World of Warcraft Rank 1 Player Reckful Commits Suicide -

[Jaded Optimist]

Maybe we need a twitch suicide mega thread, here's one with 100,000 followers who killed themselves this week.

https://www.dexerto.com/amp/general/twitch-streamer-ohlana-passes-away-at-26-from-suicide-1389840

http://archive.fo/JTAQ7

Edit: My bad, I somehow missed the last page. Gimme late stickers please.

 

[Neil]

It won't stop until the majority of people take mental illnesses seriously. Sadly we live in a deranged society that rather hoist them up on a pedestal instead of treating them for the crippling horror they are. You can thank the LGBT for that. Thanks to their bullshit mental illnesses are seen as a "strength" not a weakness that needs to be remedied like they really are. If you wanna suck dick or munch carpet, you do you, but their politics make it incredibly hard for people with mental illnesses to be taken seriously. They have easily done far more damage than good.

I don't hate the LGBT because I'm "transphobic" "homophobic" or whatever retarded buzzword they have this week. I hate them because their retarded political nonsense royally fucks over people who need genuine help dealing with their mental ailments. It's not because it has an effect on me personally, it's because I have a deep and painful understanding of how crippling it really is. I don't want others suffering like this, it's fucking horrifying, and these stupid jackasses make it worse for all of us. Call me a "bleeding heart" if you want, but I'm just speaking from experience and my heart. Mental illnesses are a death sentence, not something to be lawded around like a fucking achievement.


Sorry for ranting, this is just a subject I'm extremely passionate about.

I'm quite a few pages late, but let me join in on the ranting.

Spoiler: rant

It's total bullshit how people nowadays wear mental illness as a badge of honor. Everywhere on sites like Twitter and previously Tumblr, you'd see idiots with bios like "uwu i'm a bipolar autistic trans lesbian wlw demiboy enby w/ PTSD, anxiety, misophonia, delusions, violent tendencies and depression! DNI if you're a twansphobe!", hell people even tried to normalize dissociative identity disorder with that whole "multiple system" shit, where people who didn't actually have the disorder LARPed as anime and video game characters on the internet for asspats.

Meanwhile, people who actually did have the disorder had a new voice reaffirming their delusions instead of holding them to the cold hard reality that the government isn't actually out to get them, or that they aren't actually a pink pony from a children's cartoon. The saddest fucking thing is that after doing their damage, the fakers invent a way out of their supposed DiD, where their "system" of colorful cartoon characters suddenly "disbands" one. It's like kids putting their toys away after they've lost interest.

On the LGBT front, heaven-fucking-forbid anyone have a genuine discussion about transsexuality ever. You can never talk about treatment, research, or therapy for gender dysphoria or body dysmorphia, it's always "SURGERY SURGERY SURGERY!", or hell, for those who don't have the balls to go through with surgery, they must always chant the mantra,"Trans women ARE women" to reassure themselves that they are indeed their chosen gender because feelings matter more than cold hard fact. Now it's perfectly okay to let intersex children grow up mangled, with one working genital and a useless, vestigial one, Intersex pride! Stop medicalizing intersex and trans bodies!
Let's also not forget people starting to call "Sex-reassignment surgery" for trannies "Sex-reaffirming surgery". Absolutely nothing mentally wrong with them at all! Hell, we should let kids transition as early as 8, too! Perfectly normal, also, you don't need dysphoria to be trans either! Don't ever mention that 40-50% suicide rate, bigot, there's absolutely nothing wrong with encouraging this at all! Gender Euphoria!

There shouldn't be dumbasses on Twitter pushing things like "autism pride". That shit completely ignores every mid-to-low functioning person with autism, who doesn't have the luxury of living almost parallel to people without autism. It ignores autistic people have to constantly hit themselves, live in a constant state of sensory agony unable to control certain motor functions, and can only scream their lungs out in pain because they aren't able to speak or communicate verbally.
That's some shit to be prideful of, right? Definitely something the families who dedicate their lives to taking care of them find pride in, right? No need for research into medications and treatment for the sensory agony that these people feel, autistic people are just "Neurodiverse!" Autism research is oppressive!

Then there's the romanticization of suicidal thoughts and tendencies, and people doing dumb shit like attaching zodiac signs to mental illness "My sign is cancer, I'm so bipolar!" (and they genuinely mean it too, no fucking joke).

People attach self-diagnosed mental illness tags on themselves in the same way others attach five billion sexualities to themselves. To people it's something new and cute that gives them the personality they lack. This kind of behavior always leads to the new trendy in thing being watered down and delegitimized, and makes actual treatments harder to come by because everyone's too busy trying to normalize the effects of the condition.

the most amazing thing about reading people talk about depression is reading everyone boast about how woke and nice they are and how they wish they could've been there for them but the ugly reality is people get annoyed by depressed people and just tell them to fuck off and won't give them the time of day. It's wealthy trust fund kids getting into activism by "speaking" about it and not actually cleaning up the ocean or whatever the fuck.

when you're depressed people just treat you like shit and tell you to fuck off. everyone's so caring when they hear about someone commit suicide but when a suicidal or depressed person even slightly inconveniences them that caring shit goes right out the window.

if authorities think someone is at risk of suicide they'll lock em up and treat them like a farm animal and treat them like shit.

oh yeah, mental health groups online attract sociopaths, don't ever visit one

The Etika situation is a big example of this. Before he died, everyone around him was clowning on him, annoyed that this was his third suicide baiting event. Then after he died, everyone went full "MENTAL HEALTH IS IMPORTUNT!! YOU AREN'T ALONE [insert suicide hotline number here]". Blamed cyberbullying, then went back to business as usual afterwards. Nobody learned anything.

Also, yeah, fuck the cops when it comes to mental illness. Either they shoot you dead or lock you up.

 

[Sasori of the Red Sand]

This is so tragic. It just reaffirms how much mental health can affect a person, and how hard it can be to get help.

 

[guffrey__]

This shit is never gonna change. The LGBT movement has basically locked-in the mental health crisis in America. We don't look for answers to mental diseases anymore and just call them "quirks" or some gay bullshit. People wear this shit as a badge of honor. We'll never have an answer to gender disphoria and more and more people will just cut their dicks off, regret it deeply, and then an hero. It's emblematic of our society's reaction to a tragedy stemming from mental disease: one week of "F's in chat" and "uwu so sad", then going right back to "xD I'm so crazy guys".

No one will ever learn because everyone thinks they know everything and everything is a meme.

 

[Cactus Wings]

I think the issue is that the water is already boiling and people are throwing salt in too late. Reckful was an extreme case, yes, but all the "real" issues, such as the average teenager making light of their terrible lives, has the room to be saved. Therapy? Drugs? Half the time, as Dr K states by going "this isn't therapy, just listening", is that it really just takes a person to really truly care and express as much to appear.

The 'foundation' or whatever Dr K is trying to get up is literally just the resources for other people to duplicate his role, minus the actual education. So ie. asking the right questions to make people talk and self-reflect, and less-so actual treatment. If that became the norm, you know, actually giving a shit about people, we wouldn't have this huge ordeal about mental health. It would be labeled differently. I really doubt most average people have the life of a literal sitcom, flying around to conventions and other streamers and shit. They just lack friends and thus bottle up menial problems that stack up.

I mean, go into any Discord, tactically pop open a bottle of "anyone else feeling a bit sad about life?" and suddenly you got 50 people crying about their lives, but not in a manner of needing therapy and on the verge of suicide. It really just is harder to make friends let alone worthwhile ones. I never made friends in WoW because they disappeared the second I left the guild or vice versa, and Discord is the same. One Discord can have 8 subcommunities depending on the channel. There are so many layers to dig down, and when you finally reach the bottom, you're not gonna IM someone in private and go "hey wanna be friends ".

Sure, mental health, but it's not right that we have to relate to Twitch superstars who make money sitting on their ass with the option to reach out to other famous people. Show me a case of a young adult working 9-to-5 with no friends, and without an obvious traumatic childhood. Something mundane and boring yet just slightly in the red in terms of happiness. So far, every fucking Twitch person brought up has been raped, beaten, drugged, abused, gaslighted, while having had 8 partners, 3 cars, and 2 houses. "I'm sad", yeah well okay, but how are people meant to relate? It's emotional porn. It's sob stories to feel good about ourselves. But I mean hey, that's why Dr K constantly goes "seek therapy", but again, does not fully apply to those who are just a bit unhappy and friendless.

 

[World's Smallest Violin]

I'm quite a few pages late, but let me join in on the ranting.

Spoiler: rant

It's total bullshit how people nowadays wear mental illness as a badge of honor. Everywhere on sites like Twitter and previously Tumblr, you'd see idiots with bios like "uwu i'm a bipolar autistic trans lesbian wlw demiboy enby w/ PTSD, anxiety, misophonia, delusions, violent tendencies and depression! DNI if you're a twansphobe!", hell people even tried to normalize dissociative identity disorder with that whole "multiple system" shit, where people who didn't actually have the disorder LARPed as anime and video game characters on the internet for asspats.

Meanwhile, people who actually did have the disorder had a new voice reaffirming their delusions instead of holding them to the cold hard reality that the government isn't actually out to get them, or that they aren't actually a pink pony from a children's cartoon. The saddest fucking thing is that after doing their damage, the fakers invent a way out of their supposed DiD, where their "system" of colorful cartoon characters suddenly "disbands" one. It's like kids putting their toys away after they've lost interest.

On the LGBT front, heaven-fucking-forbid anyone have a genuine discussion about transsexuality ever. You can never talk about treatment, research, or therapy for gender dysphoria or body dysmorphia, it's always "SURGERY SURGERY SURGERY!", or hell, for those who don't have the balls to go through with surgery, they must always chant the mantra,"Trans women ARE women" to reassure themselves that they are indeed their chosen gender because feelings matter more than cold hard fact. Now it's perfectly okay to let intersex children grow up mangled, with one working genital and a useless, vestigial one, Intersex pride! Stop medicalizing intersex and trans bodies!
Let's also not forget people starting to call "Sex-reassignment surgery" for trannies "Sex-reaffirming surgery". Absolutely nothing mentally wrong with them at all! Hell, we should let kids transition as early as 8, too! Perfectly normal, also, you don't need dysphoria to be trans either! Don't ever mention that 40-50% suicide rate, bigot, there's absolutely nothing wrong with encouraging this at all! Gender Euphoria!

There shouldn't be dumbasses on Twitter pushing things like "autism pride". That shit completely ignores every mid-to-low functioning person with autism, who doesn't have the luxury of living almost parallel to people without autism. It ignores autistic people have to constantly hit themselves, live in a constant state of sensory agony unable to control certain motor functions, and can only scream their lungs out in pain because they aren't able to speak or communicate verbally.
That's some shit to be prideful of, right? Definitely something the families who dedicate their lives to taking care of them find pride in, right? No need for research into medications and treatment for the sensory agony that these people feel, autistic people are just "Neurodiverse!" Autism research is oppressive!

Then there's the romanticization of suicidal thoughts and tendencies, and people doing dumb shit like attaching zodiac signs to mental illness "My sign is cancer, I'm so bipolar!" (and they genuinely mean it too, no fucking joke).

People attach self-diagnosed mental illness tags on themselves in the same way others attach five billion sexualities to themselves. To people it's something new and cute that gives them the personality they lack. This kind of behavior always leads to the new trendy in thing being watered down and delegitimized, and makes actual treatments harder to come by because everyone's too busy trying to normalize the effects of the condition.

The Etika situation is a big example of this. Before he died, everyone around him was clowning on him, annoyed that this was his third suicide baiting event. Then after he died, everyone went full "MENTAL HEALTH IS IMPORTUNT!! YOU AREN'T ALONE [insert suicide hotline number here]". Blamed cyberbullying, then went back to business as usual afterwards. Nobody learned anything.

The woke crowd taking the problems of the insecure and insane and making it all about themselves, like white girls do with BLM? Shocking. And also think of said low functioning autists who may not be able to go potty, walk or even talk. I wonder how these vatos feel knowing they have no problem keeping LF autistics in a state of weakness and somehow have the gall to paint themselves as crusaders for "good". Damn, America is cold.

 

[DumbDude42]

The woke crowd taking the problems of the insecure and insane and making it all about themselves, like white girls do with BLM? Shocking. And also think of said low functioning autists who may not be able to go potty, walk or even talk. I wonder how these vatos feel knowing they have no problem keeping LF autistics in a state of weakness and somehow have the gall to paint themselves as crusaders for "good". Damn, America is cold.

seeing lots of attention whores posting shit like
>omg havent seen my boyfriend in a month because of covid lockdown, im so depressed and totes have suicidal thoughts every day now ~tee hee~
meanwhile there are actual depressed people out there who legit haven't had a conversation with another human being for several years straight, who literally don't ever leave their fucking basements except to buy groceries once a fucking week, who live in complete filth because they have absolutely no drive or energy to take care of even the most basic chores and upkeep.

everybody who engages in this mental illness pretender game directly takes away credibility and care from people who actually do suffer from it. tumblr retards already turned the concept of "triggering" into a complete laughingstock by appropriating it for their retarded bullshittery - over time the situation with other mental illnesses will take a similar turn, and the people who are seriously affected by these illnesses will be worse off for it.

 

[BigBadgerArse]

meanwhile there are actual depressed people out there who legit haven't had a conversation with another human being for several years straight, who literally don't ever leave their fucking basements except to buy groceries once a fucking week, who live in complete filth because they have absolutely no drive or energy to take care of even the most basic chores and upkeep.

Me.

F in the chat for Reckful. Only knew him through other IRL streamers but was sad to hear he dipped out early.

 

[Bender]

Here's two blog posts that cover depression fairly well, it's not the same for everyone but it should give you a bit of insight:
Part 1
Part 2
Especially the start of the second one.

 

[Groundbreaking-maize]

everybody who engages in this mental illness pretender game directly takes away credibility and care from people who actually do suffer from it.

This needs to be on every t-shirt.

 

[Lemmingwise]

It seems like he was insufferable to be around,he used drugs all the time and didnt want any help. I watched four out of the five videos HealthyGamerGG did with him and the impression that I got is that he was low IQ,very immature for a 30 year old and that he didnt want to be helped.

I dont think its HealthyGamerGG fault that he killed himself,he was millonaire, he cloud have easily paid for the best pshycologist to help him and he cloud dedicate all of the time and resources in the world to fix his problems since he doesnt really need to work anymore. I think that at a certain point in life you need to realize how much of a mess you are and that no one wants a insufferable person around that talks all the time about how sad they are while doing nothing to fix it.

Dr K said once that society thinks that rich people are not allowed to have problems and how that is a toxic thing,but its not that they are not allowed to have problems,is that if you are a millonaire you can easily solve them.,at least much easier than someone grinding 8 to 5 for minimum wage.

As I said,I think that a certain age you need to man up,he had all the chances to do so since there were so many people trying to help him and he had all the time/money to do it,but staying in his room feeling sorry for himself was easier,very manchildish if you ask me.

I wonder what would have happened if he talked with a practised psych instead of one new fresh out of college and he did it with privacy instead of publicly.

On the one hand, streamers use streams for much of their social interaction. On the other hand it means that everything they say will follow them around forever and they're less likely to unroot the hard stuff. Also, it's different talking to an ambitious inexperienced dude or someone with the calm of experience.

co mon. you talked with the guy once and now you crying that his dead? you can be sad and pity him but cry infront of a camera for everyone to see just screams attention whore to me.

Honestly if one of my best producing cows died, I'd cry too. He isn't watching a friend die, he's watching his own career recognition die. He thought with the ambition of youth he could talk his hindu spiritualism and unpractised university degree and both save people and forge a promising career. One suicide later and he's no longer a saviour. Others will be more skittish. Suddenly he realizes the value of privacy in the psych process. It isn't just for the individual needs of the patient being treated, it's also to not freak out the others.

 

[Tachibana]

I wonder what would have happened if he talked with a practised psych instead of one new fresh out of college and he did it with privacy instead of publicly.

On the one hand, streamers use streams for much of their social interaction. On the other hand it means that everything they say will follow them around forever and they're less likely to unroot the hard stuff. Also, it's different talking to an ambitious inexperienced dude or someone with the calm of experience.



Honestly if one of my best producing cows died, I'd cry too. He isn't watching a friend die, he's watching his own career recognition die. He thought with the ambition of youth he could talk his hindu spiritualism and unpractised university degree and both save people and forge a promising career. One suicide later and he's no longer a saviour. Others will be more skittish. Suddenly he realizes the value of privacy in the psych process. It isn't just for the individual needs of the patient being treated, it's also to not freak out the others.

It is very difficult to socialize when you are a streamer. HotshotGG and some guy from Glink's content reflect the same opinion.

People in the streamer sphere are opportunists, so are the people interested in streaming. If they realize you're a popular streamer, they suddenly want you to promote their shitty stream or LPs.

Twitch spent years drilling into people's heads that networking is how you succeed and that anyone can make it, which could not be further from the truth.

They've bullshitted people into believing "community" is what Twitch is all about. Cultivating the idea that streamers are your "friends". I don't believe this to be an healthy dynamic.

Stream viewers and opportunists are the last people you want to have actual socialization with.

 

[World's Smallest Violin]

This needs to be on every t-shirt.

Think of it as the scarlet letter for the trend-hopping depressed uwu thots.

 

[DumbDude42]

Twitch spent years drilling into people's heads that networking is how you succeed and that anyone can make it, which could not be further from the truth.
They've bullshitted people into believing "community" is what Twitch is all about. Cultivating the idea that streamers are your "friends". I don't believe this to be an healthy dynamic.

building "community" is how streamers succeed, yes, but the "community" they build is basically a glorified fan club where lowlifes and losers congregate. it's a "community" of simps, suck-ups, and a few opportunists hoping to ride the coattails of a popular streamer to increase their own popularity in the process.

 

[Okuyasu Nijimura]

Damned if you do damned if you don’t, some of these fuckers need to man the fuck up and learn that nothing in this world will go your way and move on.

 

[Sensei_Chong]

I'd kill myself too if I thought I was going to get married.

 

[Alrakkan]

/bread for now.

Reckful seems like he had loads of problems that people in his surroundings and in his sphere of influence should have seen and done something about. Now the same community that told him to off himself and his people are just passing around commonly trotted out lines that have been ripped to shreds here. Twitch, YouTube, the big social media, it's all degenerate and the people here saying to stay the fuck away if you have mental problems are right on the money.

 

[j666]

Reckful Added As Rogue Trainer in Shadowlands
https://www.wowhead.com/news=317297/reckful-added-as-rogue-trainer-in-shadowlands (Archive)

a lot of people were asking for something to be added to wow in memoriam of reckful, and i guess they finally did it. i find it kinda ironic that they added him as a rogue trainer when, from my understanding, his original account was banned for using other players accounts for the purpose of leveling their characters (training in a way i guess).

 

[Exterminatus]

Yeah Reckful was originally banned for account sharing, I believe at the time he actually was streaming on twitch and everyone saw it happen, he logged into a friends account because he wanted to try out paladin in pvp, why he didn't just use a character boost and make his own paladin I have no idea. Account sharing is one of those TOS rules that Blizz will sometimes let slide but he showed it live so it kind of forced their hand, people probably reported him too to troll him.