Woodstock 50 Discussion Thread - Lineup got announced

How's it looking

  • Utter shit

    Votes: 31 73.8%
  • Seems like a decent lineup

    Votes: 1 2.4%
  • That's my playlist right there

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Pretty Hit or Miss

    Votes: 5 11.9%
  • Ain't this Hippie Music?

    Votes: 5 11.9%

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At least they got Santana back

Shit going to one of his concerts, you're guaranteed to get second hand high off of all the pot being smoked. Especially since this is fucking woodstock I'm sure everyone is getting stoned.


t. went to one of his concerts about 5 years ago and got high as fuck being around everyone
Just don't take the brown acid man!!

That's the thing with an event of this magnitude. It could never be truly replicated. I get the homages and tributes and anniversary shit, but the music and freeness at Woodstock back on that August weekend of '69, that will never happen again. It was perfect for the time, music, scene and overall environment of society in the US at the time.

I don't know what they are charging for this 50th, but it was like $6.50 a day in 1969 for a ticket. And the musicians who played were the cream of the scene. Only groups like Dylan, The Stones, Beatles, Doors and probably a few more were missing. 90% of the artists that played the Festival were the top acts at the time.
 

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Don't really give a shit about the festival, other than see what kind of shitshow this could produce.

Woodstock 50 investor withdraws leaving festival in shambles

'We don't believe the production of the festival can be executed as an event worthy of the … name': investor
The Associated Press · Posted: Apr 29, 2019 3:21 PM ET | Last Updated: 34 minutes ago

Woodstock 50 is proving to be as chaotic as the original festival held in 1969.

A financial investor in the festival announced Monday it was pulling its funding from the anniversary event, set to take place Aug. 16-18 in Watkins Glen, N.Y.

"Despite our tremendous investment of time, effort and commitment, we don't believe the production of the festival can be executed as an event worthy of the Woodstock Brand name while also ensuring the health and safety of the artists, partners and attendees," Amplifi, Dentsu Aegis Network's media investment arm, said in a statement.

Representatives for Woodstock 50 or Michael Lang, who co-founded the festival, didn't immediately reply to emails Monday seeking comment.

The anniversary event has had some bumps in the road in the last few weeks. Tickets were originally supposed to go on sale last week, but was postponed (a ticket sale date still has not been announced). And some of the performers leaked to the press ahead of its announcement.

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Jay-Z, Dead & Company and the Killers were announced as headliners at the event, to take place about 185 kilometres northwest of the original site. The event is separate from an anniversary concert planned at the site of the original festival in 1969.

More than 80 artists, including John Fogerty, Miley Cyrus, Santana, Imagine Dragons, Robert Plant and The Sensational Space Shifters, The Black Keys, Chance the Rapper and Janelle Monae, were expected to perform on three main stages at Watkins Glen International racetrack in the Finger Lakes for Woodstock 50.

The original concert was held on a farm in Bethel, N.Y., that is now run as an attraction by the Bethel Woods Center for the Arts. The venue has its own anniversary event Aug. 16-18 with performances by Ringo Starr, Fogerty and Santana.
 

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And it is canceled for now:

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/festivals/8509091/woodstock-50-festival-cancelled


Woodstock Organizers Cancel 50th Anniversary Festival





"We don’t believe the production of the festival can be executed as an event worthy of the Woodstock Brand name."
Woodstock 50 has been cancelled. Earlier today officials with Dentsu Aegis Network, which is funding the festival, released the following statement toBillboard:
“It’s a dream for agencies to work with iconic brands and to be associated with meaningful movements. We have a strong history of producing experiences that bring people together around common interests and causes which is why we chose to be a part of the Woodstock 50th Anniversary Festival. But despite our tremendous investment of time, effort and commitment, we don’t believe the production of the festival can be executed as an event worthy of the Woodstock Brand name while also ensuring the health and safety of the artists, partners and attendees."
The statement goes on, "As a result and after careful consideration, Dentsu Aegis Network’s Amplifi Live, a partner of Woodstock 50, has decided to cancel the festival. As difficult as it is, we believe this is the most prudent decision for all parties involved.”
Headliners at the three-day event included The Killers, Dead and Co, Imagine Dragons and Jay-Z. Other artists on the bill included Miley Cyrus, The Lumineers, Chance the Rapper, Sturgill Simpson, Halsey and Cage the Elephant, among many others. Organizers also enticed several veteran musicians from the original 1969 Woodstock to perform, including John Fogerty, John Sebastian, David Crosby, Canned Heat and Country Joe McDonald.

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Michael Lang Calls Woodstock 50 Cancellation 'Rumors' After Ticket On-Sale Postponed


Sources say concerns about the capacity of the festival, site readiness and permitting issues led to the cancellation of the commemorative event, which had been scheduled for Aug. 16-18. Last week, a representative for the festival reached out to officials with Live Nation and AEG to inquire about a $20 million investment to save the event, but both companies declined the offer.
The solicitation came just days after missing a deadline to begin selling tickets for the Aug. 16-18 festival. Besides issues with financing and permits, organizers were growing increasingly concerned that the Watkins Glen International speedway would not be able accommodate the 100,000-person festival.
More than $30 million has already been spent on the festival lineup, a source with knowledge of the proposal tells Billboard and most artists have already been paid by Amplify Live, the investment arm of Dentsu Aegis Network, a multinational media and digital marketing firm headquartered in London and a wholly owned by Japanese media firm Dentsu.
Billboard will update this story as more information becomes available.
Could the lack of Limp Bizkit be the cause?
 
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Woodstock 50 organizers “vehemently deny” cancellation
Following a statement from the festival’s financial backer, Dentsu Aegis Network, thatWoodstock 50 is cancelled, festival organizers have responded saying that isn’t true. “Woodstock 50 vehemently denies the festival’s cancellation and legal remedy will (be) sought,” a statement from the festival toPoughkeepsie Journal reads.

One of those organizers, original Woodstock co-founder Michael Lang, spoke to New York Times shortly after Dentsu Aegis’s statement, and said “they do not have the right to unilaterally cancel the festival.” Lang has not made any further statement at this time.

Officials in Schuyler County, NY, including County Administrator Tim O’Hearn, say they received word from Dentsu Aegis in an email this morning, Poughkeepsie Journal reports. “It’s a surprise, no question about that, and we’re certainly disappointed and have to respect their decision, but this is a huge economic loss for the county,” he said said. “We hope we can salvage something from it as we move forward.”

Billboard reports that in the past few days, organizers planned to fire festival producer Superfly (who also produce Bonnaroo, Outside Lands, and other festivals) and hire CID Entertainment to replace them. They also sought an additional $20 million in funding, reaching out to both Live Nation and AEG, both of whom turned them down.

Representatives for Lang told Billboard that he wasn’t aware of the recent attempts at securing more funding, and called Dentsu Aegis a multi-billion dollar company. “$20 million is nothing to those guys,” they said.
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I want to see them push forward with this and flounder after their lineup of random corporate radio muzak fails to sell enough tickets.

At least things like Ozzfest have a target audience. These people are banking on instathots and trust fund kids dropping a fortune on a concert just to be present at the event for that purpose only.
 
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I want to see them push forward with this and flounder after their lineup of random corporate radio muzak fails to sell enough tickets.

At least things like Ozzfest have a target audience. These people are banking on instathots and trust fund kids dropping a fortune on a concert just to be present at the event for that purpose only.
It would be hilarious if it turned into Fyre Festival Redux.
 

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You know, if Jim Ignatowski didn't go to Woodstock 69 there would have just been Four Hundred Ninety Nine Thousand and Nine Hundred and Ninety Nine people.

Lucky for Woodstock he went, so they had half a million in attendance.
 
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So they bully out a giant polish festival out of their name and than cancel? AHAHAAHAHAAHAH

Lucky for Woodstock he went, so they had half a million in attendance.
the Polish Woodstock gets those numbers every fuckn year.

they have to beat this:

If they want it to be a real succes, and they cant do that.
 

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So they bully out a giant polish festival out of their name and than cancel? AHAHAAHAHAAHAH


the Polish Woodstock gets those numbers every fuckn year.

they have to beat this:

If they want it to be a real succes, and they cant do that.
Meh, you must be too young to get my joke.
 

Gordon Cole

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The plot thickens.
Woodstock Founder Says Japanese Investors Siphoned $17 Million, Sinking Festival

Michael Lang also claims Dentsu dangled an Olympics 2020 gig to acts who quit.

UPDATED: In a telling letter sent Monday afternoon to Woodstock 50’s former investors, the Japanese firm Dentsu Aegis, Woodstock 50 founder Michael Lang has asked that the company “honor the law and your obligations, stop interfering with our efforts to put on this wonderful event and return the $17 million you improperly took.”

The letter alleges that Dentsu’ investment branch Amplifi “illegally swept approximately $17 million from the festival bank account” on April 29, the same day that Dentsu surprised Lang by announcing that they had unilaterally canceled the festival.

The letter contains other fresh allegations of what Lang contends is illegal activity by his former partners. “We also have evidence that Dentsu representatives have gone so far as to say that should the talent back out of Woodstock, they would be seen favorably by Dentsu,” he wrote, “and that this could result in their performing the 2020 Summer Olympics in Tokyo, where Dentsu is a major organizer. In these actions too, Dentsu has acted not only without honor, but outside of the law.”

Lang’s letter was distributed to the media Monday by Sallie Hofmeister of Sitrick & Company and represents an escalation in Lang’s claims about Dentsu. In an interview with Variety last week, Lang had said that Dentsu was still on the hook for $30 million they had put into the festival, “and our attorneys tell us they have walked away from it.” Lang’s statement Monday that the firm had siphoned off $17 million seems at odds with his earlier claim that Dentsu had simply abandoned its investment.

A rep for Dentsu-Aegis dismissed Lang’s claim that the money was taken illegally, saying in a statement provided toVariety: “As financial partner, we had the customary rights one would expect to protect a large investment. After we exercised our contractual right to take over, and subsequently, cancel the festival, we simply recovered the funds in the festival bank account, funds which we originally put in as financial partner. Further, tickets cannot go on sale for an event prior to obtaining a mass gathering permit, which has still not been granted. Beyond that we stand by our original statement that we made last week.”

Much of the rest of Lang’s letter lays out arguments that are familiar to anyone following the story, if still startling in the overall scheme of things.

Lang says he “had some concerns about linking an organization like Dentsu to Woodstock. Corporations are not always the right match for certain creative endeavors,” but he adds that his worries were assuaged when he was told of Dentsu’s history of “social initiative after certain tragedies” and was “reassured that Dentsu wold not interfere” in anything beyond its financial role.

His worries resurfaced, he writes, when he was given a contract with Amplifi Live attached, but Lang says Dentsu’s chief commercial officer in America, DJ Martin, “told me this was for optics only because of international investment law.”

On April 22, Lang says, Woodstock 50 was granted conditional approval by the state of New York so that “we could have tickets go on sale as we had promised the fans and public. Your team blocked this sale for no apparent reason. Together, our organizations faced a question of cash flow since Dentsu had not been successful in selling sponsorships for the Woodstock Festival.” By April 26, he writes, “we presented multiple plans illustrating a slight profit and substantiated these plans with supporting documents. However, for reasons not explained to us, it seemed to fall on deaf ears.”

On the fateful day of April 29, the warring “canceled”/”not canceled” notices went out. That morning, Lang writes, Dentsu sent him notice that “they had taken control of the festival”; 15 minutes later, he says, “they advised that they had canceled the festival” — neither of which, Lang says, was within their rights. “This same team had also already notified the press without any advance notice to me or my team. While we were on a call together as a group at 12:00 EDT, the media had already begun reporting that Woodstock was cancelled. I then learned that Amplifi illegally swept approximately $17 million from the festival bank account, leaving the festival in peril. These actions confirmed my worst concerns about partnering with your company. These actions are neither a legal nor honorable way to do business.”

Additionally, says Lang, “since your team announced that the festival was cancelled, I have received multiple reports and evidence that Dentsu has directly contacted all stakeholders, including the venue Watkins Glen International, insurance companies, producers, vendors and performers (some of whom I am lucky to count as personal friends) and suggested they not do business with me, and violate their contracts with my company. Your team has gone so far as to promise indemnification to these contracted parties should they back out of our contracts.”

Amid all this turmoil, Lang still manages to provide a sunny outlook for the festival going on. “Fortunately, we have renewed interest in financing and remain confident that Woodstock 50 will take place as planned,” he writes. “In fact, the events of late, while not planned, have caused a groundswell of support for Woodstock in every conceivable manner, making the prospects of having a successful event a virtual certainty even after the actions your company has taken.”

“In the end, since Dentsu has already abandoned Woodstock, all I ask for is that Dentsu walk away peacefully and allow me to deliver to the people a 50th Anniversary Festival. Again, I respectfully ask that Dentsu stop its obstructionist actions with the talent and stakeholders. We feel we now have a window to come together with you to peacefully resolve this matter and create a wonderful and special festival.”
https://variety.com/2019/music/news/woodstock-founder-michael-lang-claims-investors-dentsu-17-million-1203206596/
 

Syaoran Li

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I'm surprised that the article didn't mention the fiasco that was '99. Looks like the nu-metal revival period will have to be another day.
(As if)
Give it time and nu-metal may have a small comeback when more of the edgy mall goth Millennials get old and start feeling nostalgia for the early 2000's.

It happened to 1980's hair metal in the mid-2000's when a lot of the old Gen X edgelords started reaching mid-life crisis age.

Granted, hair metal was a little more tolerable than nu-metal but my point stands.

Of course, I'm a guy who likes Boomer oldies and Gen X classic hits, and I unironically believe the Millennials have the worst music of any living generation, although Gen Z's music sucks too, albeit not as much since you don't see a lot of pretentious indie hipster shit with them like you do with the Millennial stuff.
 

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So they lost the venue and their producing company. This festival isn't happening.

Pitchfork said:
Woodstock 50, a 50th anniversary event celebrating the iconic 1969 festival, was originally scheduled to take place from August 16-18 at an upstate New York racetrack called Watkins Glen International. But today, following a recent series of setbacks and complications, the festival has lost their venue. “Watkins Glen International terminated the site license for Woodstock pursuant to provisions of the contract,” the venue confirmed in a statement. “As such, WGI will not be hosting the Woodstock 50 Festival.”

Less than an hour after the venue made the announcement, the festival’s producer CID Entertainment released a statement announcing that they were also cutting ties with Woodstock 50. “CID Entertainment had been engaged to provide enhanced camping, travel packages and transportation for Woodstock 50,” CID Entertainment head Dan Berkowitz said in a statement to Billboard. “Given developments, we can confirm that CID is no longer involved in Woodstock 50 in any capacity.”

After Watkins Glen International backed out, Woodstock 50 LLC principal Gregory Peck claimed in a statement that the event will still happen. “We are in discussions with another venue to host Woodstock 50 on August 16-18 and look forward to sharing the new location when tickets go on sale in the coming weeks,” he said. Pitchfork has reached out to Woodstock 50 about CID Entertainment’s announcement.

The news follows a legal battle between Woodstock 50 and their former financial backers Dentsu Aegis Network, who pulled out of the festival in April and claimed the event was canceled. Since, Woodstock 50 has found new investors and assured the public that the festival is still on.

Woodstock 50’s lineup, announced in March, was initially scheduled to feature JAY-Z, the Killers, Chance the Rapper, Miley Cyrus, and the Raconteurs, among others. In April, the Black Keys pulled out of the festival over a stated scheduling conflict. The festival never officially released tickets as reports of insufficient permits surfaced.
 

Dysnomia

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Garbage lineup. Plus there have been a lot of festival disasters in the past few years. A lot of scams or just plain failures. It's always a huge risk.
 

Jozef

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A shitty lineup, and the whole show was just gonna degenerate into a big social justice lecture, so good.
 
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