Your thoughts on reality, dark energy, and the expansion of the universe. -

[Romper Stomper]

So i've done a lot of reading and there's one thing that really sticks out to me. One of the most widely accepted theories is that dark energy will continue to accelerate the expansion of the universe itself until that expansion moves faster than the speed of light. But some other things that i've read about say that empty space itself is made of particles, and the general assumption is that no particle that exists can move faster than light. So at the very end of the universe during heat death, space, made of particles, would be expanding so fast that particles like photons could never have hope of interacting with each other, even though that violates the very core of the theory of relativity. It's just really confusing to me, and I was wondering, what were your thoughts?

tl;dr how can space expand faster than the speed of light if thats the fastest anything can move.

 

[break these cuffs]

It will be if God wills it.

 

[saisegeha]

I can't wait until Summer ends.

 

[Romper Stomper]

It will be if God wills it.

I won't deny that there is a god, but I like to believe he initiated the universe as it is today.

 

[break these cuffs]

I can't wait until Summer ends.

Don't parents send their kids to camp anymore? That shit should have started already.

 

[The Pink Panther]

Newfags posting deep shit about existentialism and shit.

 

[Exorbital Columnations]

How fast will OP's asshole dilate if we start pushing a road cone up there?

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

tl;dr how can space expand faster than the speed of light if thats the fastest anything can move.

Space can expand faster than the speed of light - see inflation, the Alcubierre warp drive and the Big Rip.

If there's a cosmological constant pushing space apart you could theoretically get a Big Rip.

The speed of light is only a speed limit for particles with mass below that speed, not for spacetime. Or for photons actually, which are massless spend their whole lifetime at the speed of light.

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

Don't parents send their kids to camp anymore? That shit should have started already.

Yes...concentration camp.

 

[QI 541]

Anything beyond classical physics is not comprehensible by human intuition.

 

[Y2K Baby]

and the general assumption is that no particle that exists can move faster than light.

Tachyon.

Shut up, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

You are under 16.

 

[Exorbital Columnations]

Shut up, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

You are under 16.

Oh shit, should I put my dick away then or..? Nevermind, I'm done.

 

[Sprig of Parsley]

I've never had my hopes dashed so fucking fast in a science-related thread

 

[Y2K Baby]

I've never had my hopes dashed so fucking fast in a science-related thread

All of them on this site are shit. We don't have a designated science sperg like @AnOminous is to law and @Shiversblood is to male anus.

 

[AnOminous]

Rename Deep Thoughts to Derp Thoughts.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Space can expand faster than the speed of light - see inflation, the Alcubierre warp drive and the Big Rip.

If there's a cosmological constant pushing space apart you could theoretically get a Big Rip.

The speed of light is only a speed limit for particles with mass below that speed, not for spacetime. Or for photons actually, which are massless spend their whole lifetime at the speed of light.

I've always found the "photons don't have mass, because they don't have rest mass, because they never come to rest" argument to be somewhat dubious. Firstly, an origin point for a photon can be observed, and an origin point implies a rest point. For instance, when a U235 atom is struck by a stray neutron, the U235 atom will break down, and release energy in the form of a photon. One could argue that the "rest mass" for a photon is just any matter. Secondly, a photon is effected by gravity, and finally, a photon can transmit kenitic energy.

 

[Romper Stomper]

lol

 

[Romper Stomper]

@mr.moon1488
That's just what really gets me about the whole thing. Energy and matter are considered to be two sides of the same thing, and while matter would take an infinite amount of energy to be accelerated to the speed of light, matter *can* be converted into energy and travel at that speed. The thing that I keep thinking is that the fabric of space must have an innate amount of energy that powers its acceleration, and that energy powering it has the same speed limit as traditional energy. But everything I read says that the universe would just keep expanding faster and faster, just because. No reason why, but just cuz.

 

[Y2K Baby]

@mr.moon1488
That's just what really gets me about the whole thing. Energy and matter are considered to be two sides of the same thing, and while matter would take an infinite amount of energy to be accelerated to the speed of light, matter *can* be converted into energy and travel at that speed. The thing that I keep thinking is that the fabric of space must have an innate amount of energy that powers its acceleration, and that energy powering it has the same speed limit as traditional energy. But everything I read says that the universe would just keep expanding faster and faster, just because. No reason why, but just cuz.

Go to school.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Go to school.

I tried, but I got arrested by the LBI.