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More and more I think about it the WWE is fucking Sting up worse than Nick Patrick did in Starcade '97. They refuse to use his epic entrance music, which they used in the WWE '15 commercial, they refuse to refer to him as "the Icon" but as the "Vigilante" (but if he's a vigilante, why is he letting the damn dirty heels get away with their shenanigans?), they signed him to only six appearances when they should be showing shots of him staring down from the rafters, they rarely refer to his history as the guy who took on the NWO by himself and THERE WAS NO REASON FOR HIM INTERFERE IN THAT MATCH!?!?! Like wtf was he doing at Survivor Series? He has zero history with HHH unless he jobbed to Sting back in his WCW days and his career has never crossed with any member of Team Cena. It just doesn't make any sense.
First and foremost I'm of the opinion that Daniel Bryan has to win the rumble. Any babyface who wins it apart from him is getting the Batista treatment yet again. Maybe Titty Master or Ziggles can get away with it but if Brock retains (which he should) You don't really want Ziggler in there with him and Ambrose would need to have been seriously built up to take on Lesnar and they've done anything but.
That really only leaves Bryan. Not to mention hes gonna be the most over guy in that building hands down.
So my predictions for WM 31:
Bryan vs Lesnar. Utimate david vs goliath.
Sting vs. HHH probably. Even though the real money is in Sting vs. Taker.
An NXT call up. Maybe Neville or Sami Zayn. But I can't shake this feeling that Tyler Breeze is on his way to the main roster.
Thats all I got right now.
That really only leaves Bryan. Not to mention hes gonna be the most over guy in that building hands down.
So my predictions for WM 31:
Bryan vs Lesnar. Utimate david vs goliath.
Sting vs. HHH probably. Even though the real money is in Sting vs. Taker.
An NXT call up. Maybe Neville or Sami Zayn. But I can't shake this feeling that Tyler Breeze is on his way to the main roster.
Thats all I got right now.
I'm actually of the opinion that Cena or Rollins is going to have the straps for WM which would make a good Reigns match, but if not I think Ambrose will be going against Rollins or Rusev, especially after last night, but I still think Ryback will be the one to get the US title next. Ambrose will probably eliminate Rusev at the rumble. What I hope they do with Ambrose is a redemption story, because he's lost a lot in his last two feuds, and he still is someone I consider to be one of the better work horses. I think my top to win the royal rumble is now as followed:
1) Reigns: he's not as involved in the authority story line as Bryan, so that eliminates most feuds he'd be in and frees him up. Only problem is nobody cares enough about him right now so he may end up doing something else. Terrible on the mic and they need to stop scripting his promos because he sounds like a retard when he says them.
2) Bryan: Still riding on heat from last year, huge pop last night (But he also rode on Ambrose's coattails with the Hooooooo!! call last night), still has a lot of ring presence with very little signs of ring rust.
3) The Titty Master: God damn his clothes line and flying elbows. Every time he shows up he gets a huge pop (not even cheap ones), he is really good on the mic and can hold together a long segment as shown by last nights hilarious psychologist segment. He also is in need of a redemption story line.
4) Ziggler: He has so much backing right now. He works hard, but the problem is he's kind of a flat character due to him being a face. He does need something to come back on though, but that will more than likely be the IC title. (They've already shown they don't care about BNB having it anyways.)
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No doubt about it. As much as they want Roman Reigns to be "the future", I have a feeling the crowd will shit all over him if he wins the Rumble over Daniel Bryan.
Uhhh...
What do y- you mean... uhhh...
Ramr- uh... Romuhn uhhhh.. Reigns is er.... uhh.... the fixtiu- uhhh..
THE FUTURE OF FIST yeah
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Just to add to the discussion, there was an ad for a house show in February that advertised Cena as the WWE Champion. Might be a spoiler for the Rumble.
I think that's their default setting for house show ads tbh. I've seen it falsely listed on them before.
Give me a Shield three way match (with the belt on the line?) and I'll be one happy camper.
They could end it by having ambrose and reigns eliminate each other at the same time at the rumble, leading to a triple threat at WM... I still have high hopes that either Ambrose or Ziggler will win RR. To me though, Reigns doesn't have it. I don't know what it is but Reigns is missing it... It allows you to be a big star as a wrestler even if you lose a bunch. Cena, Ziggler, Orton, and now Ambrose and Rollins have it, but Reigns (while great in the ring) seems to lack the thing that puts asses in the seats. Whether it's mic skills, likability, the ability to relate to the character.... I don't know, but I just don't think Reigns will be as big as Ambrose and Rollins.
Reigns great in the ring? We must be subscribing to different opinions on what is considered great in ring. What Reigns has is DA LOOK and some charisma. His ring work is horrid in my opinion. But a factor in his shoddy ring work is as you said that people can't relate to the guy which makes his FIP moments not connect.
But he is the golden boy so he will be pushed no matter what we think until he crashes and all that is left is beautiful Seth Rollins.
But he is the golden boy so he will be pushed no matter what we think until he crashes and all that is left is beautiful Seth Rollins.
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I think the problem with Reigns is people are afraid he will be the next Cena, and no matter who it is, no one wants another Cena situation where there is one top guy for over 10 years, and that the one guy never changes, no heel turns, no real changes in character, just staleness. Cena is representative of what has been the Dark Ages of professional wrestling in my opinion, and it isn't all his fault. He isn't a bad guy, he works damn hard, just he represents the half-assed booking the past 10 years, fair or not. And what people fear is Reigns being Cena Part II. So Reigns has been turned on. it isn't him, it is the system.
And that he's beeing booked completely wrong in ring is also a factor.
Why they've taken to booking him as a power house without a power move set is beyond me. He should be booked in ring like cousin Dwayne, a big guy with surprising athleticism.
I mean, this guy can do HBK style kip ups.
Why they've taken to booking him as a power house without a power move set is beyond me. He should be booked in ring like cousin Dwayne, a big guy with surprising athleticism.
I mean, this guy can do HBK style kip ups.
Reigns is in the same position The Great Kali was in at one point in his career. He's not as bad as Kali... but that's where he's at. Hopefully he improves some.
I actually have to agree with this. Ambrose and Rollins remind me of a lot of the older heels and faces (Rollins especially reminds me of Edge, but I doubt everyone sees that), and I think that's the reason I actually like them. They're different than most of the stuff on the program. They even let Ambrose win against Cena.... and have a face v face feud with Cena where most people actively were cheering Ambrose.
I don't think that's true. If you listen to him talk at stuff like the 2k14 roster reveal or the Raw aftermath bits, where he's unscripted, he has a very cool, dry wit that makes him very likable. It's the scripted promos he's bad at and that's not really a surprise.
I don't catch much of WWE, so I usually miss the EU stuff. In those is he "Roman Reigns, superman punching succotash sufferer BELIEVE THAT" or "Leati Anoa'i, sports entertainer who is off the clock and kicking back"?
He's still introduced as Roman Reigns in all these things, and he's talking about Wrestleman Stuff when he does it. It's the whole scripted promo thing that killed a lot of guys. I think it was Ric Flair who said he didn't think he could get over if he'd had to stick to a script all that time.
Some guys excel with scripts, like Titus O'Neil, who is entertaining when given a script. But when he went down to NXT for a short stint where they don't use scripts he bombed faster than a hippo falling out of a helicopter.
On the other side of the spectrum is Tyson Kidd, who sucked with scripted material. But when he got sent down to NXT he developed a way to showcase his charisma and his snotty, riding on his wife's coattails gimmick and got a lot more over and got a main roster push out of it.
Then we have guys like Rollins, who seem to end up in between, where the scripts have helped him become a lot of a better speaker (anyone seen one of his Tyler Black promos? Awful) to the point where he now seemingly is at least decent free style and good enough a talker to spar with Heyman and HHH.
And then there's Bray Wyat, who has developed the artform of saying the same thing promo after promo but in different ways.
On the other side of the spectrum is Tyson Kidd, who sucked with scripted material. But when he got sent down to NXT he developed a way to showcase his charisma and his snotty, riding on his wife's coattails gimmick and got a lot more over and got a main roster push out of it.
Then we have guys like Rollins, who seem to end up in between, where the scripts have helped him become a lot of a better speaker (anyone seen one of his Tyler Black promos? Awful) to the point where he now seemingly is at least decent free style and good enough a talker to spar with Heyman and HHH.
And then there's Bray Wyat, who has developed the artform of saying the same thing promo after promo but in different ways.
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