Wuhan Coronavirus: Hoarders and Assholes -

[Pargon]

I don't understand the panic buying of cases upon cases of bottled water. This isn't a hurricane, dipshits.

It doesn't hurt. You can flush a toilet with it in a pinch, or take a trucker's shower. You might not think you'd need it but people who run things like water treatment plants are skilled and replacing them if they get sick isn't an immediate option. That's all it takes for water rationing to start in many places in the country.

 

[AmpleApricots]

The nice old neighbor lady of mine hoarded supplies for a month in the last few weeks, carrying as much as she could (supermarket in walking distance and no car, she's 80 and alone) I can fully understand these people buying so much and wanting to avoid going outside for a while. They might also not want to rely on strangers helping them if things get bad, which I fully can understand too. On top of that, they might also just be scared. Wouldn't you be if you were an 80 year old woman with no kids or relatives close by in such a situation? Please remember that not all hoarders are scum in this situation. I have to admit I didn't really see it from that angle before I talked to her.

In Germany the hoarding has gone down noticeably and some of my friends who went shopping said their local supermarkets were full again. My government ran some statistics that indicated to me that apparently toilet paper wasn't insanely high in demand, (the demand DID double, but not triple and more like other products) it was more the supply chain being totally blind-sided by the sudden event. The US is a bit behind of the curve of things happening, I'm sure stores your stores will be full again soon, there's no way any western country will run out of food inside of two weeks. Of course the empty shelves add to the fear but I'd relax. I've seen panic store buys/hoarding because of global events before. They do pass and this situation isn't unprecedented in the US either, most of you just weren't alive to see it happening before.

 

[StrawberryDouche]

It doesn't hurt. You can flush a toilet with it in a pinch, or take a trucker's shower. You might not think you'd need it but people who run things like water treatment plants are skilled and replacing them if they get sick isn't an immediate option. That's all it takes for water rationing to start in many places in the country.

I would agree if public utilities were being incapacitated around the world or even in just one place, but they aren't and they haven't.

 

[large_farva]

Corona Virus Assholes, Rent Strike Edition

Across the country, calls for rent strikes are being organized (archive) fucking teen vogue
and one exceptional individual is trying to organize his very own.
https://fox2now.com/news/st-louis-tenants-organizing-rent-strike-because-of-covid-19/ (archive)

Fox News interviewed this man and his efforts to organize a rent strike for the city of St. Louis.
Meet Kyle Kofron:

Judging from his mugshot, one can only assume he is a model tenant.

And oh, look, he is:

Man Attacked Roommate at Park Ashwood in St. Charles County, Deputy Says

Kyle Kofron is accused of punching and choking the woman and pounding her head on the floor.

patch.com

http://archive.md/QxYva
(archive)
He also has a restraining order

and a judgement from a credit union:

Kyle Kofron, a renter, is clear – due to hardship with COVID-19, he doesn’t plan on paying his rent come the first of the month.
This effort to stiff the landlords comes as a response to the hardships the coronavirus is putting people who are now without a steady income.
Even though Congress has a $1,200 check being sent to most Americans—at some point in the future—critics say that’s just not enough.

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The moratorium only protects FHA and HUD loans, which make up about 65% of mortgages. (archive) Rental property cannot be bought using FHA or HUD loans, rental property is not covered by this moratorium. Courts are shut down on a local level and landlords cannot file an eviction. That means as soon as the courts re-open, they CAN file evictions if you've been a model tenant like Kyle here.

Tenants stop paying rent > landlord cannot pay mortgage > bank forecloses >bank evicts tenants, landlord can't help now.
Nevermind maintenance, insurance, taxes, water/sewer/trash and whatever employees they had.

Just fucking talk to your landlord.

 

[Francis E. Dec Esc.]

Corona Virus Assholes, Rent Strike Edition

Across the country, calls for rent strikes are being organized (archive) fucking teen vogue
and one exceptional individual is trying to organize his very own.
https://fox2now.com/news/st-louis-tenants-organizing-rent-strike-because-of-covid-19/ (archive)

Fox News interviewed this man and his efforts to organize a rent strike for the city of St. Louis.
Meet Kyle Kofron:
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Judging from his mugshot, one can only assume he is a model tenant.
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And oh, look, he is:

Man Attacked Roommate at Park Ashwood in St. Charles County, Deputy Says

Kyle Kofron is accused of punching and choking the woman and pounding her head on the floor.

patch.com

http://archive.md/QxYva
(archive)
He also has a restraining order
View attachment 1204753
and a judgement from a credit union:
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The moratorium only protects FHA and HUD loans, which make up about 65% of mortgages. (archive) Rental property cannot be bought using FHA or HUD loans, rental property is not covered by this moratorium. Courts are shut down on a local level and landlords cannot file an eviction. That means as soon as the courts re-open, they CAN file evictions if you've been a model tenant like Kyle here.

Tenants stop paying rent > landlord cannot pay mortgage > bank forecloses >bank evicts tenants, landlord can't help now.
Nevermind maintenance, insurance, taxes, water/sewer/trash and whatever employees they had.

Just fucking talk to your landlord.

These are the people who think they will lead a revolution and be the Lavrentiy Beria that liquidates the chuds.

What pisses me off is when people try to hoard perishable food, and buy two months worth of tard cum/uncanned fruit/meat that will last two weeks at most. I was looking at the empty shelves of my local supermarket and half the stuff that's completely gone cannot be stored for long periods of time.

People are buying the stupidest shit too. My local Walmart was sold out of the name-brand Cheerios, but still had the Great Value brand Cheerio knockoffs in the big bag sitting two feet to the left, completely untouched. They sold out of Tide Pods and Downy and Palmolive, but still had tons of cheap generic detergent and fabric softener.

 

[AnOminous]

People are buying the stupidest shit too. My local Walmart was sold out of the name-brand Cheerios, but still had the Great Value brand Cheerio knockoffs in the big bag sitting two feet to the left, completely untouched.

I saw exactly the opposite, with all the big bags snapped up and had to buy the brand name Frosted Mini-Wheats. I don't mind.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Kim Kardashian is donating money but also charging 60 bucks for masks and shit.

I can see it now
"Guys, bible, this corona virus is making me take constant trips to the refrigerator, what can I say I love gelato! Delish. Luckily, my SKIMS will keep me looking skinny even with my guilty pleasures! USE CODE RONASKINNY for 15% off!"

 

[CeleryStalks]

Flint, Michigan, USA
(Famous for lead in the water)

Police arrest man on charges he tried to spread coronavirus in Flint-area grocery store

The 26-year-old Mount Morris man faces three felonies.

www.mlive.com

(archive)
Highlights:

A store employee had called 911 saying a man was walking around the store with his hands down his pants and touching and pushing around shopping carts, all while saying he was infected with COVID-19...
While police were taking him to the jail, the suspect kissed a window in the police vehicle, leaving visible residue in a seeming attempt to further spread the virus.

The suspect's name is not given in the article. The three felonies carry penalties of up to two, four and five years in prison, respectively.
ETA: Better article with the suspect's name: Jonathan David-Asher Miracle

Mt. Morris man charged after claiming he was trying to spread coronavirus

Jonathan David-Asher Miracle, 26, is charged with falsely exposing a person to a harmful substance

www.detroitnews.com

(archive)

 

[toilet_rainbow]

It doesn't hurt. You can flush a toilet with it in a pinch, or take a trucker's shower. You might not think you'd need it but people who run things like water treatment plants are skilled and replacing them if they get sick isn't an immediate option. That's all it takes for water rationing to start in many places in the country.

I wouldn't panic buy a fuckload of water bottles, but a 24 pack is like $4 and a gallon of water is $1. It wouldn't hurt to buy one "just in case" for the exact reasons you stated. A city about an hour away from me had a waterline break last week that kept people from using their water utilities for a couple days. There's a difference between prepping and hoarding. There's plenty around so I'll probably buy a pack or a couple gallons whenever I return to the grocery store.

I can't find dry beans and very little at grocery stores but my Dollar Tree had plenty of dry beans and rice. Maybe not the best "value" but if you need a pound or two it's better than nothing.

 

[AnOminous]

I wouldn't panic buy a fuckload of water bottles, but a 24 pack is like $4 and a gallon of water is $1. It wouldn't hurt to buy one "just in case" for the exact reasons you stated. A city about an hour away from me had a waterline break last week that kept people from using their water utilities for a couple days. There's a difference between prepping and hoarding. There's plenty around so I'll probably buy a pack or a couple gallons whenever I return to the grocery store.

Correct. Preppers aren't the ones responsible for this nonsense. Preppers already had their shit stockpiled before anything even happened. Hoarders are the ones who need to be put up against a wall.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Correct. Preppers aren't the ones responsible for this nonsense. Preppers already had their shit stockpiled before anything even happened. Hoarders are the ones who need to be put up against a wall.

It's insulting how the hoarders are labeling themselves as "preppers." Simply insulting. They're lauding themselves as someone like Burt from Tremors, when they're actually just the idiotic asshole in a horror movie that causes the group more problems than any sort of solutions.

They didn't prep for shit. It's not prepping when you're scrambling around while the shit is hitting the fan. What's even worse is that everyone would be able to shop normally if these assholes didn't panic hoard everything, too. Grocery shopping would be normal.

And on top of all of that, I keep reading reports that trash collectors have stated multiple times in recent weeks about how they've never seen so much food thrown away before. Ugh, just thinking about it pisses me off. I hate people, lol.

 

[That Ho Over Here]

It's insulting how the hoarders are labeling themselves as "preppers." Simply insulting. They're lauding themselves as someone like Burt from Tremors, when they're actually just the idiotic asshole in a horror movie that causes the group more problems than any sort of solutions.

They didn't prep for shit. It's not prepping when you're scrambling around while the shit is hitting the fan. What's even worse is that everyone would be able to shop normally if these assholes didn't panic hoard everything, too. Grocery shopping would be normal.

And on top of all of that, I keep reading reports that trash collectors have stated multiple times in recent weeks about how they've never seen so much food thrown away before. Ugh, just thinking about it pisses me off. I hate people, lol.

We've been prepping forever, and everyone laughed at us and called us crazy.

Now everyone's jelly because we have all the respirators we'll need, stacks of bog roll and enough booze to happily drink our way through a nuclear winter. We haven't had too much craziness here, to be fair: the stores have started a policy of only buying so much, and only letting a certain number of people into the store at a given time.

Many stores are also prioritizing elderly/disabled people and NHS workers and shuttling them to the front of the queue. I do worry that some stores have begun to refuse cash because I know a lot of the elderly folk around here don't even HAVE cards. Speaking of -powerlevel- I went on an adventure yesterday to obtain bananas for an elderly neighbor who has half a stomach and experiences difficulty with most foods. It was wild to see a queue that stretched from the mall doors all the way across the car park before doubling back across the road. Luckily I got him his bananas, bread and some other essentials. He's 95 this year and I really don't want him going out in this shitstorm. -powerlevel-

My dad basically echoed your sentiments: people are stupid and most of the food will end up binned. I'm also amazed because I see people buying a tonne of fresh crap with a short shelf life from the deli sections and whatnot, but there are still cans of tuna, veg, beans, noodles etc stacked to the ceiling. You'd think if people are going to panic and buy everything they'd go for stuff you can whack in a cupboard with a virtually endless shelf life but nah, let's all buy sixty punnets of fucking blueberries for some unfathomable reason.

 

[Kornheiser]

Since EBT gets refilled Wednesday there will be hoarding like you wouldn’t believe. Grocery stores are horrible at the beginning of the month.

 

[I can't imagine]

Since EBT gets refilled Wednesday there will be hoarding like you wouldn’t believe. Grocery stores are horrible at the beginning of the month.

They've changed how SNAP (food stamps) works, so people get it on different days of the month. At least in every state I know of. Of course, grocery stores are still busier on the first couple days of the month anyway, for whatever reason, so I suppose it's still a fair point.

 

[CeleryStalks]

Flint, Michigan, USA

Quick follow-up on this post.

Flint, Michigan, USA
(Famous for lead in the water)

Police arrest man on charges he tried to spread coronavirus in Flint-area grocery store

The 26-year-old Mount Morris man faces three felonies.

www.mlive.com

(archive)
Highlights:

The suspect's name is not given in the article. The three felonies carry penalties of up to two, four and five years in prison, respectively.
ETA: Better article with the suspect's name: Jonathan David-Asher Miracle

Mt. Morris man charged after claiming he was trying to spread coronavirus

Jonathan David-Asher Miracle, 26, is charged with falsely exposing a person to a harmful substance

www.detroitnews.com

(archive)

Jonathan David-Asher Miracle has been tested and found negative for coronavirus. The prosecutor has added "false report of terrorism" to the charges, which carries a penalty of up to 20 years in prison. "Miracle is being held in the Genesee County Jail on a $300,000 cash or surety bond. He’s been ordered by the court not to enter any Kroger store."

Man faces felonies for threatening to spread coronavirus at grocery store

Prosecutor David Leyton will seek a false report of terrorism charge -- punishable by up to two decades in prison and/or a $20,000 fine -- on top of multiple charges already faced by 26-year-old Jonathan David-Asher Miracle, of Mt. Morris.

www.mlive.com

(archive)

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

Since EBT gets refilled Wednesday there will be hoarding like you wouldn’t believe. Grocery stores are horrible at the beginning of the month.

It's also when loofahs seem to be sold out almost everywhere in some areas.

 

[Shield Breaker]

Since EBT gets refilled Wednesday there will be hoarding like you wouldn’t believe. Grocery stores are horrible at the beginning of the month.

EBTs get reloaded in staggered waves, unless they have changed things since I was a store manager, back in college. It's based on your social security number IIRC. This means the next seven to ten days are going to be a pain for us non-gibs.

 

[New Fag]

Fools and their money are easily parted. Just your general this rock keeps away tigers, if you see a tiger it's cause you don't beleive enough.

London church selling ‘plague protection kits' for £90 consisting of oil and red yarn. Archive. Bishop Climate's blog post shilling for 'anointed' oils. Archive.

The council is investigating, hope the Bishop has a load of the oil which helps with legal issues.

Spoiler: Guess the ethnicity.

 

[WD-40]

A Hoarder’s Huge Stockpile of Masks and Gloves Will Now Go to Doctors and Nurses, F.B.I. Says

The stockpile, slated for medical personnel in New York and New Jersey, includes 192,000 N95 respirators, 130,000 surgical masks and nearly 600,000 medical-grade gloves, the authorities said.

www.nytimes.com

http://archive.fo/B4cG2

A 43-year-old man by the name of Baruch Feldheim was arrested by the FBI after they found 192,000 N95 masks, 130,000 surgical masks, and 600,000 medical gloves at his residence in Brooklyn.

The man who was charged with lying to federal agents, Baruch Feldheim, 43, charged a doctor $12,000 last month for a large order of masks, gowns and hazmat gear at a 700 percent markup, according to the F.B.I. The agency called it a glaring example of hoarding of medical supplies that are designated as essential under a presidential executive order.

When the doctor went to pick up his order at an auto repair shop in Irvington, N.J., which was being used as a warehouse, he saw so many pallets of medical gear, Clorox wipes and hand sanitizer that it would have been enough to supply an entire hospital, a criminal complaint said.

The FBI later seized all his supplies and distributed them to medical workers in New York and New Jersey.

And in Harris County, Texas, 750,000 N95 masks were seized from an auction house. However, most of them are unusable as they either had mold or were for construction.

 

[AnOminous]

The man who was charged with lying to federal agents, Baruch Feldheim, 43, charged a doctor $12,000 last month for a large order of masks, gowns and hazmat gear at a 700 percent markup, according to the F.B.I. The agency called it a glaring example of hoarding of medical supplies that are designated as essential under a presidential executive order.

Note. They have him dead to rights on the most blatant hoarding imaginable. People probably want to go kill him personally at this point.

What do they charge him with? Lying to federal agents. Do not talk to the FBI.

While I'm glad this guy did, they might have to go after him for a possibly unconstitutional law otherwise. All they need to convict of a felony under the lying to federal agents law is a single untrue statement.

And also don't deliberately cough on them and tell them you have coronavirus.

When federal agents first confronted Mr. Feldheim on Sunday, he coughed in their direction and told them that he had tested positive for the coronavirus, the authorities said. He was arrested on Monday and also charged with one count of assault on a federal officer, the criminal complaint said.

You'd think the cunt would realize he was already in enough trouble.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said it would pay “fair market value” to the owner of the hoarded equipment.

They probably won't consider "fair market value" to be what he could actually get for them, though.

Luckily for them, he's a giant blabbermouth who gave them two really easy felonies to go after, so they almost don't even need to care about the real reason they arrested him any more.