Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread -

Which country(ies) will fare the worst due to the WuFlu?


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Who would have thought muh land of the gun, home of the bloated military spending USA would have less teeth that our fucking small defensive army, low criminality, peaceful nannystate.
Because we don't send MP out on the street like they do in South America and Euroland armed like they are going to war, we have civilian law enforcement for a reason.

We have average cops who are armed with enough weaponry to take down most criminals. SWAT teams are as close to MP's in other countries and the National Guard is as good or better than most countries standing armies. Then there's our Armed Services which, god help us all, will never be deployed locally. We American's love our guns but we don't want our cops to be fucking judge dredd here. That way leads to Socialism.

The cops don't want to die, they are civilians after all, and can't be everywhere at once (budget constraints done at the local/state level), and since it's fucking Ohio which is the equivalent of any dirthole 2nd world nation (Let's go with Portugal here), the savages will end up killing each other just for giggles and the cops won't let the contagion spread beyond the inner city or projects.

Contrast that with New York City where the governor has called in the National Guard and you see armored personal carriers on streets straight out of a movie. Each state is handling this crisis differently and that's both the beauty and downfall of our State vs. Federal goverments.
 

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I think some of the age discrepancies might go like: Young adults without children vs young adults with young families. Then you have the ones spending more time in the workforce as higher levels, middle management who has to be there, someone supporting a few teens/college kids vs. those who are likely to have the kids gone and resources available able to cut a certain amount of contact and still make it.
 

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That's Bolsonaro.

I feel really bad for Brazilians, they have a moron as a president who refuses to take the pandemic seriously. Given how much of the population lacks access to basic sanitation, COVID-19 could spread like wildfire.
Truly Brazil's Trump.

He is still refusing to let the Cuban doctors help. Probably worried that they may actually help Brazil's poor, rather than his effete bankster masters.
Because we don't send MP out on the street like they do in South America and Euroland armed like they are going to war, we have civilian law enforcement for a reason.

We have average cops who are armed with enough weaponry to take down most criminals. SWAT teams are as close to MP's in other countries and the National Guard is as good or better than most countries standing armies.
So what you saying is, the US doesn't need the military police because the police is militarized?

EDIT: As an aside, for those people suggesting the official Italian death rates are overestimates, Greg Cochran had a look at some Italian news sources and what he found may surprise you:
In nearby Caravaggio 50 against an average of 6 in previous years. Only 2 “officials” for Covid-19.
70 people have died in Dalmine, including 2 officially for coronavirus. A year ago they had been 18...
We have had 16 deceased people since February 27, of which 3 officially for Covid-19, but also others with very clear symptoms. Throughout 2019 there were 28 deaths
 
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Why you doin it though?
No idea. Kiwifarms is the total extent of my Social Media participation.
Just asked , and apparently it's been organised on Facebook as a 'support the NHS' gimick, starting last week when they saw the Spanish version.
I have no problem with spontaneous displays. But this reeks of Astroturfed Gay Ops from the government. I can feel some smug cunt PR wanker sat in London congratulating himself at getting the little people to dance.
 

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Guess what, the CCP not only sent the faulty tests to the Czech Republic but to Spain too. We should nuke Beijing from orbit.

Truly Brazil's Trump.

He is still refusing to let the Cuban doctors help. Probably worried that they may actually help Brazil's poor, rather than his effete bankster masters.

So what you saying is, the US doesn't need the military police because the police is militarized?
Finally! An upside to living in a police state.
 

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AMERICA #1!

Fuck you, Italy!

AMERICA FIRST!

Do we win?
Considering the number of states and the amount of people I'm not surprised. It was bound to happen.
 

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Considering the number of states and the amount of people I'm not surprised. It was bound to happen.
Yes, it makes perfect sense for China, with 1.43 billion people to have less cases than the US, with .33 billion people (admittedly illegal aliens probably bring that up to .37 billion). Especially given the Chinese gave the US government months of warning.
Guess what, the CCP not only sent the faulty tests to the Czech Republic but to Spain too. We should nuke Beijing from orbit.
Did you read the article where it is admitted these were random tests they bought from random Chinks? Of course not. As the Czech health minister pointed out, these tests bought from ChinkyChinaman1234 on AliBaba do at least work in some circumstances- unlike, for example, what Trump's CDC produced.
 

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Because we don't send MP out on the street like they do in South America and Euroland armed like they are going to war, we have civilian law enforcement for a reason.

We have average cops who are armed with enough weaponry to take down most criminals. SWAT teams are as close to MP's in other countries and the National Guard is as good or better than most countries standing armies. Then there's our Armed Services which, god help us all, will never be deployed locally. We American's love our guns but we don't want our cops to be fucking judge dredd here. That way leads to Socialism.

The cops don't want to die, they are civilians after all, and can't be everywhere at once (budget constraints done at the local/state level), and since it's fucking Ohio which is the equivalent of any dirthole 2nd world nation (Let's go with Portugal here), the savages will end up killing each other just for giggles and the cops won't let the contagion spread beyond the inner city or projects.

Contrast that with New York City where the governor has called in the National Guard and you see armored personal carriers on streets straight out of a movie. Each state is handling this crisis differently and that's both the beauty and downfall of our State vs. Federal goverments.
If your military won't even mobilize when the alternative is declaring a free for all and letting HOME INVASION go unpunished then what the fuck are they for? Iraq? Yeah that was totally worth it.

Face it. THIS is exactly why all armies have emergency units. But your stupid fucking government is doing shit.

Also yes, your cops are well armed enough to take down all criminals. And yes. They are scared. So, how the fuck can your state survive if the people meant to keep civil discipline are so undisciplined themselves that despite making 40k's arbites look peaceful they won't even have the balls to get out there and fucking help.

Meanwhile our statistics for cop lethality make yours look like murderous lunatics, and ours are double teaming as entertainers and local aid to keep morale up, and they do it with a fucking smile despite having to deal with the terrorists, the moroccan drug lords (which are better armed than most militias), and now german lunatics on cars of peace.

Honestly I think you have much to consider as to how your police force is drilled and employef. Almost as much as you have of your frankly abhorrent criminality rates. That's not freedom is anarchy. The USA has many good things and as I said before if anything I'm happy it's you leading the free world because oh god are the alternatives horrifying. But my god the things you suck at you REALLY suck at.
 

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Untrue. There are testing places all over the county. You can't get tested unless you are showing serious symptoms.


Carry on, carry on ....
You realize the poor and rich, generally speaking, will have completely different reactions to "serous symptoms", right?
The rich person will have the insurance to immediately take action when their symptoms get worse and call up the doctors; The poor can't afford the 3000$ testing bill, to say nothing about how much getting Aid at the hospital would cost them, and will just suffer in silence at their houses.
 

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I guess the other part of my conditional sentence must still be true though, you would think the people in places like El Sereno or Downey would be getting hit pretty hard. especially with how many asians brought up houses in a lot of these middle class areas.
Not to derail this thread.

I asked my husband about your theory about there being a disparity in the access to tests, for people in Compton and for people in Brentwood.

Basically he said "maybe" ... for example, a lot of celebrities work and live in Brentwood. So did the celebrities come back from some exotic cocktail party and purchase their own tests?

I know that there are "concierge doctors" for the super wealthy. So is it a "concierge doctor" elite access thing?

Or is it some guy who owns a catering truck that passed on a hell of a lot of infections thru "friendly fire?" Discovered thru contact tracing, and "common" stand in the line to the right if you have a fever testing?

The real issue here is, though, is from what I can tell, there is a ceiling as far as what they can do for you. So Madonna's money is not going to buy her some kind of golden ticket to a better outcome than another woman in her 60's with similar health.

Although admittedly she can buy herself some luxury bunker. Seriously, quarantine like the super-rich.

Also, is the cleaning staff of an infected celebrity or banker checking into the Hospital in Beverly Hills? That could add to the numbers in wealthy areas. And bump down the average of infected.

Who knows at this point.
 

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Yes, it makes perfect sense for China, with 1.43 billion people to have less cases than the US, with .33 billion people (admittedly illegal aliens probably bring that up to .37 billion). Especially given the Chinese gave the US government months of warning.
I am wondering what the illegal aliens are going to add to this problem. California certainly has enough of them, on top of the homeless population.
Also drug addicts.

It's already hit San Bernardino. That's a very working class population. I feel bad for people who live out in the desert. There's not many hospitals and a lot of poor people.
 

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NYC has a 311 page and when I was browsing it yesterday there was a bit about signing up for food delivery if you couldn't go out to get food. I signed up and got an email stating I would get 4 boxes meant to last 2 days. Someone came to deliver the boxes today in a bag. He did practice social distancing so there's that.
How much, if anything, are people being charged for this stuff, if yu don't mind my asking? Is there still the option of "regular" food delivery for NYC residents, or delivery from grocery stores?
 

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and there's even some random study from the 1940s that says vape juice kills bugs or something
When my grandfather died and we were cleaning out his basement we found, besides rolls of asbestos and other horrors, a 5 gallon drum of liquid nicotine pesticide. My dad kept a jar of it for personal use and my uncle probably dumped the rest down a storm drain.
 
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