Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread -

Which country(ies) will fare the worst due to the WuFlu?


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Daddy's Little Kitten

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I'm sitting here watching an utterly maddening news conference as my province in Canada, (sorry for the PL), announces it's 1st case. Man in his 50s, travelled back from Wuhan via Guangzou, (sp-?) on the 22nd. Felt shitty, had relative call health authorities & paramedics showed up properly geared up. Direct admission to isolation to Sunnybrook Hospital in Toronto & a positive test result has just been confirmed.

They weren't going to give much more info but the press isn't having that shit. So... small family who have self-isolated themselves. Public Health is doing their thing & that had better bloody well include close checking of all other passengers & flight crew. Long flight, recycled air... yeah. The press is pressing for details - in firm & sometimes raised voices.

Just heard the wife is asymptomatic; for now anyway.

So add Canada to the list. Will update with a link as soon as our news websites get something solid up.
This is what Canada gets for letting Yaniv run amok.
 

Death Grip

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Situation report 5 is now available.
Highlights:
It's now been found in 20 Chinese provinces.
23 cases in nine countries outside of China.
All of these cases are in some way directly linked to travel from China.
41 confirmed deaths.
The number of 'confirmed' cases has risen by 474 in the last 24 hours.
Report can be found here:

Briefly looked at the livestream, why was the guy talking Scottish? Nothing against Scots just thought it was a Canadian thing?
 

qu_rahn

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My sister is a nurse at a hospital and hasn't heard anything about coronavirus yet, whereas when Ebola was kicking off a few years back they had meetings about it. I imagine that Health Systems across the country will vary in the precautions they take but at this time I dont think there's any top-down guidance from the authorities advising hospitals to prepare for mass casualties (as other posters were implying).
 

DefCon Dumb

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Toronto pretty much has their stuff together; you're right. I watched SARS there & the messy way they worked towards workable protocols. MOST Canadians, if asked to self quarantine, will do so & neighbours will be happy to help with porch side food & other deliveries.

I don't live there but in a city a few hours away & my city has one completely messed up health care system. The medical/nursing/technologies personnel are sterling but are desperately short of every resource needed - manpower, supplies & patient care spaces. As the home to a large, well known university with lots of Asian students... yeah.

Here's the link to the Canadian story I promised:

 

Jet Fuel Johnny

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people in the US are gonna wait to the last possible moment to go to the doc in order to avoid high copays
The hospital ER's will be full of illegals and welfare riders who cough and sneeze on you anyway. Why the fuck go to the hospital just to pay to get sneezed on?

If you want the corona-virus that bad, why not just fly to China and rub up against the first Chinaman you see?
If you go in when you're dying, you avoid the payments for all the visits they would dissmiss it as a comon cold.
That's gonna be the part that's hard to quantify for any estimations in the Western world. People who work and have to pay for their medical care aren't going to run to the ER for every sniffle and cough and feeling puny. They're going to tough it out, take Theraflu and Vitamin C, go to work anyway, and hope for the best.

People who don't have to pay for their medical are going to clog the ER's. And if you've been to a modern ER in the last 10 years you know that people just sneeze on each other, cough on each other, let sick kids play in the play area and smear their snot all over.

Then you have the ER frequent flyers. And then add the homeless into the mix, and it's going to be a test of the Western medical system in a bad way.

To be honest, I'm curious as to how well our current way of doing things is going to work when stressed.

EDIT:

Another thing I was thinking about: The House and Senate are wrapped up in the impeachment process right now. The D's feel like they're on the edge of getting ORANGEMANBAD out of office and are focused on it to the exclusion of everything else.

Is this going to delay or hamper US response? Are they going to ignore Corona-Chan landing on US soil and visiting everyone in order to focus on Peach Mints, or are they going to be able to set it aside to deal with Corona-Chan?

Removing the POTUS would cause serious upheaval at a time when we need clear cut leadership. Are we going to see House obstructionists go into high gear because "anything to make SMALLHANDSORANGEMANBAD look bad" will be the watchword, or will they start working together?

I'm interested in watching how our politicians deal with this shit too.

Can they set aside shit and get it done, or will CA claim that not rubbing your face on the nearest WARS infected troon to be a hate crime and the Peach Mint fans insisting that nothing can be done to address Corona-Chan dancing around until the Peach Mints have been handed out?

EDIT TWO: Music Tax

 
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Situation report 5 is now available.
Highlights:
It's now been found in 20 Chinese provinces.
23 cases in nine countries outside of China.
All of these cases are in some way directly linked to travel from China.
41 confirmed deaths.
The number of 'confirmed' cases has risen by 474 in the last 24 hours.
Report can be found here:

Briefly looked at the livestream, why was the guy talking Scottish? Nothing against Scots just thought it was a Canadian thing?
I don't see #5 here. do you have a mirror?
 
The hospital ER's will be full of illegals and welfare riders who cough and sneeze on you anyway. Why the fuck go to the hospital just to pay to get sneezed on?

If you want the corona-virus that bad, why not just fly to China and rub up against the first Chinaman you see?
PSA: if you have high fever, you are contagious, go to a hospital you neanderthal
 

JongleJingle

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I'm sitting here watching an utterly maddening news conference as my province in Canada, (sorry for the PL), announces it's 1st case. Man in his 50s, travelled back from Wuhan via Guangzou, (sp-?) on the 22nd. Felt shitty, had relative call health authorities & paramedics showed up properly geared up. Direct admission to isolation to Sunnybrook Hospital in Toronto & a positive test result has just been confirmed.

They weren't going to give much more info but the press isn't having that shit. So... small family who have self-isolated themselves. Public Health is doing their thing & that had better bloody well include close checking of all other passengers & flight crew. Long flight, recycled air... yeah. The press is pressing for details - in firm & sometimes raised voices.

Just heard the wife is asymptomatic; for now anyway.

So add Canada to the list. Will update with a link as soon as our news websites get something solid up.
Ouch, looks like I'm gonna have to hole up then. So much for free health care...
 

Suburban Bastard

Take your fucking vaccine already
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Mods should unban mr tickles so he can tell us everything is fine while coughting blood at the screen
yeeeeaaaah about that....he may have visited a wet market while he was gone
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PantsFreeZone

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I also wrote part of a parody of Kung Fu Fightin'.

Everyone caught the Kung Flu flying
Coronavirus spread fast as lightning
In fact, it was a little bit frightening
Should've got the beef lo chow mein

They used viral bat soup from a dying china town
They were chopping them up
They were chopping them down
It's an ancient Chinese art
They use every single part
From the infected bat skin
To their elastic bat wings.
 

5ever a crab

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I saw the kiwi homepage. I live in burgerland, no where near California or Texas but should I seriously buy a masks etc. before shit hits the fan, or is this just Happening(not really lol): electric boogaloo. In the mean time, I'm just taking a lot of vitamin pills, drinking OJ and keeping myself healthy as possible.

Also why the fuck would China of all places make a research facility for deadly viruses when those niggas can't even make stable buildings that kills them in gruesome, slow deaths.
 

Bagronkleton

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Chinese researcher escorted by RCMP out of level-4 lab that deals with infectious diseases.

A researcher with ties to China was recently escorted out of the National Microbiology Lab (NML) in Winnipeg amid an RCMP investigation into what's being described as a possible "policy breach."

Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, her husband Keding Cheng and an unknown number of her students from China were removed from Canada's only level-4 lab on July 5, CBC News has learned.

A Level 4 virology facility is a lab equipped to work with the most serious and deadly human and animal diseases. That makes the Arlington Street lab one of only a handful in North America capable of handling pathogens requiring the highest level of containment, such as Ebola.

Security access for the couple and the Chinese students was revoked, according to sources who work at the lab and do not want to be identified because they fear consequences for speaking out.

Sources say this comes several months after IT specialists for the NML entered Qiu's office after-hours and replaced her computer. Her regular trips to China also started being denied.

At meetings on July 8, NML staff were told the researchers are on leave for an unknown period of time. They were told not to communicate with them.

Qiu is a prominent virologist who helped develop ZMapp, a treatment for the deadly Ebola virus which killed more than 11,000 people in West Africa between 2014-2016.

She worked with Gary Kobinger, who is now a professor in the Department of Microbiology and Infectious Diseases and director of the Research Centre on Infectious Diseases at Laval University in Quebec.

Affiliated with Chinese university
Qiu is a medical doctor from Tianjin, China, who came to Canada for graduate studies in 1996. She is still affiliated with the university there and has brought in many students over the years to help with her work.

Currently head of the Vaccine Development and Antiviral Therapies section in the Special Pathogens Program at the lab, Qiu's primary field is immunology. Her research focuses on vaccine development, post-exposure therapeutics and rapid diagnostics of viruses like Ebola.

She is also an adjunct professor in the Department of Medical Microbiology at the University of Manitoba.

Cheng also works at the lab as a biologist. He has published research papers on HIV infections, Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), E. coli infections and Creutzfeldt-Jakob Syndrome.

The RCMP received a referral from the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) on May 24.

"Based on information received to date, the RCMP has assessed that there is no threat to public safety at this time," Robert Cyrenne said in an email to CBC News on Thursday.

PHAC is describing it as a policy breach and "administrative matter" and says the department is taking steps to "resolve it expeditiously," Eric Morrissette, the health agency's chief of media relations, said from Ottawa.

No one is under arrest or confined to their home, he added.

When asked for a response to the latest details, Morrissette said there would be no further comment "for privacy reasons."

A spokesperson for Health Minister Ginette Petitpas Taylor said she is aware of an "administrative investigation" at the lab but has no comment.

"We can assure Canadians that there is absolutely no risk to the Canadian public and that the work of the NML continues in support of the health and safety of all Canadians," communications director Mathieu Filion said in an email Saturday. Matthew Gilmour, scientific director general of the NML, did not respond to a request for comment.

A spokesperson for the Canada Border Services Agency said the department will not confirm or deny whether anyone has been arrested or is under investigation. That information would only be public if charges are laid, Judith Gadbois-St-Cyr said in an email Thursday.

No one from the Chinese Embassy could be reached for comment.

'Microbiology can ... involve national security'
While there are few details available, experts say this could be a case of intellectual property theft or technology leakage to China.

"The National Microbiology Laboratory would have some pretty sensitive biological research material that ... could be shared either with or without authorization with foreign countries," said Gordon Houlden, director of the University of Alberta's China Institute.

"All of this is unproven, but even microbiology, sometimes especially microbiology, can have issues that involve national security."

It's something the Canadian Security Intelligence Service has already warned about, said Leah West, who teaches national security law at Carleton's Norman Paterson School of International Affairs.

"Canada is facing threats from foreign governments seeking to steal intellectual property and that could include state-funded research," she said.

"The two big things I want to see is whether or not these individuals are charged with crimes by the RCMP ...that will give us a lot of information about what is really at stake here."

West is also interested in seeing how this plays out politically between Canada and the Chinese government.

Relations between the two countries have been strained since the detention of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou on a U.S. arrest warrant.

"China and Canada's relationship right now stems from China using espionage to advance its strategic interests, be that its security interests or its economic interests," West said. "How Canada deals with that going forward, especially given that we have two Canadians who remain in Chinese custody, will be very interesting to watch."

This isn't the first time police have investigated an incident at the lab.

In 2009, a former researcher at the lab was convicted of trying to smuggle genetic material from the Ebola virus across the Manitoba-North Dakota border.
 

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