YouTube Commentary Community - You know shit's about to get real when the cartoon avatar crosses their arms!

[OldManBoomer]

My biggest issue with that side of YouTube is the fact that they turn on each other immediately when convenient and come out with "I've totally thought this for awhile" or "I've known this for years".

Like, really? Can't you just be adults and tear into each other openly instead of all this cloak and dagger crap?

 

[Scrumption]

Shannon always struck me as pretentious and her content was often poorly researched or lazy, but I did not realize she was a lolcow of epic proportions. Her behavior has hallmarks of some of Beauty Parlor's brightest: she denies culpability no matter how much evidence is against her, she is narcissistic, fake, hateful, and most of all dumb for thinking she would never get caught.

It is crazy to see the amount of time she spent on lolcow just talking about herself. She has a genuine obsession.
I find it noteworthy that she not only talked trash about people she didn't like, including her own sister, but also went after people who were her "friends." I feel bad for them especially. There is some special deliciousness in the fact that she was big into virtue signaling, but meanwhile, she went around calling people fat, retarded, autistic, and more. She even called cis women trannies, and her most recent video pertains to pride. The lengths she went to shit on Emily over the years really says it all: that Shannon is a pathetic, hateful, miserable cunt. Also, hi Shannon

 

[Dave.]

Point reinforced that usually people who lovebomb or claim they're good people or nice are usually complete shitheads behind closed doors. Good people never need to identify themselves and usually they won't believe you when you call them that.

 

[Red Mask]

What’s infuriating about Shannon is that she really had a lot going for her. Good sized YT channel that no doubt made a lot of $$$ and now it’s being buried thanks to these actions. She would have gotten away with everything if she didn’t self-promote on LOLcow farms. I’ve said it before: WOW.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

One thing I was thinking about is with how the CSA channel was initially copying stuff from Emily's, and immediately she was using sock accounts to try to get Emily to respond, it's like her YouTube channel was only started up to shit on Emily some more.

 

[tasty humane burger]

I'm so glad Creepshow is being exposed. She always popped up in my YouTube recommendations with baity video titles so I'd try and watch her, only to get halfway through a video for her to not actually be onto the drama yet. She'd shoutout an artist, talk in millennial speak about how she's bad at adulting or whatever, preface the video with a trigger warning making it all about herself and talk about being hOmeLeSs. The videos themselves covered tired topics, with no new info and it was obviously she read on lolcow, here and other gossip forums for more sources. She was always super woke but it felt really fake, and obviously we can see that with her hilarious lolcowposting.

The Emily stuff is so heartbreaking. I absolutely believe her. I hate to use the word but I am shook at how much Creepshow gaslit her. Their insta conversation was a hard read/listen, with Emily being coerced into being kind to Creepshow. I'm sure we all know people like Emily who have personalities like this, who will backtrack when faced with conflict as they don't want to be an arsehole. I am so glad she got to speak her truth.

Some people are claiming her story doesn't add up 100% and the receipts aren't there. Like...Emily was an addict. She went through a lot of trauma with that, her sexual assault, the sex work she did and the stalking on top of that. We know those things can fuck people up and trauma does something to the brain. Not remembering exact details or dates or order of events doesn't make something less true. Even a small trauma, like the death of an elderly relative can leave someone in a hazy blur. I absolutely don't blame her for being a bit iffy with some of the details. Also I believe her just from how she spoke. She was trying to detach herself from it but one memory she recounted would every so often throughout the video absolutely break her, she'd either start crying or have a crack in her voice. Unless she's an incredibly talented voice actress, that shit isn't make up.

I wonder if Creepshow is in an abusive relationship with Andrew or not. They share a phone, they went without a roof over their heads for years without any real reason and Creepshow seems to have a strained relationship with her family. They apparently live in a shithole despite being well off... all red flags. Yes she is vocal online and creates her own content but I bet that's the only thing that keeps them afloat. He allows her to create her content because it gives them income. I think absolutely she should be held accountable for what she did to Emily regardless of if their relationship is abusive or not but I wonder if Andrew likes to pit his girls against one another...

Also urgh at the fatass dudebro commentary channels trying to be edgy about all this and taking it out of context. They're almost always annoying as fuck. I remember they all had drama with the iilluminaughtii (who is also just a trash human despite decent videos) where I felt like they were in the right and Tipster made a good video on her. As far as I'm aware they're not really the type of people to be close to Creepshow so it's weird they've basically took her side on everything.

Ps. I know Creepshow Art is a white woman but she always gives me fat geek girl black teenage girl Harry Potter stan with braces vibes, that's really specific I know, but I cannot believe she's a woman approaching her 30s.


Also sorry for the inevitable typos and stuff, I'm a mobilefag and I'm half asleep, will sort later.

 

[Burning Fanatic]

There's been a request made to move this thread out of PG. While I do think a YouTube Commentary megathread could work, I'd like to ask if @Obamarama or anyone else would be willing to rework or at least update the OP with new info. Either that, or if somebody could create a separate thread on Creepshow Art so that the relevant info here can be transferred over to the new thread.

 

[Midge Shelby1919]

I wonder if Creepshow is in an abusive relationship with Andrew or not. They share a phone, they went without a roof over their heads for years without any real reason and Creepshow seems to have a strained relationship with her family.

I know she’s close with her mom. She’s talked about her beautiful, angel of a mother before, and said in a video last month that (since CSA’s birthday and Mother’s Day are so close together) they were going to have some kind of mother-daughter day. I can’t remember exactly what video it was, but I intend to look after I find the one where she said she was homeless by choice.

As for her husband being abusive, I wouldn’t doubt it. I mean, she’s called him something along the lines of ‘most wonderful, most amazing man I know.’ But that sort of behavior isn’t quickly changed. And a part of me has always been skeptical of what her husband is like, since a lot of her story time videos show (even if they’re in doubt whether or not they actually happened) make Shannon seem like she doesn’t seem to be the best judge of character.

 

[Dave.]

There's been a request made to move this thread out of PG. While I do think a YouTube Commentary megathread could work, I'd like to ask if @Obamarama or anyone else would be willing to rework or at least update the OP with new info. Either that, or if somebody could create a separate thread on Creepshow Art so that the relevant info here can be transferred over to the new thread.

I think internet famous would be a fitting place to make a creepshow thread,

 

[Burning Fanatic]

I think internet famous would be a fitting place to make a creepshow thread,

Definitely Beauty Parlor.

 

[Dave.]

Definitely Beauty Parlor.

I don't know, does she do anything beauty related? Does drawing on a tablet for a video count?

 

[Red Mask]

What’s the issue with Illumninaughti? I love her videos. Let guess, another creator to be disillusioned with?

 

[tasty humane burger]

What’s the issue with Illumninaughti? I love her videos. Let guess, another creator to be disillusioned with?

I know he's trash but Tipster did a few good videos on her that detail most of it.

People critic her in general for pretending to be very source heavy and netural in her videos when really she isn't. She hires researchers and churns out videos similar to what others have made and acts above the rest of the anti MLM community, to the point that she says she didn't even know it existed. Despite her starting anti MLM commentary when she found the subrddit antiMLM.

The drama with her and the dudebros is that she made content with them but then someone made a fat joke (not even about her) and she cut them all off. I think it was mostly about Tommy C? She deleted every video she was involved with from the channel and now blocks anyone on Twitter who follows the guys involved. She's kicked people off her discord for engaging with these creators and generally just been very immature about her falling out with them. Tipster in his video pointed out that the iilluminaughtii once made a video mocking his mental health as part of her involvement with these guys, he found it funny but he used it to highlight her hypocrisy.

Here is Tommy C talking about her re this drama, I've not watched these personally:

Oreo dudebro:

She tries to get videos criticising her stuck down even though they come under fair use and she has coerced content creators into deleting their content. When she can't strike someone down, she will try and get someone else to. For example, someone's fan art of her was used in a critical video of her and she DMed the very small artist about it asking her to strike it.

There was a huge drama earlier this year because people accused her of stealing videos. A smaller anti MLM / commentary content creator called Cruel World Happy Mind reached out and said that people were telling her that Blair/iilluminaughtii basically rehashed one of her videos. CWHM was a fan and previously shouted jer out. Iirc, she was left on read by iilluminaughtii and when making a now deleted video about drama within the anti MLM community, CWHM brought up this drama. iilluminaughtii then slagged CWHM off on a podcast, she didn't name her but slated her videos and spoke about how she was so much better at research because her videos had 70+ sources and CWHM had like five, including Wikipedia and TMZ. CWHM responded in another deleted video and then iilluminaughtii planned to expose her on a Twitch live. The creators eventually sorted stuff out but CWHM was too nice essentially caved in.

I don't remember seeing too many videos about this at the time from bigger channels which speaks volumes. It was mostly smaller content creators.

A good video on this drama, small content creator but it was the one I watched before I saw Tipsters:

Tommy C on this (again, not watched):

 

[A.Shitposter]

In Emily's video she mentioned not being surprised by Shannon using trans slurs because she called her a pre op tranny and asked if her dick got cut off yet etc, but then goes on to talk about having kids and being a mom. Where's this tranny connection come from? Or us it just Shannon using lames jokes to make fun of Emily's looks because she has a strong jawline or whatever?

Saying a woman looks like a tranny is basic bitch shit.

It's also not surprising because Shannon posts on lolcow and is probably a regular, the entire offtopic section is full of massive terfs who can't go a single post without telling someone to dilate because they're insecure white women in their 30's who are mentally stuck in high school. The art youtuber threads are absolutely brimming with catty jealousy and cope posting trying to justify why they hate popular artists for simply having more subscriber. It's really not uncommon for youtubers to shill their own crap on there feigning hating them but nobody on lolcow actually clicks on the videos people link because they're only there to be validated.

Not to mention that Shannon got into hot water not too long ago after going after a trans artist with a small following for drawing comics of their own sexual abuse, which she blatantly called CP and then used said art as the thumbnail of her video and then linked to these adult comics and the artists accounts in her description to her following of minors. I already hate these kinds of people for their blatant virtue signalling over fucking nothing but now that Emily Artful has revealed that Shannon and School Shooter Retard have been holding actual CSEM over her head as blackmail for over a decade it's really all coming together.


The edgy commentary boy shit is just exhausting, they're so fucking fragile it's embarrassing. Being on this shitty website has opened my eyes to tactics that specific types of people use when they type and faux intellectual talking in circles and inventing a conversation that never happened in an attempt to make someone look bad and force them to apologize and admit guilt for something they didn't do is the worst.

 

[Näkki]

As far as I understand it, she's just a shit person who treats people shittily.

The one thing that got me annoyed for real, was her dog Video.

Said some shit about how she just had to get a special breed because her family had allergies. Then advocated for shelter dogs.

There's so little proof some dogs are hypoallergenic.. Its straight up a gamble. But she just had to get that one puppy, because clearly she was obsessed with a certain breed.

Sorry, that pretty much made me unsub. "I am holier than thou because I just had to get a special breed puppy thou there were no promises it would 100% be what I wanted it to be"

Rate me mad at the Internet. Shitty excuses to get a pure breed, then make a video about how it's bad. But she's excused because she had "reasons" .

The hypocrisy is real and gross.

 

[12345]

There's so little proof some dogs are hypoallergenic.. Its straight up a gamble.

Here's the thing, most people when they have allergies are to the dander, not the fur. You can't exactly eliminate skin growing and sloughing off on an animal. I mean keep them clean, sure. And if you're allergic to hair don't get a breed that sheds.

TMI maybe I went and had all the allergy scratches done and everything. Apparently, I'm allergic to cow dander. So yeah hypoallergenic dogs are just a huuuge cash grab and probably include puppy farms as well.

 

[Näkki]

Here's the thing, most people when they have allergies are to the dander, not the fur. You can't exactly eliminate skin growing and sloughing off on an animal. I mean keep them clean, sure. And if you're allergic to hair don't get a breed that sheds.

TMI maybe I went and had all the allergy scratches done and everything. Apparently, I'm allergic to cow dander. So yeah hypoallergenic dogs are just a huuuge cash grab and probably include puppy farms as well.

Exactly. There's no hypoallergenic dogs or even cats. It'd a gamble if someone will set off or not. Sometimes yes you do get lucky, but usually it's just a damn marketing ploy for breeding Mills.

Also sorry for your cow allergy. I mean it. Cows are big dogs and the most adorable. Just don't bring your dogs around any when they're free roaming. They can be damn vicious and will fuck your shit up. In my country at least.

But she was special. She was "allowed" to get a puppy while advocating for shelters and how puppy Mills are bad.

Especially since it was about family she doesn't even see regularly. Like bitch, leave the dog at home then. I have allergic family members and they have never met mine. I not once considered getting a puppy mill dog for them. Why would anyone?

Then she kept on complaining about how her dog had health issues and whatnot. Yeah, of course it would.

Most countries still have kill shelters. Actually go rescue one. Or two, or three. Why the fuck support shaddy breeders because you're so spechiaaaal.

 

[12345]

See I stopped watching her before the dog thing. I did like some of her MLM videos for info, but her voice just... Even speeding it up a bit it didn't really sound normal to me. And when she got big it seemed to go to her head and that was enough to tune me off of her. So by the time I heard about it she was shitty to people on discord or something.

 

[Näkki]

See I stopped watching her before the dog thing. I did like some of her MLM videos for info, but her voice just... Even speeding it up a bit it didn't really sound normal to me. And when she got big it seemed to go to her head and that was enough to tune me off of her. So by the time I heard about it she was shitty to people on discord or something.

Oh, do you have info on that? These days I trust my gut on youtubers. Creepshow, illumii, plenty others rub me wrong. Usually seems like I've been making the right choices.

 

[12345]

Maybe in the videos that were posted earlier? By the time it was happening I had long since stopped watching her, I saw Tipster mention something on Twitter and something about mods. She was nice and friendly in person then turned around and shit on her fans. Not really anything considering everything else going on. I want to say look around March but I'm an admitted stoner and not really giving a fuck at the time make my memory unreliable.

ETA: Private shit-talking didn't really compare to the CSA stuff and if it happened now only people who dislike her would really note it. It seemed like that much of a nothing burger.