WrestleMania XXXI -

[XYZpdq]

He's still introduced as Roman Reigns in all these things, and he's talking about Wrestleman Stuff when he does it. It's the whole scripted promo thing that killed a lot of guys. I think it was Ric Flair who said he didn't think he could get over if he'd had to stick to a script all that time.

But I mean, how is he carrying himself? Is it in a manner relevant to portraying a character who wants to wrestle another person or can he only talk intelligibly when it's "oh yeah that new video game's cool"?

Regarding scripts in general it also probably helps if they don't constantly rewrite them at the last minute like the legends say.

 

[GS 281]

Some guys excel with scripts, like Titus O'Neil, who is entertaining when given a script. But when he went down to NXT for a short stint where they don't use scripts he bombed faster than a hippo falling out of a helicopter.

On the other side of the spectrum is Tyson Kidd, who sucked with scripted material. But when he got sent down to NXT he developed a way to showcase his charisma and his snotty, riding on his wife's coattails gimmick and got a lot more over and got a main roster push out of it.

Then we have guys like Rollins, who seem to end up in between, where the scripts have helped him become a lot of a better speaker (anyone seen one of his Tyler Black promos? Awful) to the point where he now seemingly is at least decent free style and good enough a talker to spar with Heyman and HHH.

And then there's Bray Wyat, who has developed the artform of saying the same thing promo after promo but in different ways.

I am of the belief that at WM Seth Rollins will be placed with Paul Heyman. If this happens, Seth Rollins will be only 1-2 notches below CM Punk in a year's time. Maybe 3-4 notches, but he will be top tier for what they currently have.

BTW, agree 100% on Titus. I usually hate on big men getting pushes because they are big, but I like him. He can be funny in spots. Probably delivered the funniest promo in years on RAW with D Young a few years back...

 

[CornetteFace]

I am of the belief that at WM Seth Rollins will be placed with Paul Heyman. If this happens, Seth Rollins will be only 1-2 notches below CM Punk in a year's time. Maybe 3-4 notches, but he will be top tier for what they currently have.

BTW, agree 100% on Titus. I usually hate on big men getting pushes because they are big, but I like him. He can be funny in spots. Probably delivered the funniest promo in years on RAW with D Young a few years back...

His name is Pancake Patterson, and he flattens fools!

Seth Rollins is already on the top of the card imo. He's the top heel working a full time schedule (not counting HHH since he doesn't compete). But yeah, him siding with Heyman seems probable. what would be delicious would be if by doing so, Seth also brought the Authority to destruction somehow, further selling how Seth is the most despicable and smartest man on the roster. HHH and Edge combined.

And back when the Shield was a thing so many people said he was the cast off member, now look at the lad.

 

[GS 281]

Agreed on all points, however I don't see him as being a true "number one heel" just yet. He is missing that one moment where he does something not only dastardly but it all culminates into him achieving a major goal. I see that happening at WM. Something tells me him and D-Bry are in for an amazing run for the next year at one another.

 

[CornetteFace]

Agreed on all points, however I don't see him as being a true "number one heel" just yet. He is missing that one moment where he does something not only dastardly but it all culminates into him achieving a major goal. I see that happening at WM. Something tells me him and D-Bry are in for an amazing run for the next year at one another.

Him nonchalantly saying he was going to kill Edge wasn't dastardly enough? But I get what you are saying.

Depends on if they will do Rollins stuff on Smackdown going forward or not. Since Bryan has apparently put in a claim to be the new "face of Smackdown" since they are going to put more effort into the blue brand now and also implement some kind of brand split again.

 

[GS 281]

I think they are due for a re-boot on the brand split, but make it a bit softer when it comes to championships, however I would love if the IC and US titles became the RAW and Smackdown titles, with there just being one championship. The new belt is hideous, though. Not as bad as the spinner, but it is just horrible. I would like to see a return to the Eagle belt, but they are all about branding.

One thing I would LOVE is for NXT to replace the first hour of RAW. I'd rather watch Sami Zayn and Tyler Breeze or The Vaudevillians and Enzo and Big Cass over anything on RAW. Plus them Divas on NXT can fucking go. Sasha Banks is bad ass... Bayley is awesome... Charlotte is okay, I shouldn't like hearing her go "Wooo!" as much as I do though...

 

[CornetteFace]

I'm all for bringing prestige to the belts. It's a story driven show sure, but in the context of the world they present, shouldn't the titles mean something? And at least a less restricted brand split, allowing talent from either show to show up on the other from time to time and have some cross over talent, would be great.

But I don't want NXT to replace the first hour of RAW, because I don't trust McMahon with the NXT talent.

On the topic of the big belt: I like the design, but it was something that grew on me. God know we had a lot of discussions about it over on the wrestling forum that I admin. Still doesn't beat either of the big IWGP belts or the ROH belt but it is a okay belt.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Looks like Ric Flair agrees with you, Ambrose. He picked the Titty Master to win the rumble.

In other news I'm gonna meet Daniel Bryan on Saturday and I am hype.

 

[TM Ambrose]

Looks like Ric Flair agrees with you, Ambrose. He picked the Titty Master to win the rumble.

In other news I'm gonna meet Daniel Bryan on Saturday and I am hype.

Dat pop when he said it.

 

[GS 281]

Wow... Have fun with that @Chuggernaut. I wouldn't mind seeing Ambrose win it, and I could see him possibly winning it if a WM main event wasn't on the line, but I don't think that he has the history for it yet. I see a World Title run in his future, however not in the next few years. I keep bouncing between Reigns and Bryan winning it. I don't think Reigns is ready either, but WWE is WWE. Either way, whoever wins it Rollins is going to have a long program with until SummerSlam or longer as Rollins will cash in after the main event.

 

[Frank Rizzo]

So according to sources, Vinnie Mac is apparently already pulling the plug on The Ascension's push.

Goes to show how apparently one promo can mess up your momentum pretty badly.

 

[CornetteFace]

So according to sources, Vinnie Mac is apparently already pulling the plug on The Ascension's push.

Goes to show how apparently one promo can mess up your momentum pretty badly.

or if the rumors are true. Coming from NXT.

Kevin "bucktooth" Dunn apparently hate the NXT talents for being Triple H projects. Because of supposed heat between Dunn and Trips

 

[XYZpdq]

or if the rumors are true. Coming from NXT.

Kevin "bucktooth" Dunn apparently hate the NXT talents for being Triple H projects. Because of supposed heat between Dunn and Trips

Dunn's shit, sure, but the little bit I saw of the Ascension when I've caught NXT didn't really look any better then they've turned out on Raw.

 

[CatParty]

konnor got fat. they also need to lay it in more and look realistic on their offense

 

[CornetteFace]

Dunn's shit, sure, but the little bit I saw of the Ascension when I've caught NXT didn't really look any better then they've turned out on Raw.

I like them. They are a simple tag team in an era of tag teams who often are complex and over complicated. Like the Young bucks show off gimmicks or ReDragons MMA douchebag/Hipster gimmicks. The Ascension just want to fuck shit up and I like that.

Not to mention I pop for the shoulder pads and face paint. They need a manager ala Hellwig and make it the complete package. Hamm it up real nice.

 

[GS 281]

I suspect I am in the minority on this one, but I think Zayn and Neville would be an awesome tag team. Neville sells very well and Zayn has amazing offense. A helluva kick followed by a Red Arrow would be an awesome finish. If the tag team division wasn't complete shit it would be an awesome place for them to start getting over. I think Neville is talented, but I don't see him getting to the main event. Zayn I can see being Ziggler-class and possibly pushing over the top.

 

[CatParty]

okay now i am somewhat interested in wmxxxi
http://whatculture.com/wwe/wwe-rumour-brock-lesnar-stormed-out-over-roman-reigns-drug-test.php

 

[Francis York Morgan]

They are a simple tag team in an era of tag teams who often are complex and over complicated. Like the Young bucks show off gimmicks

How are the Young Bucks complicated? It's just approx. 14 superkicks a match and after every third or fourth move, they tell someone to suck it. Pretty straightforward to me.

It's the Ascension I don't get. Why are they called The Ascension? What are they ascending to? Why do their entrance video and gear have so many occult symbols randomly thrown in? Are they part of the Illuminati? Why are they now the Road Warriors? Why does their finisher suck? Why is this team on the main roster?

 

[Le Bateleur]

How are the Young Bucks complicated? It's just approx. 14 superkicks a match and after every third or fourth move, they tell someone to suck it. Pretty straightforward to me.

It's the Ascension I don't get. Why are they called The Ascension? What are they ascending to? Why do their entrance video and gear have so many occult symbols randomly thrown in? Are they part of the Illuminati? Why are they now the Road Warriors? Why does their finisher suck? Why is this team on the main roster?

Yeah, I don't get The Ascension either. Like so many things in the current WWE, I kind of just attribute their push to Vince's creeping dementia. Fall of Man always looked awkward to me, and they seem to have got sloppier at hitting it since they reached the main roster.

 

[XYZpdq]

Why is this team on the main roster?

I think HHH is trying to wait out Vince and is only moving the doomed guys to the main roster.

And oh doublepluslol if that's why BRAWWWWWWK LEZZZZZZNARRRRRRRRR left.