Factorio Thread -

[Slap47]

Came back to this because I remembered, why do internet commies always go "Venezuela Iphone 6 Gorillion dead" every time anyone criticizes it? Honest question, since it always reads to me as these people mocking the suffering of people in Venezuela or any other communist regime.

They take issue with the idea that it is the attempts at the ideology itself that kills people. This is basically "not real attempt at communism".

 

[TVStactic]

I have no intention of playing with you nerds but I vote pure angel because I want you nerds to suffer and be miserable.

come on nigga. you want them to be miserable in their own autism sim.
that's like wanting a fish to drown.

Yeah I don't know what the hell that is either.
As for the factorio dev I don't think he's used to dealing with woke people so he's probably falling into common pitfalls of arguing back and giving them blood in the water.

someone really should warn the dev to stop that, possibly with 4chan or kiwifarms screncaps to prove you don't waste that much time talking with woke retards.

If he wants us to write clean code: Cool and good. We have a dozen standards to write maintainable code and linters to keep us honest.

being honest clean code only works with one mindset and that is the academia one.
professionally as long as you comment propely what the hell your spaghetti is about then it's fine, my programming teachers oft pestered my class to do clean code and whatnot but clean code takes time to write, a thing that professional mindsets don't have is time since they need to be ahead of their competition.

 

[DumbDude42]

being honest clean code only works with one mindset and that is the academia one.
professionally as long as you comment propely what the hell your spaghetti is about then it's fine, my programming teachers oft pestered my class to do clean code and whatnot but clean code takes time to write, a thing that professional mindsets don't have is time since they need to be ahead of their competition.

this is how your project ends up drowning in technical debt after a couple years of development
your point about time is good though, kovarex mentions the same in his post too - it is near impossible to convince shareholders that 'wasting' time on cleaning up code early on is worth doing, because they have no understanding of what happens otherwise, so a lot of projects end up not doing it

 

[Kane Lives]

this is how your project ends up drowning in technical debt after a couple years of development
your point about time is good though, kovarex mentions the same in his post too - it is near impossible to convince shareholders that 'wasting' time on cleaning up code early on is worth doing, because they have no understanding of what happens otherwise, so a lot of projects end up not doing it

This always happens when non-technical managers get the final say over everything. Occasionally, you get the "good" PM who at least learned enough to shut up and listen when the experts are talking, but by far and large these pencil pushers are a large reason why we get spaghetti code. You always get these wide-eyed fucktards who think they're finally the one to get the holy grail of fast, cheap and quality, and ends up driving the project into doing none of those.

 

[bonghost]

furfag BTFO (always link whenever possible, nigga)

I found a video of the dude. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKPb429plS0 fucking NUTS

 

[Dyn]

Because common conservative talking points in America regarding communism are "Venezuela is communist and in a shit state, communism has killed millions of people, you hate capitalism yet have an iPhone" etc. Since American conservatives do harp on these points a lot, it is often an effective rebuttal, even if it's a rebuttal against strawman versions of those arguments. However, an American trying to use that line of argument against a Czech, who probably personally knows people who remember the USSR invasion of Czechoslovakia and the brutal crackdowns afterwards, is in pretty bad taste and not particularly relevant to his point about a nasty person contributing to a field. They were just buttmad that a Czech rightfully pointed out that the Communist governments in eastern Europe sucked.

In the former Eastern Bloc, anti-communism is basically a liberal ideology. You find it concentrated in the university-educated, white collar, urban and younger demographics, who generally want EU integration and immigration and globalisation. If you go out into the sticks and ask some factory-job boomers what they think about it, you'll find a lot more "things were perfectly fine back then and capitalist libtards are ruining our country" attitudes. Kovarex doesn't seem the slightest bit right-wing ; from what I can see, he's the perfect model of an eastern bloc progressive, and eastern progressives hate commies like western progressives hate cops.

But these retards are so fucking Americentric that they immediately rush to calling him a 'far-right conservative' because they can't wrap their tiny little heads around the fact that communism is the conservative opinion when you're in an ex-communist country.

 

[JimmerSnail]

The founder of the game, kovarex, has gotten into an argument with the community because he's too based

>I won't even search him up. You know why? Because I don't care at all. I don't care if he cheats on his wife, is a bigot, or pays proper tips in restaurant. These things are simply not relevant. If Stalin had a good writeup on programming, would linking that be dangerous, because some people might read it, start liking HIM, thus start liking communism and the ineviteble mass murder that follows it? Is this how little we trust other individuals when it comes to access to information? I personally trust my readers to have the ability to create their own opinions instead of blindly following whatever says the person they like.

time to buy 80 copies of factorio then.

 

[HeyYou]

In the former Eastern Bloc, anti-communism is basically a liberal ideology. You find it concentrated in the university-educated, white collar, urban and younger demographics, who generally want EU integration and immigration and globalisation. If you go out into the sticks and ask some factory-job boomers what they think about it, you'll find a lot more "things were perfectly fine back then and capitalist libtards are ruining our country" attitudes. Kovarex doesn't seem the slightest bit right-wing ; from what I can see, he's the perfect model of an eastern bloc progressive, and eastern progressives hate commies like western progressives hate cops.

But these retards are so fucking Americentric that they immediately rush to calling him a 'far-right conservative' because they can't wrap their tiny little heads around the fact that communism is the conservative opinion when you're in an ex-communist country.

That's what happens when you can't imagine politics as anything more complicated than a straight line to communism, so any dislike of communism must be from reactionary right-wingers.

 

[TVStactic]

time to buy 80 copies of factorio then.

send me some and i'll play with you on konrad's party server.

I wonder why the game journos didn't pounce on this with their usual smear jobs. It's fine to celebrate that the trannies got btfo'd, but this probably would've gone the opposite way if Kotaku and Polygon had written a few articles about Kovarex' Nawzeeeism.

well, it's a non-burgerian developer which lives in a place that was almost assraped by communists. they can't spin it at all since in story the czechs gave land to the nazis in hope they would be on friendly terms BUT...
there is as mentioned another fact that the steam reviews are all positive and literally tell the cancel culture mob to fuck off.
pcgamer has no saying of this at all...
maybe because it's extremely difficult to spin this unless kovarex ends up saying something that he forgets to put a period on it and allows for easy interpretation of "it's baaaad"
giving spotlight to this won't help either because it can turn into GamerGate 2 - Eletric Bogaloo anti woke edition since E3 2021 was literally the woke gaming show and people weren't happy about it.

Looky, looky what twitter recommend those who opened that link

spoiler that shit, nigga. it's NFSL
also
> badoo
> telegram
> cyka moon runes

are you catfishing people or farming nudes?

 

[There's light at the end]

https://twitter.com/cigsender/status/1405857941018796035

Fucking troons, man.

Looky, looky what twitter recommend those who opened that link

Spoiler: NSFL. Open at your own risk

badoo
> telegram
> cyka moon runes

Not gonna deny anything

 

[Silhouette]

Man I really hate the way nckl writes, none of the stuff he's put in those threads come off as good faith.

 

[Daddy O'Shaughnessy]

I found a video of the dude. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKPb429plS0 fucking NUTS

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What a sad man.

 

[Large]

Came back to this because I remembered, why do internet commies always go "Venezuela Iphone 6 Gorillion dead" every time anyone criticizes it? Honest question, since it always reads to me as these people mocking the suffering of people in Venezuela or any other communist regime.

Venezuela - Venezuela is commonly used as an example of a failed attempt at socialism, and commies got tired of writing rants about how it wasn't real socialism/everything the media says about Venezuela is a lie perpetuated by migrants from Venezuela who were ackshually all burgeoise in their home country and are therefore subhuman scum who deserve violent murderrape
Iphone - This guy explained it well:

It started as a rebuttal of their critics pointing out that many of them advocate communism (despite its litany of visible failures), are on SSDI/Welfare/Live with their parents or the like, constantly complain about financial hardship, and then post shit from a 600 dollar iphone while wearing designer clothing, buying expensive consumer tat, and eating expensive take-out all the time.

Basically they got so assmad that people pointed out that they're privileged shitters that make terrible financial decisions that, as is usually the tradition with leftist memes, they repackaged the criticism into a strawman variant of it and used it to bitch (something true of them calling other people snowflakes, for example).

six bajilion - It's usually "100 million dead", and is a refference to the estimate of communism-related deaths from the book "The Black Book of Communism", which commies consider to be absolutely false and lying. IDK why this guy is using the funny holocaust denial number instead of 100, maybe he's a fascist femboy or something.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

We can call fag a fag, we can write and say whatever the hell we want to westerners and nothing will happen. We can do blackface, we can joke about niggers.
Seeing the westerners going apeshit is, honestly, one of my personal delights. Seeing american internet trannies trying to cancel or harm Eastern european person, only to realise they cant do jack shit is one of the best sights in the world. Not even the platform would help to cancel those people, because they are from another countries.

It's sad that post-Communist countries, despite not having explicit freedom of speech, are the only countries that seem to have any. You should probably consider getting protected free speech while you've still got the chance.

 

[Zero0]

They take issue with the idea that it is the attempts at the ideology itself that kills people. This is basically "not real attempt at communism".

I've really given up on the conversation, they can always fall back on "It wasn't communism because communism implies no state", the thing is, the only way you can be a "stateless country" is if you don't have sovereignty.

Example, Catalonia, Hong kong, etc.

 

[Corn Flakes]

It's sad that post-Communist countries, despite not having explicit freedom of speech, are the only countries that seem to have any. You should probably consider getting protected free speech while you've still got the chance.

Easy there. They get free speech on things their government doesn't care about. But talk shit about the wrong things in a lot of those places and they risk losing more than "just" their jobs. Probably not so much in good ol' Czechia, but they're more the exception rather than the rule.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

I found a video of the dude. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKPb429plS0 fucking NUTS

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Of course he's a fatty with a nose ring.

What is with furfags lately and the color magenta? They're starting to make me hate that color.

Easy there. They get free speech on things their government doesn't care about. But talk shit about the wrong things in a lot of those places and they risk losing more than "just" their jobs. Probably not so much in good ol' Czechia, but they're more the exception rather than the rule.

Yeah, you guys still have hate speech laws & those are designed specifically to stop political dissent. You lot should consider getting a 1A asap before it gets worse.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

The irony of course is that the Velvet Revolution that happened in Prague was a completely revolutionary protest and the sort of thing that would surely inspire the 'Occupy X' generation growing up but instead they ignore this because Communism wasn't that bad apparently. Pretty telling when the Chinese tried their own Velvet Revolution, the tanks turned them into pink paste.

I really wish Commie lovers watched "The Lives of Others" before posting their hot political takes. Being mostly furry artists, most of them would be targeted and straight up gaslit by the Stasi into giving the government enough evidence to put them away for life.

 

[Mullti Port RDRAM]

I am enjoying the shit out of Factorio but I bought it long before this week.

I really wish Commie lovers watched "The Lives of Others" before posting their hot political takes. Being mostly furry artists, most of them would be targeted and straight up gaslit by the Stasi into giving the government enough evidence to put them away for life.

You're expecting a bunch of 12 years old to understand the ramifications of a surveillance state when they are using Twitter.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

You're expecting a bunch of 12 years old to understand the ramifications of a surveillance state when they are using Twitter.

True, these are the fuckers who think a 7 day facebook ban is the equivalent of being 'disappeared' by police.