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I often wonder, what it's like to raise a child that then becomes a trashy nude model for some alternative website, and then who's greatest claim to fame is banging people to get where she's at. Like, how would you process that the little child you raised turned out like that.
Some people are such sociopaths that they don't care how it's done, so long as they're able to bask in the peripheral glow of their kids' successes.

I don't know if her father was like this, of course-- it's more probable that he had no idea what the actual story was, just what she told him/what the mainstream media reported on. Still, though, trash human beings will always be among us.
 

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Some people are such sociopaths that they don't care how it's done, so long as they're able to bask in the peripheral glow of their kids' successes.

I don't know if her father was like this, of course-- it's more probable that he had no idea what the actual story was, just what she told him/what the mainstream media reported on. Still, though, trash human beings will always be among us.
It really comes down to nature/nurture, and whether you believe some people can be 'born bad', where personality disorders come from, etc. I have no ability to speculate on her parents, and don't care enough to try and parse any truths from her book, but I suspect in this case, her parents were just average, maybe tried to raise her in a way that clashed with her personality, but it's really on her the way she turned out. She clearly has psychological and/or psychiatric issues, and I don't know how much you can blame parents for that.

Plus, y'know. The guy's dead and his daughter wasn't a spree killer or anything, just a cunt. I reckon he tried to see the best in her, ignored the bad stuff, and loved her as a father, rather than being a sociopath that begat a sociopath. I agree that it's more likely that she can't blame her problems on her parents, though I bet she tries when she needs to.
 

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Building off of what Zoe tweeted to Elon, do you guys think that's how she talked to Eron and the five guys? She thought negging Elon would get him in her pants, maybe that's how those other guys wanted to be and were treated by Blowy.
Probably not, she already "had" Eron and from what I remember he described the relationship as dead. Five Guys were different, they "had" something she wanted and was several rungs up the ladder from Eron. She likely did the teen goth girl "I am so distressed bu-huu I need you RN" as a form of emotional manipulation but that would have been to suck them further in. Fucking goths.

She could safely push Eron around without consequence and I would assume that is from past experiences in similar relationships where she was the alpha. Or so she thought, the Zoepost must have been a rude awakening, in the past no one had ever spilled the beans on her and the information that trickled in afterwards shows that there was a lot that could have tarnished her fake name over the years.

There's a certain irony in all of this stemming from her dating a wimpy SocJus:er that then made a Tumblr-style callout post of her abusive behavior.
 

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There's a certain irony in all of this stemming from her dating a wimpy SocJus:er that then made a Tumblr-style callout post of her abusive behavior.
And he instantly turned into a terrorist alt-right Nazi even though he was the biggest soy boy cuck imaginable. You can look at pictures of Chelsay next to this fucking manlet and all tales of abuse are an instant joke.
 

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And he instantly turned into a terrorist alt-right Nazi even though he was the biggest soy boy cuck imaginable. You can look at pictures of Chelsay next to this fucking manlet and all tales of abuse are an instant joke.
I wonder something. If he and Zoe were well known before the Zoe post, would he have had a lolcow thread? Would he have ended up like Allison Rapp's husband, where we'd get to watch the uncuckening in real time?
 

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I wonder something. If he and Zoe were well known before the Zoe post, would he have had a lolcow thread? Would he have ended up like Allison Rapp's husband, where we'd get to watch the uncuckening in real time?
He wouldn't have had his own thread, because like the cuck he was, Zoe would have been the more important one. He would have been discussed in her thread, like :suffering:
 
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Any new updates on Zoe Quinn's partner Robbi Rodriguez? Last we heard, he purged 99% of his tweets on Twitter and calls it a parody account after posting buttholes to Ethan and his followers of ComicsGate.
 

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I wonder something. If he and Zoe were well known before the Zoe post, would he have had a lolcow thread? Would he have ended up like Allison Rapp's husband, where we'd get to watch the uncuckening in real time?
To be fair no - Eron didn't do what Jake did.

Eron didn't have much of a social media presence before Zoe and a lot of the Zoepost was of private correspondence that he chose to make public when he decided it was for the best to break with the usual civil approach. So prior to the whole hot mess, there was no drama to observe online, because it was all taking place in private channels. Eron only went public after he rumbled Zoe.

Though in terms of uncuckening - he was at first really puzzled by the whole ordeal until people informed him that Zoe was using classic abuse tactics. His thoughts early on were mostly that he couldn't understand why she seemed amazing at first, and then became a horrid person and toyed with him like she did. He was a lot softer on Zoe originally, got a bit better once he had more distance from the whole thing - which is fairly common for people who have been subject to emotional abuse. They see it easier with time and once they are properly away from that person. Eron I think reacted fairly much the way most people would when they learn their girlfriend is the village bike despite telling them to "stay pure"

(Plus like he didn't let Zoe whore him out like Alison did with Jake, just sayin')

Jake was different, while not exactly recorded here as the farms came in late to the party. Jake had spent literal years using social media as his security blanket and pathetically trying to pretend the relationship was okay while Alison was out whoring herself and he spent the night crying into tubs of Ben & Jerry's. The denial process was very public, as was the way the marriage broke down after.

To be fair to him. He caught on quickly that the best thing he could do was limit what he was saying on public profile and generally shut up from the point he properly left Alison, outside his coding camp stuff and the odd happy post with his new partner. The rest was Alisons doing till presumably the new boyfriend or her parents hammered the lesson in too
 
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You know, that makes me think. Gjoni posted a long, rambling blog post exposing a former partner as an emotional abuser and serial cheater. If he were a woke woman instead of a FUCKING WHITE MALE, he'd probably have been heralded as a hero.
If he had just trooned out and claimed to be a woman, he'd be the hero and Chelsay would be the devil.
 

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Jake was different, while not exactly recorded here as the farms came in late to the party. Jake had spent literal years using social media as his security blanket and pathetically trying to pretend the relationship was okay while Alison was out whoring herself and he spent the night crying into tubs of Ben & Jerry's. The denial process was very public, as was the way the marriage broke down after.
I don't want to drag us too far off-topic, but I don't subscribed to the "hypercucked into oblivion" narrative on Jake Rapp. I think people just sort of assume it because he's a soy lifestyler, and Alison was initially the "power" half of the couple with the high-profile job while he was the barista. My read on the situation is that Jake was just as much into the weird sex/polyamory/whoring bullshit as Alison. And when discussing the breakdown of the marriage, let's not overlook that he went on to marry the girl he was cucking Alison with.
 

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I wonder something. If he and Zoe were well known before the Zoe post, would he have had a lolcow thread? Would he have ended up like Allison Rapp's husband, where we'd get to watch the uncuckening in real time?
I doubt it. What little I saw of him struck me as being pretty tame and mild mannered. I don't think he has the drama-whore factor needed to constitute a cow thread. Admittedly I didn't dig very deep, but at a glance he's just so damned... nice.

Honestly, I'm kind of surprised he even wrote the Zoe-post.
 
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You know, that makes me think. Gjoni posted a long, rambling blog post exposing a former partner as an emotional abuser and serial cheater. If he were a woke woman instead of a FUCKING WHITE MALE, he'd probably have been heralded as a hero.
That's exactly what would have happened. Conversely, if he'd just disseminated it privately around industry circles and kept it off public webforums, it would have avoided the resulting autism firestorm. Chances are Chelsea would have just faded into oblivion, popped out some cuck's kid in her thirties and tormented both of them for the rest of their lives. But he was angry at being fucked over and had a hefty revenge boner going, and it ultimately fucked him even harder.


I doubt it. What little I saw of him struck me as being pretty tame and mild mannered. I don't think he has the drama-whore factor needed to constitute a cow thread. Admittedly I didn't dig very deep, but at a glance he's just so damned... nice.

Honestly, I'm kind of surprised he even wrote the Zoe-post.
Eron seems like some average IT drone who made shitty choices in women in his early twenties and paid for it. The Zoe Post was likely a temporary lapse in judgment that came from a mental snap from being fucked with for so long. He's kept his head down since then and moved on with his life, which is more than we can say for her.
 

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I don't want to drag us too far off-topic, but I don't subscribed to the "hypercucked into oblivion" narrative on Jake Rapp. I think people just sort of assume it because he's a soy lifestyler, and Alison was initially the "power" half of the couple with the high-profile job while he was the barista. My read on the situation is that Jake was just as much into the weird sex/polyamory/whoring bullshit as Alison. And when discussing the breakdown of the marriage, let's not overlook that he went on to marry the girl he was cucking Alison with.
I was kind of abbreviating the whole mess, I don't think Jake was unwilling at all. They both were bad to each other in their own ways and tried to make the wrong a right by going "eh I guess we'll just be poly" after discovering they had both cheated on each other. But I also followed both of them on twitter waaaaay back after the first treehouse live, and Jake's twitter was generally always about how he was having yet an awesome me-only night while Alison was off doing things and asking the thirsty fanboys to buy her things. It always had that sort of "fake happy" vibe to it, this was waaaay before the escort thing actually happened too.

I'm sure he happilly went along with it, but just because you think it's right, doesn't mean it's making you happy. He's kind of a coward, but he seemed happier with the secondary girlfriend anyway.

That's exactly what would have happened. Conversely, if he'd just disseminated it privately around industry circles and kept it off public webforums, it would have avoided the resulting autism firestorm. Chances are Chelsea would have just faded into oblivion, popped out some cuck's kid in her thirties and tormented both of them for the rest of their lives. But he was angry at being fucked over and had a hefty revenge boner going, and it ultimately fucked him even harder.
I'm pretty sure Eron mentioned that he tried this prior and the industry people would just stonewall him. People forget - Zoe really was being prepped to be the next Phil Fish at the time and behind the scenes people genuinely felt that her "gaming feminist role model" status needed to be protected at all costs. Nobody wanted to spread the word because they all knew they would be out of the clique so fast if they even tried. She really did have a lot of sway at the time, which she's long since lost.

A lot of callouts don't tend to have that much traction, but it wasn't helped by nearly every game journalist of the time feeling that they specifically had to denounce the Zoepost rather than say, ignore it or just address it in a neutral fashion. Basically full on Barbra Streisand effect.
 

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Eron seems like some average IT drone who made shitty choices in women in his early twenties and paid for it. The Zoe Post was likely a temporary lapse in judgment that came from a mental snap from being fucked with for so long. He's kept his head down since then and moved on with his life, which is more than we can say for her.
CHELSAY! reminds me of a couple of girls/women that I know and have known, down to the fake name and everything, that got me thinking. What is the age gap between them? People like Quinn often go for guys younger than themselves, a bit unusual for women in their mid-to-late twenties but that's what a certain type of person does.

I was surprised that the age difference was just three years, when the Zoepost was made Gjoni was from what I can find 24 while Quinn was 27, a bit closer to 28 than 27 if we're counting months like a sperg(and I'm counting months like a sperg), but they had been together for a year or something at that point? That's not insignificant and also a bit unusual but very predictable. Is it arrested development? Insecurity of some kind?
 

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