What confuses me the most is how they say they're anarchists while at times acting like statists (ex. approving of censorship, wanting a welfare state, while also saying "no borders" and rioting like anarchists). I have doubts that they truly want anarchism, even though they say that over and over. As much as they hate tankies, at least tankies are honest about trusting the government
There are very good reasons to believe Caleb has never been alt right or even a light conservative.
That's how it is for a lot of these people, they remind me of how you'll see former /b/tards/goons talking about how they used to be such horrible racists back in the day, even though the worst they did was chuckle at offensive jokes like the rest of us. It's just an overplayed rhetorical device. Only place I've seen that really recognizes it as such, though, was some random fallacy list calling it a "statement of conversion".
A lot of the breadtubers I have seen have made videos like "The Alt-Right Pipeline" and "How I Almost Became Alt-Right". All of these breadtubers are paranoid about even being perceived as Alt-Right and will do anything to disavow anything of the sort. It's probably my biggest criticism of the BreadTube community, they are reactionaries to the Alt-Right / Anti-SJW crowd who themselves are reactionaries to modern radical progressives who themselves are reactionaries to mainstream conservatism. At the end of the day, the only point these breadtubers can argue is "Nazis are bad", it's all so tiresome.
the distributist did a tweetstorm on this phenomenon but it's honestly just the way the wind blows right now. the machine runs itself at this point, and for those of us who aren't on board we can only hope its speedy operation is also its demise ex-posthaste. i would spend time ITT deconstructing their BS but honestly, what's the point? when the entire academic scaffolding is staffed by the leftist priests who gave birth to this gaggle of nietzschean nightmares, then every encounter with these flatterers of dionysus (to use another nietzscheanism) is essentially an exhibition match, particularly that the left doesn't need rigorous arguments simply because they've already won the moral battle and can just brush things off with a huff. the right did the same thing for so long which is why the right can't even argue any more -- women were made for child rearing and homesteading.... because god said so, not because tens of thousands of years of societal equilibration put them in the role that made them the heads of the homestead (nassim taleb does an excellent exhibition on this in SITG which more right-wingers need to pick up and run with, namely the lindy effect). and if you suggest that old modes of being might have or have had merit, by the way, you're a bad person. and you aren't permitted to be a bad person. moreover only right-wingers are bad people; everyone else is just misguided. it simply isn't worth my time to reiterate over and over about how marxist ideals failed and still fail continuously for what should be stupidly obvious reasons and need(ed) to be reconfigured from the ground up before they were even remotely workable at any scale. but the academic establishment refuses to let the inner core of these ideas die because of the stain of post-christianity the west for some reason cannot scrub from its soul, namely bad conscience and moreover the power that bad conscience grants to someone who doesn't suffer from it, particularly brought on by the horrors of WWI/II and their aftermaths. if there's anything i'm learning from teaching myself history, it's that bad ideas die by spilled blood, not by spilled ink (this is also a reason why i label academics as outright cowards, who don't actually think for themselves by and large, for none of them could unironically support a side that lost an enormous war or for that matter could say anything good about them; historians don't vindicate history as much as use it as a method of self-vindication, you know). until a communist country has an actual bloody defeat, this is just another post-christian cross we'll need to bear, i fear.
For the longest time I didn't get why traditional conservatives and legislators in red states fail to engage with the left on the internet or even advance an argument against the pro-censorship online media establishment. But then I realized, the vast majority of the tradcon base (modern "republicans") literally can't understand how or even why metro progressives (technologically literate leftist activists) attack free thought online. While I don't live in a firmly red state, I do live in a fairly rural small-town community and outside of a few of my friends and maybe a handful of really media-savvy people, I don't know anyone in my community who would understand that an online political commentator being banned off of a platform is a political tactic used by those who run the platform or even why the platform would ban a user for their political viewpoints.
I believe that Caleb and some of his buddies that constantly plug each others channels in their videos have always been fans of other, bigger Breadtubers. Hence they have never been alt right. Suddenly inspired to destroy nazism and hungry for attention they make youtube channels. They even had a perfect moment to fake concern and sadness with the Christchurch event.
After watching Caleb's video about him being groomed by the spooky alt-right I realized that the way he describes his "dissent" into alt-right thinking and his return to leftist ideology makes it sound as if he will consume any political talking point which is presented to him. I truly believe that all of these breadtubers who have campfire stories about their flirt with alt-right lack the cognitive reasoning skills to think critically about the political views they are presented with.
Big Joel made a stream for the Christchurch shooting that was a giant circlejerk. None of the people involved were big players on breadtube only wannabes.
The fuck? The rules are everywhere about "not your personal army", if you want to start a crusade you are pretty much on the way to get your own thread.
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Oh god that innuendo studies guy...What a pretentious twat. Only vid from in I remember liking from back in the day was his vid on Phil Phish which I still kinda like seeing how Phil was(or still is before he left the public view basically) a huge cunt. While I can understand his arguments and viewpoints, his major flaws is that like all other breadtubers, they all follow the same argumentative cycle of "hurr durr nazis bad everyone who disagrees is nazi aka alt right" and deep down are ideologically indifferent to the supposed "irrational left/antifa" Generally it's an issue I have noticed with a lot of these "My descent into the alt right" and other pretentious nonsense with a black and white worldview that is still remained in the victim vs the offender aka oppressed vs oppressor mentality(sounds familiar to something right?" and that because of this silly almost religious-esque convertion that ultimately just makes breadtube so insanely obnoxious. These exceptional individuals label everyone they dont like or post on this lovely forum as "alt right" eg you ARE THE WITCH. It's a childish worldview and Im not saying people o the real alt-right side cannot act like that too, no that would be silly, I despise the alt right but my point is that these pseudo-intellctual vids are just political garbage where he labels something as X and therefore it is X. Or in another way, pretending to be a "reasonable guy" while being an actual cunt otherwise (Very similar to the supposed "rational skeptics" who then engaged in krauts gay ops shit)
In general, I may sound mad and I guess I kinda am but for me the one word about it all is how obnoxious it is. People think they have gotten their own version of a "redpill" or whatever calling it while in reality it's just the same (apologize for using such an overused word) sjw bs. Been following the breadtube thread and stuff for quite a while bust mostly been lurking and just felt like giving my input about it.
Oh and by the way. Here's a vid of him in person, who would have thought he's a fat ugly balding walking caricature of the "soy boy" meme? Maybe it's a low hanging insult, but it's just a perfect way to round it all off. I sincerely can't wait for the day these pseudo-intellectuals get their own sex scandals or shit like all male feminist types eventually do or maybe contra kills themselves who knows.
Ian Danskin
Ian Danskin of Innuendo Studios on how and when to talk to the right. Filmed and edited by Pulse Media (http://www.pulse-media.com).
Also some interesting youtube comment, I'll paste them here.
"He can't talk to the right because he doesn't want to talk. He wants to tell you why he is right and you are wrong. I can't believe leftists can't just simply ask other people what the think without holding any kind of judgement. When I meet someone in real life who is actually a radical progressive, which is rare, I just ask them why they believe what they do, and I don't use it to prove them wrong either. I just want to know what they think so I ask and accept their answer as is."
"So much focus on shaping others' opinions and so little on reaching actual conclusions or results, and all on the basic premise of being on "the good side"... Almost sounds like totalitarian damage control"
And to summarize it all up:
"Your solutions all seem to start with the assumption that you must be right. Then you go on to try to figure out how to convince those that disagree. You don't seem to have an open mind."
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Jgreg made a parody vid of this kind of nonsense. Never heard of him but it was a hilarious satire of these ”coming out” videos.
My Descent Into The Alt-Center Rabbit Hole
My story needs to be told. Let's just jump right into it. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/jreg Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greg.guevara Twitter: ht...
It always baffles me when these types of people think Chris is actually trans.
If these people actually lurked here, they’d realize that most of the users tend to be centrist, libertarian, center right or center left. Just because this site doesn’t censor conservative viewpoints does not make it “alt-right”. You know, if these people prided themselves in research, they would actually go to the site itself and read stuff here.
So is Jreg part of breadtube?Oh god that innuendo studies guy...What a pretentious twat. Only vid from him I remember liking from back in the day was his vid on Phil Phish which I still kinda like seeing how Phil was (or still is before he left the public view basically) a huge cunt.
While I can understand his arguments and viewpoints, his major flaws is that like all other breadtubers, they all follow the same argumentative cycle of "hurr durr nazis bad and evveryone who disagrees with us is also a nazi aka alt right" and deep down are ideologically indifferent to the supposed "irrational left/antifa" Generally it's an issue I have noticed with a lot of these "My descent into the alt right" and other pretentious nonsense with a black and white worldview that is still remained in the victim vs the offender aka oppressed vs oppressor mentality(sounds familiar to something right?" and that because of this silly almost religious-esque convertion that ultimately just makes breadtube so insanely obnoxious.
These exceptional individuals label everyone they dont like or for example, who post on this lovely feeder forum as "alt right" eg you ARE THE WITCH. It's a childish worldview and I'm not saying people o the real alt-right side cannot act like that too, no that would be silly, I despise the alt right but my point is that these pseudo-intellctual vids are just political garbage where he labels something as X and therefore it is X. Or in another way, pretending to be a "reasonable guy" while being an actual cunt otherwise (Very similar to the supposed "rational skeptics" who then engaged in krauts gay ops shit)
In general, I may sound mad and I guess I kinda am but for me the one word about it all is how obnoxious it is. People think they have gotten their own version of a "redpill" or whatever calling it while in reality it's just the same (apologize for using such an overused word) sjw bullshit. Been following the breadtube thread and stuff for quite a while bust mostly been lurking and just felt like giving my input about it.
Oh and by the way. Here's a vid of him in person, who would have thought he's a fat ugly balding walking caricature of the "soy boy" meme? Maybe it's a low hanging insult, but it's just a perfect way to round it all off. I sincerely can't wait for the day these pseudo-intellectuals get their own sex scandals or shit like all male feminist types eventually do or maybe contra kills themselves who knows.
Ian Danskin
Ian Danskin of Innuendo Studios on how and when to talk to the right. Filmed and edited by Pulse Media (http://www.pulse-media.com).
Also some interesting youtube comment, I'll paste them here.
"He can't talk to the right because he doesn't want to talk. He wants to tell you why he is right and you are wrong. I can't believe leftists can't just simply ask other people what the think without holding any kind of judgement. When I meet someone in real life who is actually a radical progressive, which is rare, I just ask them why they believe what they do, and I don't use it to prove them wrong either. I just want to know what they think so I ask and accept their answer as is."
"So much focus on shaping others' opinions and so little on reaching actual conclusions or results, and all on the basic premise of being on "the good side"... Almost sounds like totalitarian damage control"
And to summarize it all up:
"Your solutions all seem to start with the assumption that you must be right. Then you go on to try to figure out how to convince those that disagree. You don't seem to have an open mind."
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Jgreg made a parody vid of this kind of nonsense. Never heard of him but it was a hilarious satire of these ”coming out” videos. Also fixed typos.
My Descent Into The Alt-Center Rabbit Hole
My story needs to be told. Let's just jump right into it. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/jreg Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greg.guevara Twitter: ht...
