Would you consider the whole Jeff/Francine Fiasco to be a "Saga" -

Would you consider the whole Jeff/Francine Fiasco to be a "Saga"

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In mid November, Chris uploaded "Doxing Jeff/Francine". He proceeded to say how "HE wasn't transitioning well". Chris told him to cut him in on the "profits" of Jeff's store and to cease production of his CWC Adult Chronicles game. In this video, Chris spews a slew of derogatory statements directed at Jeff/Francine, including calling him a "Ladyman"


Two days later, Chris made a video telling everybody (Specifically game developers) "Don't trust a fake in Seattle." He then proceeds to explain that Sonichu is "his creation" and that JEFF is not the creator of Sonichu. He then goes on to rant about how JEFF is not a "female soul" even though he "had his balls chopped off and is now sounding like a high pitched choir boy."


A day after that, he made a video talking about how JEFF wrote an apology to Chris, and proceeded to read it out aloud. The letter played into Chris's ego perfectly, and Chris proceeds to say "how much better of a person JEFF is now". In the apology, JEFF says that he will mail Chris a check of $100,000.


After this, most people assumed that this was the last we will ever hear off JEFF, and that Chris would simply forget about the check. However recently, a video was uploaded of Chris bantering on about how he was upset that the check wasn't in the mail yet and telling people "not to go to" JEFF's slumber party, as he was just doing it to copy him. The video was however, quite unfortunately, taken down.

Link to forum post on video


On the 17th of November, Chris uploads yet another video regarding JEFF. In this video, he proceeds to sarcastically retract his stance on telling people to not go to the party (Which is strange, in that Chris does not usually use sarcasm). He describes JEFF's party as "totally off the hook" in his spergic voice and tells people "They should totally go to the party".


So what do you guys think? Is this a saga, or merely the beginning of one? Or is this just some one-off fiasco that won't be relevant in a month? One thing is for sure; as of writing this post, it is likely we will hear of JEFF again.
 
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Jeff/Francine is a Kiwi Farms user known as "Maple". He has been developing the CWC Adults Chronicle game.

In mid November, Chris uploaded "Doxing Jeff/Francine". He proceeded to say how "HE wasn't transitioning well". Chris told him to cut him in on the "profits" of Jeff's store and to cease production of his CWC Adult Chronicles game. In this video, Chris spews a slew of derogatory statements directed at Jeff/Francine, including calling him a "Ladyman"


Two days later, Chris made a video telling everybody (Specifically game developers) "Don't trust a fake in Seattle." He then proceeds to explain that Sonichu is "his creation" and that JEFF is not the creator of Sonichu. He then goes on to rant about how JEFF is not a "female soul" even though he "had his balls chopped off and is now sounding like a high pitched choir boy."


A day after that, he made a video talking about how JEFF wrote an apology to Chris, and proceeded to read it out aloud. The letter played into Chris's ego perfectly, and Chris proceeds to say "how much better of a person JEFF is now". In the apology, JEFF says that he will mail Chris a check of $100,000.


After this, most people assumed that this was the last we will ever hear off JEFF, and that Chris would simply forget about the check. However recently, a video was uploaded of Chris bantering on about how he was upset that the check wasn't in the mail yet and telling people "not to go to" JEFF's slumber party, as he was just doing it to copy him. The video was however, quite unfortunately, taken down.

Link to forum post on video


On the 17th of November, Chris uploads yet another video regarding JEFF. In this video, he proceeds to sarcastically retract his stance on telling people to not go to the party (Which is strange, in that Chris does not usually use sarcasm). He describes JEFF's party as "totally off the hook" in his spergic voice and tells people "They should totally go to the party".


So what do you guys think? Is this a saga, or merely the beginning of one? Or is this just some one-off fiasco that won't be relevant in a month? One thing is for sure; as of writing this post, it is likely we will hear of JEFF again.


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I think whether or not something's a "Saga", it's decided in retrospect after the events can be placed in a timeline and it's been established that it's 1. both significant enough to stand out and 2. has a clear timeline of events dotted along it and 3. contains some sort of conflict. As it's happening it's best just to enjoy content as it truds along. I think that as far as content is concerned, it can be considered a "Saga" by the CWCki standards*.

For example, a period of where Chris makes an instagram account and shares pictures of mundane things there isn't probably a "Saga" even if it had a clear start and end date if there isn't any conflict or anything particularly interesting. The Jeff / Francine thing has conflict, it's got interesting events going for it and a high volume of what can be considered prime Chris content.*

*This is merely an opinion by someone who isn't any form of authority on the CWCki nor an editor.
 

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Were getting videos of smug superior chris and its generating plenty of discussion about Chris attitude towards fellow trans women.
All Jeff has to do is poke chris a little every now and then and chris will resort to ridiculous demands and crazed facial expressions.

At the moment this is a source of content, hardly a saga.
 

Dr.Research

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I think the term saga is overused.
Saga itself is defined as "a long, involved story, account, or series of incidents" (says google) so I'd say it takes more than just youtube videos to qualify. Look at some other bonafide sagas: Megan, Liquid, even Tomgirl. What do they have in common? They all have various elements and a particular flavor to them. Just making YouTube videos doesn't quite cut it, IMO.

This could possibly blossom into a full on saga, but I highly doubt it. It may just drain away like so many McDonald sweet teas into Chris's gut.
 

Clown Doll

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Catherine was only successful releasing some e-mails, texts and audio files. Maybe I'm greedy but I just want moar.
I'd say that the Catherine date transcripts, the (few) videos and so on did provide a lot of interesting insight in terms of how Chris behaves on IRL dates, the situation with the Chandler home and how he acts in a "relationship" post-Tomgirl. The whole "Catherine" thing was the only time Chris has been even on simulated dates with the exception of Emily so it was definitely worthwhile information in my opinion.
 

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I'd say that the Catherine date transcripts, the (few) videos and so on did provide a lot of interesting insight in terms of how Chris behaves on IRL dates, the situation with the Chandler home and how he acts in a "relationship" post-Tomgirl. The whole "Catherine" thing was the only time Chris has been even on simulated dates with the exception of Emily so it was definitely worthwhile information in my opinion.

I agree with you there but wheres the lulz, you know? Wheres stuff like the phone calls, the mumble chats, Chris believing outrageous stuff? I want to see some hilarious stuff again.
 

Sir Walter Raleigh

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Well, you have a bunch of douchebags manipulating Chris into further acts of humiliation and debasement and then hiding most of the sweet, sweet content from us so, yeah, I guess it is saga if you absolutely need qualifiers for something as stupid as setting up a retard to do stupid shit for our amusement.
 
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