World War 3 - Is it REALLY gonna happen?

Shokew

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I think people on the news are overreacting - if it were Clinton who had done this, people would be celebrating... And as a result - likely OK with something that awful happening between us and Russia.

I really hope nothing comes of this - we don't need a WW3, just like we (the US) didn't need a war with the Middle East!
 

Lurkman

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Why are we fighting in the middle east anyways? Like, they're just gonna destroy themselves really, we don't need to help out with the process really
 

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I don't think Syria will be the trigger, I'm more likely to say North Korea. But only if the Yanks fire first. If NK swings at Seoul or the US navy task force that's currently hanging around, I see China saying 'lol you fucked up, have fun' then learning from the failures of Europe by bolstering the border and shooting any and all refugees that come their way.
 

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It depends on what we are talking about. We have 14 SSBN Ohio class submarines and each carries 24 trident missiles, and those have 8-12 MIRV warheads. That is just ~50% of the US arsenal, with land based ICBM's and bombers making up the rest.

I think some of humanity will survive, but I also don't think the majority of people have really put the numbers together and gotten the larger picture if everyone decides to get their nuke on.

I think it is sometimes hard to grasp how destructive those forces are.
 
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There's a theory called "Thucydides Trap" which refers to when a rising power causes fear in an established power which escalates toward war. In this case its America and China. Does it have to lead to war? No. But it often does.

The problem is nobody really knows just how good or how bad China's economy is in besides China. The problem is if a war between nuclear powers happens, does it go nuclear? We've avoided this situation because basically every nuclear power fights proxy wars now. Its been done since the Cold War. Syria won't cause a World War, because its just a proxy war over spheres of influence. Territorial wars aren't really fought by nuclear powers because that's how you drag everyone in. You've got trade wars, cyber warfare, espionage. They've basically figured out ways to stay in perpetual competition without pressing the button.

The main problems are two-fold: DPRK and the South China Sea. Its only a matter of time before the DPRK collapses in on itself or there's a verge of a coup happening. Or that they just lose their minds and launch an actual nuke. We've allegedly infiltrated their infrastructure completely, but the US now wants the situation resolved. People are tired of their shit. If China goes to bat for them (I admit this is unlikely as a DPRK with ICBMs won't be tolerated by pretty much anybody) and someone gets nuked in the end, people could be pissed off enough to blame China for it. That escalates into trade wars and outright conflict over the South China Sea.

If the DPRK is resolved, you still have the South China Sea. Which pretty much nobody knows how to handle. One the one hand, nobody wants to go to war over it. On the other, nobody is really comfortable with China controlling such an important trading route. Its really easy for a misunderstanding to happen, but I doubt it. China is already paranoid about being surrounded by so many US Allies. Maybe they can be bought off by saying 'Kill the DPRK and you can keep the shitty Korea as a buffer'.
 

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