her father? Its not like she's been an adult for decades or anything. When she hit adulthood, she could have moved a couple towns away and never seen him again. I guess it would be considered victim blaming, but why subject yourself to abuse for that long, just to murder them instead of getting a cab and fucking off.
 

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Why didn't she cut contact with her father? Its not like she's been an adult for decades or anything. When she hit adulthood, she could have moved a couple towns away and never seen him again. I guess it would be considered victim blaming, but why subject yourself to abuse for that long, just to murder them instead of getting a cab and fucking off.
After she split with her husband she decided to move back into her father’s home, despite the abuse.

The court was told she could live rent free, and she wanted stability for her and her daughter after once having to stay in a bedsit.
 

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So free ride > abuse? Still dumb as fuck.

Edit: To add some :powerlevel: and context, my mother had a few opportunities to choose between an abusive free ride and a the tougher, less abusive path. God bless her for never choosing abuse, at least for the sake of her own mental health.
 
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I suppose this guy's "penis pass" allowed him to get 6 years for killing a kid in a "haze of disgust", something that certainly wouldn't have been preceded by a lifetime of abuse.
https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/disgust-at-sentence-for-british-man-who-killed-teenage-biker-with-a-spade-824979.html
Well, that bloke didn't knock the kid over with the shovel and then, when that didn't work, finish the job by slitting the boy's throat. He then didn't conceal the body and crime for 12 years while cashing the deceased's pension checks.

So maybe the cases aren't so similar? Or maybe baselessly claiming you were abused by A MAN justifies it all.

The judicial system is shaped to allow every case it's own interpretation of sentencing based on the individual case's circumstances.
Yet somehow women consistently receive lighter sentences.

At least thats what research shows.


Its not like the disparity exists, you just told me it doesn't!


I'm just a dumb male though, what do I know?


My big dumb penis gets in the way of reading scholarly research.


You never hear the feminists talk about the sentencing gap the way they do the 'wage gap' for some reason. If only my substantial prick wasn't hogging all the blood maybe my pathetic male brain could figure out why.
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heathercho

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Yet somehow women consistently receive lighter sentences.

At least thats what research shows.


Its not like the disparity exists, you just told me it doesn't!


I'm just a dumb male though, what do I know?


My big dumb penis gets in the way of reading scholarly research.


You never hear the feminists talk about the sentencing gap the way they do the 'wage gap' for some reason. If only my substantial prick wasn't hogging all the blood maybe my pathetic male brain could figure out why.
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This is American data. This happened in the UK. I know your "substantial prick was probably hogging the blood to your pathetic male brain", but there are situational differences between UK and US law, let alone society.

I don't disagree that overall, males are incarcerated more often than females - not only that, but they're usually socially exposed more to being in a situation to a commit a crime than females, however, there are other situations that contribute to lighter sentences for females. Females are more often to be the victims of domestic abuse - I know, I know, men can be beaten too, but historically and in reality, women are more often the victim.

The US is also very light when handing out punishment for child killers, but murders of adults carry longer terms. Financial crimes carry even heavier terms than that. It's all different.
I was reading about how a woman killed her abusive husband and was sentenced to 20 years, yet a man was sentenced to 8 for stabbing his wife to death, after 10 years of raping and beating her. Every single case is different. That's what I was arguing. If you think I'm attacking your masculinity because I disagree with you, then just let it slide, coz I have that elusive "pussy pass" after all.
 

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I post scholarly articles literally showing data and conclusions that control for all other factors but gender and still:

:dumb::dumb:REEEEE! THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS!!! REEE! MAH ANCEDOTES! REEEEE!!! :dumb::dumb:
I'm a dumb male and I worked out how to use Google scholar, how about you try? Or just guilt a man into doing it for you.
 
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heathercho

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I post scholarly articles literally showing data and conclusions that control for all other factors but gender and still:



I'm a dumb male and I worked out how to use Google scholar, how about you try? Or just guilt a man into doing it for you.
I said those articles are from the US. This case is from the UK. It has nothing to do with this situation. They are completely different countries with different demographics, besides, they're studies, so what? There's studies about how climate change isn't real too. Studies are subjective.

However, you know, I read your studies and I conceded that you are correct in some aspects, but the legal system has been formed to take circumstances into account when they sentence people. Hence why, some men get different sentences that societies deem unfair or harsh and some men get ones we would consider as insultingly light and ditto for females in the same circumstance. I don't understand why you think this is an attack on your masculinity. Calm down.
Besides, the court is always privy to more information than the media releases. Just because I say this, doesn't mean I agree with the idea that one should get a lesser sentence because of abuse - I clearly stated that above, but merely that no cases are cut and dry and circumstances are taken into account. I don't know why that's so contentious for you.
 
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heathercho

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Contextually, it doesn't matter. Men are more incarcerated than women in prisons world-wide. It's not even up for debate. Same thing with lighter sentencing.
I don't disagree that overall, males are incarcerated more often than females - not only that, but they're usually socially exposed more to being in a situation to a commit a crime than females, however, there are other situations that contribute to lighter sentences for females.
It doesn't matter contextually true, but I enjoyed the fuck out of @JohnDoe sperging about muh rights, when I give the exact same answer continually. I already said I agreed multiple times. But you know what else doesn't matter? None of this matters, because the more soy they make males, the more flaccid they will become, less violent and involved a lot less in situations that will result in jail time. That's the real enemy here.
 
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