The justice system works pretty slowly, so I wouldn't be surprised.
Zak Kayes / Kayden Seyak / FlameAmigo619 / ToonKriticY2K / CarToonZ / Zakkie Wuskers - Sociopath brony e-celeb turned plushie fucker and child sex tourist; currently in hiding
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Bambi Sammich
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https://hooktube.com/watch?v=vgTD7JEe1Tc
Glass of Water ADDENDUM - Blame and Groom
The problem is that Pathwork Heart or whoever she is..isn't a "victim" if you listen to her video its obvious, unless she's leaving out important details, she chose to stay in a chatroom where she didn't like that people didn't remember her pronouns. Very few people could help her with her real abuse (if such a thing is true) at the hands of her mother. But all she had to do was...leave the goddamned discord. Why didn't she? Because she was hungry for horse fame of all things. She ate out of Toon's palm because she wanted to get youtube famous. Did Toon promise to pay her for art and then didn't pay her? No? He just begged for it and she gave it to him? Well she's the idiot. Ssssooo...yeah I don't feel bad for her at all. At least not because of this. And seriously how dare she compare "muh pronouns were disrespected" to active grooming and sexual manipulation of a child. It blows my mind that Patchwork thinks her non issue is even comparable.
There was also the other woman who actualy slept with Toon (ew) but she at least was smart enough to blame herself for that giant mistake. It takes two to tango. And cheat.
Peet is right, justice is part of the process but Peet is also wrong in a way. Nobody is saying Toon shouldn't face justice, and I don't like how he's implying thats what either Dr. Wolf or SilverQuill said. I don't like what Wolf said but he's really saying the same thing Peet is saying work through your emotions and move on just in a different way.
Well more like Peet is saying it's right to stay angry FOREVER AND EVER. Also didn't Peet abuse people for a long time online himself? Bit of a hypocrite...
Edit: Thanks for the advice chadmuska.
Glass of Water ADDENDUM - Blame and Groom
The problem is that Pathwork Heart or whoever she is..isn't a "victim" if you listen to her video its obvious, unless she's leaving out important details, she chose to stay in a chatroom where she didn't like that people didn't remember her pronouns. Very few people could help her with her real abuse (if such a thing is true) at the hands of her mother. But all she had to do was...leave the goddamned discord. Why didn't she? Because she was hungry for horse fame of all things. She ate out of Toon's palm because she wanted to get youtube famous. Did Toon promise to pay her for art and then didn't pay her? No? He just begged for it and she gave it to him? Well she's the idiot. Ssssooo...yeah I don't feel bad for her at all. At least not because of this. And seriously how dare she compare "muh pronouns were disrespected" to active grooming and sexual manipulation of a child. It blows my mind that Patchwork thinks her non issue is even comparable.
There was also the other woman who actualy slept with Toon (ew) but she at least was smart enough to blame herself for that giant mistake. It takes two to tango. And cheat.
Peet is right, justice is part of the process but Peet is also wrong in a way. Nobody is saying Toon shouldn't face justice, and I don't like how he's implying thats what either Dr. Wolf or SilverQuill said. I don't like what Wolf said but he's really saying the same thing Peet is saying work through your emotions and move on just in a different way.
Well more like Peet is saying it's right to stay angry FOREVER AND EVER. Also didn't Peet abuse people for a long time online himself? Bit of a hypocrite...
Edit: Thanks for the advice chadmuska.
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Can you use hooktube or mirror the whole thing onto mixtape? Direct embeds (especially now that we have insane google people breathing down nulls neck) for this situation are a bad idea. Or for any lolcow situation, really.
Bambi Sammich
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Whoops! Okay I'll try to do...that. I've never had to do that before so I just removed the video from my post.
just swap "youtube" with hooktube in a videos URL and put the new url into the post. it can't embed but clicking a link is worth the two seconds of inconvienience.
https://www.equestriadaily.com/2018/02/editorial-how-can-we-protect-young-fans.html
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Editorial: How Can We Protect Young Fans?
by MarvelandPonder
Two weeks ago, the fandom at large was made aware that a prominent member of the analyst community allegedly engaged in predatory, pedophilic behaviours with young girls. I'm sure you're aware.
In the aftermath of this, we find ourselves trying to deal with our disgust, hurt, fear, disappointment, and anger in any number of ways towards ToonKriticY2K, which is necessary and pertinent.
But one question we all want addressed is how we can better protect the younger fans in and around this community.
As we slowly move on from our initial feelings, I think this is a vital part of constructively dealing with not only any grief and anger in the moment, but preventing these incidents from happening again as much as we can.
I'm going to continue this conversation others have started in the hopes that we'll find some realistic, workable solutions.
I wanted to make a note of this because I think we really need to make a distinction. If you haven't seen Dr. Wolf's statement on ToonKritic, he explains his feelings and says it's better to forgive for our own sake in order to move on.
Which may be helpful for those who felt betrayed by someone they thought was a friend, but not to the victims themselves.
When it comes to sexual abuse, which pedophilia of this nature would classify as easily (even if it was online/not physical), forgiving the abuser isn't a goal of clinical therapy. In fact, having dealt with loved ones who've been abused myself, I know how important it can be to recognize abuse as what it is: something terrible, so the victim knows they're not imagining it, or making a bigger deal of it than necessary.
Suri's terrible, Coco. It's okay to acknowledge that.
For the victims' sake, even as we deal with our own feelings on the matter, I think we should focus on the existence of pedophiles within the fandom as a real problem.
And it is a problem. This silly pony show we've all found something special in is for all ages, and that's always going to mean young fans will be vulnerable to the predators hiding in the masses of well-meaning, harmless older fans.
The next question that reflexively pops up is: Is that an issue for us to handle?
The "The Parents Should Do It" Argument
In the internet-age (to use a dated term), parents have a lot more to protect their children from than ever before.
So I think the knee-jerk reaction to something like this is to say the parents should've done more, or should somehow police who their kids and teenagers talk to on their internet.
And, look, while I absolutely hold parents accountable, being a 2000s kid myself born and raised on the internet I know it's impossible for parents to protect against everything, especially when their kids become teenagers. I doubt teenagers are going to have parental blocks on their Skype and Discord chats.
Parents do hold a lot of responsibility to protect their kids, but can't do everything, and we're not the younger fans' parents, nor should we try to be.
All the same, in this case, saying we don't have a role in protecting them is also saying we don't care to try. So, what can we do?
Well, I thought about injecting my own opinions here on things like censorship, but at this point, I think I should pass this question onto you. Even if we make the fandom a safer place for kids and kick the pedophiles where it hurts, we can't control for everything, so what do you think we can do about it?
Standing together on the issue of pedophilia is still hugely important, especially when we have victims currently in the fandom who've suffered at the hands of someone famous, perhaps at one time even beloved in the fandom. Not to mention countless others unrelated to the alleged ToonKritic situation (I say "alleged" for legal reasons, not because I don't believe the proof).
If we care, as a fandom, about protecting young fans, we should do something to show we care, which starts at the very least with a conversation.
This is a complex issue, and has been for years, but I have to believe we need to start somewhere. So let's talk about it openly. And, of course, urge everyone to report any behaviour of this nature they know about when it arises.
That way, hopefully we can use this horrible case as motivation to prevent others like it.
Bambi Sammich
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Honestly I don't think this is even a conversation worth having. We don't allow kids into nightclubs. So we shouldn't allow children near adult bronies. Not without guardians and boundaries if even that. Its just that simple. The easiest way to keep your kids safe is to keep them away from strange adults. And I don't necessarily mean strange 'because they like mlp' but any good parent is going to keep a close eye on their children.
What makes it worse is bronies are a fringe fandom. And they should stay that way. Foalcon, Autism, various avenues of degeneracy plague this fandom. All of it the disgusting sewage run off from furry and other sex obsessed fandoms. Nothing can be done. Children were never welcome. The entire point of being a brony is the idea that it is acceptable for ADULTS to like little girl things. Not Adults and children liking little girl things. Children were NEVER part of the brony equation. On top of that bronies will scream at you for trying to change them. Scream like ape babies if you try to take away their kiddy horse porn. That shows how strongly they care about kids and want to change....0 percent.
What makes it worse is bronies are a fringe fandom. And they should stay that way. Foalcon, Autism, various avenues of degeneracy plague this fandom. All of it the disgusting sewage run off from furry and other sex obsessed fandoms. Nothing can be done. Children were never welcome. The entire point of being a brony is the idea that it is acceptable for ADULTS to like little girl things. Not Adults and children liking little girl things. Children were NEVER part of the brony equation. On top of that bronies will scream at you for trying to change them. Scream like ape babies if you try to take away their kiddy horse porn. That shows how strongly they care about kids and want to change....0 percent.
Went onto a thread on "Toddlercon" Toon on another site and was immediately met with a brony screaming that all people deserve infinite forgiveness BECAUZ DA BIBBLE and JEEZUS. (Jesus loves pedos, you know?)
Forgiveness is earned. You earn it by owning up to what you did, for one, as well as accepting the repercussions and attempting to make it right.
Toony-Bad-Touch, however, responded by being a complete degenerate coward and running. He doesn't "deserve" anything but jail time, and possibly to be flushed down a shitter like his hat was. Hmm.
Do they give people swirlies in prison?
Forgiveness is earned. You earn it by owning up to what you did, for one, as well as accepting the repercussions and attempting to make it right.
Toony-Bad-Touch, however, responded by being a complete degenerate coward and running. He doesn't "deserve" anything but jail time, and possibly to be flushed down a shitter like his hat was. Hmm.
Do they give people swirlies in prison?
Bambi Sammich
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What the Bible says about pedophiles straight out of the mouth of Jesus.
"If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. "- Matthew 18:6
Yeah don't fuck with kids or you get dealt with. Thus says the Lord.
"If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. "- Matthew 18:6
Yeah don't fuck with kids or you get dealt with. Thus says the Lord.
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Exactly. And furry is one overfull, overflowing septic tank to begin with.
Even if there weren't pedos involved, these people can't tolerate ACTUAL children in their fandom and events, because they THEY can't be the 'big fun-loving kid.'
VermilionFluttershy
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I do see where you're coming from here, and, yeah, I've met a number of bronies like that. I do the same thing now that I did when I was more active in the fandom. I'd point, laugh, and tell them that they are wastes of space and bandwidth, while occasionally telling them that their pony waifu of choice didn't love them.
On the other hand, I met some bronies that got into the show after watching it with their kids or their younger siblings. Others were hesitant, but gave the show a chance and were surprised at how much they liked it. (I'm in that category) For us, we didn't care if kids were in the fandom. Hell, we raised money for several younger fans who had health issues and couldn't afford treatment.
But, like with any group of people, you have sick fucks like Peet, Digibro, and TK. However, they have been hit with hate from so many sides, not because they are/were bronies, but because they're just shitty people in general. Hell, recently GAMERGHAZI of all places told Peet he was full of shit. Every time he tried to defend his bs, he got downvoted to hell and back. (And it was HILARIOUS to watch) Even THEY somewhat defended Josh.
Inkrose did what all underage fans SHOULD be doing: Whenever she went to these cons, she brought her mom with her. She admitted that this one action is likely the reason that TK didn't try any shady shit with her.
Yeah, this fandom can be fucking toxic (which is one of the reasons why I jumped ship about 2 years ago, even though I do still like earlier seasons) and yeah, there were way too many furries coming in with their more disgusting behaviors. But in the end, many of us just wanted to enjoy the show in peace.
Well, we should of known from the beginning: Only grown ups are allowed to enjoy shows for little girls
I'm a bit baffled that every single person with a channel in the brony community is shilling out their two sheckles on this matter like their opinions mean something. I stopped following some of these guys a long time ago, and I'm not even sure who half of them are, especially Toony here. I watched a whole lot of these "expose" videos to mixed response. Some dripped with deeply disturbed and dizzying emotions, while others left a strange feeling in my mouth.
It wasn't until the only person who I still actively follow, DawnOverSomewhere, an animator, brought this up in one of his Let's Plays that I could put a finger on the source of this perplexing impression (https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=ZgpnHf-VYhs)
Every single one of these people are talking out to us behind their cartoon masks, and that really just feels off. If you're going to tell us your or friends' abuse stories, maybe put away the cartoon horse gif for a bit. I recognize that there may be a "personal brand" thing going on as well, but I think a single video with such a disgusting topic could be done with something more visually suited for the tone. And really, if you must give us your opinions on the matter, and you don't treat this touchy topic right, it comes off as egotistical and selfish. Using drama to snatch up them views.
But that's just my two sheckles. Bronies gonna brony, and I'll just sit back with my kettle corn and alcoholic orange soda-pop and enjoy the show.
It wasn't until the only person who I still actively follow, DawnOverSomewhere, an animator, brought this up in one of his Let's Plays that I could put a finger on the source of this perplexing impression (https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=ZgpnHf-VYhs)
Every single one of these people are talking out to us behind their cartoon masks, and that really just feels off. If you're going to tell us your or friends' abuse stories, maybe put away the cartoon horse gif for a bit. I recognize that there may be a "personal brand" thing going on as well, but I think a single video with such a disgusting topic could be done with something more visually suited for the tone. And really, if you must give us your opinions on the matter, and you don't treat this touchy topic right, it comes off as egotistical and selfish. Using drama to snatch up them views.
But that's just my two sheckles. Bronies gonna brony, and I'll just sit back with my kettle corn and alcoholic orange soda-pop and enjoy the show.
Exactly. There's a time where you have to take that stupid 'persona/fursona/OC' mask off and just BE WHO YOU REALLY ARE, especially when it's something serious as this.
Not sure if I'd blame other fandoms for this. I'd simply blame people being stupid and the internet for letting them show the world that stupidity. At the same time I feel people should be able to post what they want (within the law, of course). Honestly, you'd think more people would be able to keep the after dark parts of what they're into separate from everything thats fine for public and whatnot. Not calling out any specifics, because I find this too prevalent in nearly any fandom.
DRWolf's smartguy shtick with his narration is also rather grating for this very reason.
https://twitter.com/patchie_the_cat/status/962459204316364800
https://archive.md/eTuGU
https://imgur.com/2VHsiSK
Alleged new skype has shown up.
He contacted Jerry Peet yesterday in that skype account
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B-But pedophiles have feelings too, y'know.
