Yaniv v Elections Canada -

[instythot]

Can you just keep filing complaint after complaint? Is there no limit?
He's gone after and ruined a lot of people. Will this tribunal just hear whatever shit he sends them?

Yes. And there is no cost to you filling out the paperwork. In fact, you might say it just gets easier with experience and the people on the other end still have their lives disrupted the same amount.

I am surprised about a couple of things:

1. The bureaucrats who have the power to close a complaint by reading it, deeming it invalid and sending a decision letter have not started to do so
2. There has been no discussion towards defining and filtering out obvious nuisance complainants in canuckistan along with the accompanying backlash by advocacy groups claiming the state intends to silence minorities

 

[RogerSpanderbilt]

This degenerate makes me wish I perished in the flames of the World Trade Center. How can someone make this much milk in one year?!?!

 

[Iron Hamster]

We the females asserting the rights of biological women

Wow. Tapped out in the first 9 words.

 

[Vagivagal Syncope]

Actually this already happened with his 14 previous filings. If you read the initial response for the ball-wax filings, you'll see the tribunal clerks did contact Yaniv after about the 14th or so filing and stopped him from actually filing MORE.

So there is a prior act on that issue, but it only applied to multiple filings on the same subject.

There is a lot of stuff about vexatious complaints in the civil and criminal side. It all started with rulings in Alberta and virtually every other province has accepted those rulings on vexatious litigation. But because you're not actually "litigating" in an HRT, there isn't anything. However if the HRT allowed a number of rulings to pass to the Surpreme Court (HRT can be seen as a kind of a supreme court firewall), then, absolutely, the SC could drop the hammer on these cases and prevent Yaniv from filing anything further in that court - even if by proxy of the HRT.

Yes. And there is no cost to you filling out the paperwork. In fact, you might say it just gets easier with experience and the people on the other end still have their lives disrupted the same amount.

I am surprised about a couple of things:

1. The bureaucrats who have the power to close a complaint by reading it, deeming it invalid and sending a decision letter have not started to do so
2. There has been no discussion towards defining and filtering out obvious nuisance complainants in canuckistan along with the accompanying backlash by advocacy groups claiming the state intends to silence minorities

 

[instythot]

Actually this already happened with his 14 previous filings. If you read the initial response for the ball-wax filings, you'll see the tribunal clerks did contact Yaniv after about the 14th or so filing and stopped him from actually filing MORE.

So there is a prior act on that issue, but it only applied to multiple filings on the same subject.

There is a lot of stuff about vexatious complaints in the civil and criminal side. It all started with rulings in Alberta and virtually every other province has accepted those rulings on vexatious litigation. But because you're not actually "litigating" in an HRT, there isn't anything. However if the HRT allowed a number of rulings to pass to the Surpreme Court (HRT can be seen as a kind of a supreme court firewall), then, absolutely, the SC could drop the hammer on these cases and prevent Yaniv from filing anything further in that court - even if by proxy of the HRT.

In my mind, that underscores my point. He filed FOURTEEN "wax my balls, bigot" complaints that were investigated before anyone cautioned him about filing too many of them.

The HRT is extralegal and set up for the express purpose of ensuring Leaf Equality. Does anyone really think the Supreme Leaf Court is going to step in with limits on who can complain about being mistreated how often, or that advocacy groups aren't going to flip the fuck out if they do?

 

[Vagivagal Syncope]

The request to stop came BEFORE any of them went to mediation. They got stopped at the incoming register.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean about the SC limiting the HRTs. They absolutely have - it's not a court, it's a tribunal, and there are absolute limits to what it can do. If it has to go beyond those limits, the case must be pushed up to the SCC and everyone has to lawyer up.

In my mind, that underscores my point. He filed FOURTEEN "wax my balls, bigot" complaints that were investigated before anyone cautioned him about filing too many of them.

The HRT is extralegal and set up for the express purpose of ensuring Leaf Equality. Does anyone really think the Supreme Leaf Court is going to step in with limits on who can complain about being mistreated how often, or that advocacy groups aren't going to flip the fuck out if they do?

 

[instythot]

The request to stop came BEFORE any of them went to mediation. They got stopped at the incoming register.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean about the SC limiting the HRTs. They absolutely have - it's not a court, it's a tribunal, and there are absolute limits to what it can do. If it has to go beyond those limits, the case must be pushed up to the SCC and everyone has to lawyer up.

Right. But it took FOURTEEN cases before they even thought about saying "hey Johnny, maybe think about stopping on this one particular issue please"

My point is that there is no risk to him in filing these for free and they're almost certainly going to follow through in some way when they could just start throwing them out.

My SC point was perhaps very badly worded. No part of the leaf establishment has the will or incentive to start making it more difficult for a crazy person to file complaint after complaint to the HRT

 

[Save the Loli]

The HRT is extralegal and set up for the express purpose of ensuring Leaf Equality. Does anyone really think the Supreme Leaf Court is going to step in with limits on who can complain about being mistreated how often, or that advocacy groups aren't going to flip the fuck out if they do?

Honestly, yes. He's a liability to the system's existence. The BCHRT was a bit spooked by all the journalists showing up to cover his cases, for instance, and his demand for ballwaxing went international and unleashed a ton of criticism within and outside of Canada. They can declare him a vexatious litigant and bar him from filing cases to make the system look like it's fair and unbiased and then go back to doing their usual shit like letting that pedo from Alberta who wants to be a babysitter file complaints against parents.

 

[instythot]

Honestly, yes. He's a liability to the system's existence. The BCHRT was a bit spooked by all the journalists showing up to cover his cases, for instance, and his demand for ballwaxing went international and unleashed a ton of criticism within and outside of Canada. They can declare him a vexatious litigant and bar him from filing cases to make the system look like it's fair and unbiased and then go back to doing their usual shit like letting that pedo from Alberta who wants to be a babysitter file complaints against parents.

I think the eyes of the world will have the opposite effect. Their fear of being perceived as anything less than the perfect arbiters of delicate social issues will have them double down on "as a citizen, Johnny and others like him have a right to have their complaints heard"

Plus, more stupid complaints to a government funded organization is a quantifiable and really easy case to make for "more funding please, daddy government"

 

[What This Old Thing!?]

Honestly, yes. He's a liability to the system's existence. The BCHRT was a bit spooked by all the journalists showing up to cover his cases, for instance, and his demand for ballwaxing went international and unleashed a ton of criticism within and outside of Canada. They can declare him a vexatious litigant and bar him from filing cases to make the system look like it's fair and unbiased and then go back to doing their usual shit like letting that pedo from Alberta who wants to be a babysitter file complaints against parents.

They were spooked weren't they? Did you see that one of the lawyers there has an "Ick List" with the yaniv-criticals from the hearing on it? I posted about it in the tweets megathread. And this screenshot about Goinglikeelsie running into Cousineau

 

[Choose carefully]

They were spooked weren't they? Did you see that one of the lawyers there has an "Ick List" with the yaniv-criticals from the hearing on it? I posted about it in the tweets megathread. And this screenshot about Goinglikeelsie running into Cousineau

I don't think that lawyer is an employee of the BCHRT. Her Twitter bio seems to indicate she works for the BC Human Rights Clinic, not the tribunal. The BCHRC helps complainants bring cases to the BCHRT, but they appear to be separate entities, with the BCHRC being directly funded from the BC government.

In her tweets, Elsie starts off correctly identifying LT as an employee of the BCHRC, but a few tweets later she switches to BCHRT - I assumed she just got muddled between the two.

Edit:

I didn't find any mention of LT on here prior to a few recent posts. There was a reference on Twitter from Ben Reilly saying LT "dropped you from @bchrt representation" which Yaniv refuted: "She never dropped me lol. There is stuff you don t know that's happening behind the scene." (Archive)

Do we have more info on LT's involvement with Yaniv's cases?

 

[Sevenatenine]

They were spooked weren't they? Did you see that one of the lawyers there has an "Ick List" with the yaniv-criticals from the hearing on it? I posted about it in the tweets megathread. And this screenshot about Goinglikeelsie running into Cousineau

The JCCF might have enough for a class action claim on behalf of people brought before the tribunal on frivolous claims. That's the only way the stupid system pays attention. Lawsuits. Maybe a whistleblower, but lawyers kind of circle the wagons, and BCHRT is all lawyers.

Honest people understand that being dragged before a tribunal is its own punishment. Lawyers often don't.

A lawyer perked up visibly when my non-lawyer self raised this class action concept. Citizen confidence in institutions is actively being undermined. And this case was resolved in a manner most people would agree with. It is atypical, as far as HRT rulings go. Some if the rulings are BATSHIT.


I don't even blame the complainants, not completely. Yaniv is a sadist and possibly insane. Functionally wetoddid. What the hell kind of institution allows honest citizens to be made victims by the least productive, most destructive minority? An institution driven by pure self interest.


JCCF might have enough. If the original respondents can take it. And i wouldn't blame them at all if they chose to leave it here.


I've known my entire life that the justice system didn't exist to help me, and I should avoid it at all costs. Firstly by being law abiding, then by minding my own business, then by complete obedience and courtesy when contacted by agents. I never understood this idea that "white people don't fear the police". I do. I always have. That system isn't there for me.