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I don't know how muslims treat halal, but...

You can't "cheat" your way out of kosherness. They acknowledge that the whole point of it is to keep an oath, not any deep metaphysical meaning. It might end up being kosher from a halachic perspective, but it might not be kosher from a hashkafic perspective. But it's hard to pin down, because it's based on intent. Are you eating kosher turkey bacon specifically to get around the dietary laws but have bacon? That's bad. If you're hungry, and someone offers you a turkey bacon sandwich? That might be okay.

Although it would depend on which group of jews you were talking about. There isn't always consensus.

For some of them, even if it wasn't a "cheat", it would fall afoul of maras ayin, the idea that you're not supposed to "muddy the waters" to outsiders. Basically, if someone could look at what you're doing, and say "Hey, you're eating bacon! I thought you couldn't eat bacon!", then you're in the wrong. Except if you're not, because like with halachic/haskhafic, there are exceptions. Is the practice common enough people could reasonably not assume you're violating the dietary laws? Then it's okay again. For example, non-dairy milk and other non-dairy creamers are common enough that having coffee with non-dairy whitener after your otherwise-kosher dinner is fine, because people wouldn't see whitened coffee and necessarily automatically assume it was actually milk. On the other hand, vegan cheese is still uncommon enough a cheeseburger might be forbidden, even if you made it with kosher vegan cheese.

Also there's disagreement on whether or not maras ayin applies all the time, or only in public.

TL;DR: It's complicated!
Meanwhile, NYC Jews think they're tricking God by putting a string around their neighborhoods. Doesn't really seem like they're terribly concerned with keeping their oath if they're willing to use such an incredibly flimsy excuse not to observe the Sabbath, which is supposedly the holiest day in Judaism.

Then again, it's NYC. Being a selfish hypocrite is step one in being a Real New Yorker®.
 

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Meanwhile, NYC Jews think they're tricking God by putting a string around their neighborhoods. Doesn't really seem like they're terribly concerned with keeping their oath if they're willing to use such an incredibly flimsy excuse not to observe the Sabbath, which is supposedly the holiest day in Judaism.

Then again, it's NYC. Being a selfish hypocrite is step one in being a Real New Yorker®.

New York Jews are their own particular subset of Judaism.
 

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The world's first 3D bioprinted and cultivated ribeye steak was made without genetic engineering. Created by Aleph Farms Ltd. and the Faculty of Biomedical Engineering at the Technion – Israel Institute of Technology, the steak also did not require the slaughter of any animals.

This makes me wonder - will lab-grown meat cut down on Co2 emissions as livestock herds would be decreased, or will the fake meat produce more Co2 emissions as it would take more energy in labs to grow it? And what class of people do you think will be eating this?

:thinking:


And it looks... delicious...
ehh, I've seen worse
my main concerns would be how it cooks/tastes and how it costs
like how farm tilapia is supposed to be so much greener or whatever but that shitfish costs as much as cow
 

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I don't know how muslims treat halal, but...

You can't "cheat" your way out of kosherness. They acknowledge that the whole point of it is to keep an oath, not any deep metaphysical meaning. It might end up being kosher from a halachic perspective, but it might not be kosher from a hashkafic perspective. But it's hard to pin down, because it's based on intent. Are you eating kosher turkey bacon specifically to get around the dietary laws but have bacon? That's bad. If you're hungry, and someone offers you a turkey bacon sandwich? That might be okay.

Although it would depend on which group of jews you were talking about. There isn't always consensus.

For some of them, even if it wasn't a "cheat", it would fall afoul of maras ayin, the idea that you're not supposed to "muddy the waters" to outsiders. Basically, if someone could look at what you're doing, and say "Hey, you're eating bacon! I thought you couldn't eat bacon!", then you're in the wrong. Except if you're not, because like with halachic/haskhafic, there are exceptions. Is the practice common enough people could reasonably not assume you're violating the dietary laws? Then it's okay again. For example, non-dairy milk and other non-dairy creamers are common enough that having coffee with non-dairy whitener after your otherwise-kosher dinner is fine, because people wouldn't see whitened coffee and necessarily automatically assume it was actually milk. On the other hand, vegan cheese is still uncommon enough a cheeseburger might be forbidden, even if you made it with kosher vegan cheese.

Also there's disagreement on whether or not maras ayin applies all the time, or only in public.

TL;DR: It's complicated!
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Given the amount of range land on the planet that is suitable for raising livestock, this should be a non-starter if there was any sanity.
With that said.
I can see how this sort of technology might be viable for astronaut pioneers who are colonizing the Moon or Mars or wherever.
 

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will lab-grown meat cut down on Co2 emissions as livestock herds would be decreased
No. Livestock are basically playing with house money. The carbon they release into the air is coming from the plants they eat. The carbon in the plants they eat is coming from the air. It doesn't matter if it's a cow eating the grass or if it's bugs or bacteria. That carbon's going back into the air eventually. And it will be soaked back up when the grass regrows.
 

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Meanwhile, NYC Jews think they're tricking God by putting a string around their neighborhoods. Doesn't really seem like they're terribly concerned with keeping their oath if they're willing to use such an incredibly flimsy excuse not to observe the Sabbath, which is supposedly the holiest day in Judaism.

Then again, it's NYC. Being a selfish hypocrite is step one in being a Real New Yorker®.
Jewish law is all about Jewing G-d. I mean look at all this!


So yes, expect some rabbi to say "3D printed pork is okay with G-d".
 

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The world's first 3D bioprinted and cultivated ribeye steak was made without genetic engineering. Created by Aleph Farms Ltd. and the Faculty of Biomedical Engineering at the Technion – Israel Institute of Technology, the steak also did not require the slaughter of any animals.

This makes me wonder - will lab-grown meat cut down on Co2 emissions as livestock herds would be decreased, or will the fake meat produce more Co2 emissions as it would take more energy in labs to grow it? And what class of people do you think will be eating this?

:thinking:


And it looks... delicious...
Why does the meat look like it has vitiligo? What kinda crap did they put in it?

I don't know what kind of magic goes on during the (sun + soil)->plant->animal->dinner process to make your steak taste so delicious but suffice to say, we are nowhere near close to replicating that sorcery in a lab.
Meanwhile, NYC Jews think they're tricking God by putting a string around their neighborhoods. Doesn't really seem like they're terribly concerned with keeping their oath if they're willing to use such an incredibly flimsy excuse not to observe the Sabbath, which is supposedly the holiest day in Judaism.

Then again, it's NYC. Being a selfish hypocrite is step one in being a Real New Yorker®.
Half of Judaism are laws that Jews are supposed to live by, the other half are step-by-step guides on how to cheat those laws. It's probably the only religion I've ever seen where the adherents are actively encouraged to try and BS God. It's actually kind of fascinating.
 
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I didn't know jews were such anal retards about the rules, and it the rules don't work for them they got sly ways to get around them. No wonder a lot of them are lawyers lol.
The Old Testament is in large part a history of the Jew's attempts to find "sly ways" around the rules. It's never ended well for them but, bless their hearts, that won't stop them from trying.
 

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It's true. Most vegans nowadays aren't in it for any ethical or moral reasons; they just want that feeling of superiority and/or victimhood they can get out of it. The only vegans I know who aren't assholes about it are the ones who are due to health reasons (as in, their body can't break down animal protein well or something like that).
I dunno about most vegans. I've never met one who wasn't an asshole either but the non-asshole version is significantly less likely to mention it so we can't take a tally.
 

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Meanwhile, NYC Jews think they're tricking God by putting a string around their neighborhoods. Doesn't really seem like they're terribly concerned with keeping their oath if they're willing to use such an incredibly flimsy excuse not to observe the Sabbath, which is supposedly the holiest day in Judaism.

Then again, it's NYC. Being a selfish hypocrite is step one in being a Real New Yorker®.

So what happens if someone sneaks up and cuts the wire? Do thousands of Jews now suddenly go to Hell for breaking Shabbat rules. (Also, I now want to start a Jewish Metal band called Black Shabbat)? I mean, I presume the Jewish people don't think God will strike them down for someone else messing with them. But if they don't then they're saying there's nothing inherently wrong with what they're doing and it's all about Virtue Signalling.

Frankly, I don't think this is going to matter outside of some excited debating by Rabbis. The Muslims? Sure - for them it will matter but I'm quite certain that plenty of Jewish people slyly eat pork. There's even a famous joke about a Rabbi being spotted on holiday by one of his parishoners in a restaurant just as they bring out a giant roast pig's head. "Are you seeing this, Yuri? I order an apple and look how they serve it!"
 

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ehh, I've seen worse
my main concerns would be how it cooks/tastes and how it costs
like how farm tilapia is supposed to be so much greener or whatever but that shitfish costs as much as cow
tilapia is unhealthy shit fish
And taste like unhealthy farmed shit fish because it is
 

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