Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread -

Which country(ies) will fare the worst due to the WuFlu?


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clusterfuckk

Just a Karen with a hate hard on
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Naw, there's some of us. It's just shite, all of it. Hoping I get my brains blown out the morrow to be honest. The sweet release of death is better than the hell I now live in.

I feel the same flids, just end me. First I wanna see all the covidians fill up the hospital from vax side effects. Fuck it scorched earth.

What’s the point when this place is tripling down on the vax and committing forced assimilation to any non believers.
 

Bosmadden

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It's never been a left vs right issue, or at least not in the sense that people define it now, but always an us vs them issue. It's the rich elite vs everyone else, and right now they're winning. This rather ironically puts me closer to the socialist revolutionary side of things (though I'm more of a lolbert than anything), but every time I've tried to convince lefty acquaintances of this, they've called me a nazi and fucked off to their little hugboxes. Fucking tankie morons.
The numbers from the UK about the delta variant are incredible. This thing has mutated into a mildish cold. 0.1% mortality for the unvaccinated who test positive, given that a shit ton of people will be catching it and not even noticing, let alone getting tested, the real number will be a lot lower. The mortality rate for the vaccinated is higher, which might be down to sampling differences, the vaccines killing them or something else.

I'm wondering why the fuck the British government are publishing data that destroys their justification for lockdowns and vaccines? It's like they don't give a shit if the information is out there.

The data from Israel is also showing the Pfizer vaccine as being completely useless at stopping spread, but they're still pushing to inject babies.

They really want as many people as possible to get the jab don't they? I mean REALLY want.

Any adult who gets the jab at this point is a confirmed retard.
 

Scale Smerch

Pass the cluster rockets
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Oh now that's pathetic. The kids who you help are already going to die and I'd wager plenty have illnesses preventing them receiving vaccines. And yet you're going to discriminate like this? Truly a MATI-worthy decision, I really hope some of the parents affected call them out for it.
 

NyQuilninja

drink me
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All eyes on Ameriland for July the 4th.
I'm celebrating America day by going to a freedom
Festival/drunkfest involving classic cars drag racing / mixed car racing drinking loud explosions bbq fried food and live music . 4 day long celebration awaits me. my neighborhood and city will be filled with a nearly endless display of fireworks and block parties.
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annoyingfuck

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The numbers from the UK about the delta variant are incredible. This thing has mutated into a mildish cold. 0.1% mortality for the unvaccinated who test positive, given that a shit ton of people will be catching it and not even noticing, let alone getting tested, the real number will be a lot lower. The mortality rate for the vaccinated is higher, which might be down to sampling differences, the vaccines killing them or something else.

I'm wondering why the fuck the British government are publishing data that destroys their justification for lockdowns and vaccines? It's like they don't give a shit if the information is out there.

The data from Israel is also showing the Pfizer vaccine as being completely useless at stopping spread, but they're still pushing to inject babies.

They really want as many people as possible to get the jab don't they? I mean REALLY want.

Any adult who gets the jab at this point is a confirmed retard.
There is an A&N post 'New COVID wave could be another Trump-caused massacre - ', I can't find your post when you said something about them blaming Trump, that that would be the turning point?
 

Fliddaroonie

I'm a spooky ghost! Whooooo!!! Ectoplasm!!!!
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You know how 1. Governments use bad news to hide worse and 2. We're being told that the vaccines protect against the alleged delta variant?

While people in the UK have been seething over the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care telling us we are lItErAlLy KiLlInG gRaNdMa, etc etc, yesterday they published a report. This report is a fair few pages but table 4 is interesting.


Table 4 is the numbers of people dying of coof 2, mucus boogaloo and their vaccine status, one or two given.

To summarise it briefly, it says that:

In total, from 1st February to 21st June 2021, for both main age brackets we look at, under 5o and below 50, there were 117 deaths from the nyoo and improved coof. 44 deaths happened in unvaccinated people, 6 under 50, 38 over 50 in people who had a positive test in the 28 days preceeding their death. 3 deaths were totally unrelated to coof, but one death was within 21 day of their first vaccine, 19 were within 21-28 days of the first vaccine, and 50 of these deaths were in people who had both vaccines. Seventy deaths in total were in people who had at least one vaccine. 70 out of 117. Only 47 deaths happened to people without any vaccine at all.

40.17% of these deaths happened in people who had not been vaccinated. The overwhelming majority happened to people who had at least one vaccine, with 59.83% of people dying from the alleged new variant having had at least one vaccine.

Not only are people who have been vaccinated more likely to die, they are taking these vaccines under the delusion that they are keeping themselves safe from this as in the UK the media are telling people that the vaccines will "keep them safe".
 

Meriasek

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On a different forum there's a chinese user who chimes in every once in a while, quite clearly a shill. Always talking about how great China actually is and how we all have misconceptions about cuntry numbah wan. Fun thing I noticed is how he's been talking about the Delta variant "made by India" and how dangerous that is. Always at the forefront of current ChiCom political issues, like starting a war with India and deflecting blame for fucking up their virus containment.
 

HymanHive

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40.17% of these deaths happened in people who had not been vaccinated. The overwhelming majority happened to people who had at least one vaccine, with 59.83% of people dying from the alleged new variant having had at least one vaccine.
That was interesting info. I know it's only a small percentage, but if you add the 59.83% to the chances of dying or becoming seriously ill due to the vaccine, that number jumps above 2/3rds

Get a vaccine = 2/3rds chance of dying from coof or vaccine
Do nothing = 1/3 chance of dying.
 

Super-Chevy454

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There's a bit more on the table about the pastors in Canada who was arrested because they preached during the lockdown. They got some support from Senator Josh Hawley. https://www.theepochtimes.com/hawle...dom-violators-for-pastor-arrests_3874390.html

Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) on Thursday appealed to the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF) to consider adding Canada to its special watchlist—alongside the likes of Afghanistan, Cuba, and Iraq—in response to arrests of Canadian pastors who held services that allegedly violated COVID-19 restrictions.
The USCIRF’s special watchlist (SWL) is a list of countries where state-sanctioned violations of religious freedoms meet two of the elements of the agency’s “systematic, ongoing, and egregious” test. A secondary list, called the Countries of Particular Concern (CPC), features countries like China and Iran that meet all three criteria and whose governments engage in or tolerate “particularly severe” violations, such as torture.
In his letter (pdf) to Nadine Maenza, USCIRF chair, the Missouri Republican expressed his “deep concern” that religious freedom “is in peril across our nation’s northern border,” citing several recent examples of Canadian pastors being arrested for non-compliance with pandemic health rules.
“On June 14, Pastor Tim Stephens of Fairview Baptist Church in Calgary, who was previously arrested in May, was arrested again at home in front of his wife and children,” Hawley wrote. “Media outlets captured heartbreaking video of the pastor’s children sobbing as they held their father’s hand through the barred window of a police car.”
Calgary police arrested Stephens at his home a day after he held an outdoor church service for his congregation, allegedly in defiance of the Alberta Health Service’s (AHS) public health orders, according to a news release from the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms, the non-profit legal organization that’s representing Stephens in court.
“It is our position that AHS is engaged in an intentional act of public deception and abuse of authority in arresting Pastor Stephens and others,” said Jay Cameron, Justice Centre Litigation Director, in a statement.
Fairview Baptist congregants were worshiping outdoors for the second Sunday in a row after the AHS physically closed down the church building on June 5.
In a statement, AHS said that “services that exceed allowed capacities have taken place at the Church each Sunday, with minimal to no masking or physical distancing occurring,” and that the agency physically closed the church to prevent access to the building until Stephens could “demonstrate the ability to comply with these restrictions.”
According to the CBC, a Canadian news outlet, Stephens was previously fined for holding over-capacity gatherings and not enforcing mask use. Stephens remains in custody and is set to appear before a court on June 28.
 

One Haunted Gambler

The game never ends
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I took the jab today. Because my family don't want me to catch Covid and insisted me to take the vaccine.
The hospital staff made me sign a contact before the jab. The contact included things like "The person must consent to the vaccine (I find this rather ironic. There are tons of adds on TV that tells you to take the vaccine or you'll die and some areas don't allow unvaccinated people at all.)" and "BioNTech is not responsible with any damage done by the vaccine."
The jab was rather unconfortable. I felt a bit numb after that and my arm still aches.
Now, I'm just kind of sad. I have no idea what will happen next.
 

Meriasek

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That was interesting info. I know it's only a small percentage, but if you add the 59.83% to the chances of dying or becoming seriously ill due to the vaccine, that number jumps above 2/3rds

Get a vaccine = 2/3rds chance of dying from coof or vaccine
Do nothing = 1/3 chance of dying.
Hm, I think that's a bit off.
Consider the total amount of cases in emergency care, and that in certain age groups more people are vaccinated than not. In the >50 age group 3,546 Delta cases were among those with two shots, and 976 with no shot yet. In the <50 age group there are 3,689 Delta cases among those with two shots, and 52,846 with no vaccination yet. That would suggest that the >50 group is much more heavily vaccinated. So 1.4% of those >50 who had two shots died, but 3.89% of those who had no shot died.
In the <50 group nobody of the fully vaccinated group died, and 0.07% of the unvaccinated died. Although in the <50 group only eight people died in total, so that's not exactly a deadly disease.
What I find interesting is that the total number of >50 people within >= 21 days of first dose and after second dose is roughly the same, but the amount of deaths after second dose is much higher. My guess here is that the >50 age group is a bit broad, and since the very old and vulnerable were vaccinated first, you'll have a ton of really old people in the fully vaccinated group that will die anyway.
My conclusion? The vaccination does help, but above a certain age it stops working. You can't keep 80+ yo people alive forever, and no amount of fancy vaccination can jumpstart an immune system that's old fucked up to begin with.
Also, the vaccine effect is kinda low below a certain age as well, but the data there is too rough to tell. Also, it's all about the Delta variant, so to me at least it looks like it does help against that. Might be wrong, but I don't see the jab being some sort of killer here. At best it works as intended, at worst it's useless. Problem is that people expected the vaccine to somehow prevent old people from dying at all.
 

Car Won't Crank

My cars won't crank
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