Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Elwood P. Dowd]

Dale elaborates that there's nothing wrong with transactional sex in exchange for clout in his opinion and that Ellis was having lots of sex, which means he was doing something right. Having sex = success, and success is good.

Is this reasonable? That, stated or unstated, these gals should have been aware that they were Warren Ellis fuckbuddies and that's it? Seems to me that at least some of the gals thought a long-term relationship was in the cards, and that Ellis kind of went the "sin of omission" route by deliberately never clarifying things. Exactly why any female above "small child frightening" in the looks department would WANT such a thing as a long-term relationship with Warren Ellis I pass over in silence as a mystery for the ages, but it sure seems like that was the case.

Note that I'm not saying Ellis did anything, or much of anything wrong, but the sort of complete absolution of Ellis as an innocent little lamb strikes me as being as off the mark as the perpetual Walk to Canossa SJW types wish to send him (and many others) on.

 

[Tardar the Barbarian]

Here's JSG with his take.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

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I'm surprised.

 

[Newman's Own]

But does anyone think Warren wasn't one of the mob prior to this shit? Let these people consume one another. The only reason you wouldn't want that is if you wanted to be in their faggy little club.

Or wanted Ellis to join their faggy little club.

Everyone's garbage from Ellis to his accusers to Malin to every other dip shit who doesn't give a fuck but is making videos about this anyway because it's been deemed the flavor of the week.

None of the people defending Ellis give a shit about him and none of the people canceling Ellis really give a shit that he traded clout for poon more than a decade ago.

Disingenuous fucktards, every one.

 

[Bloody bunny]

Warren Ellis can still work around the blacklist by having someone front for him in exchange for a percentage of the money. I’m sure he has some loser “friends” who can pretend to be unwashed English writers.

Or just a fucking pen name.

 

[Bastard_Call]

I know this thread is excited about the Ellis news, but "independent comics journalist" site ComicsXF literally made a twitter callout post against Rob Liefeld right after reporting on his X-Force one-off.

The tweet. This prompted a lot of people who have never read anything Liefeld worked on, but who are aware that he's popular to hate, to chimp out in joy.

Here's a personal favourite, where they screencap the wrong account. The only thing worse than a girl who likes Harley Quinn is a man who likes Harley Quinn.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

FYI Liam has been livestreaming about Warren Ellis for 45 minutes. Twelve viewers.

EDIT: "Warren Ellis is a fuck machine. I am a fuck machine. That's just how it happens sometimes." - Liam Grey, 2021

 

[A nameless trool]

There have been a few. I normally don't cover it but:

Jon Malin had, perhaps surprisingly, the most substantive take so far with this one and a half hour livestream with no guests and no product promotion, starting on this very upbeat and positive preamble.



The video could be broken down into about three core themes: the first is Malin putting voice to deepset, personal disillusionment and resentment towards his former coworkers and employers at Image Comics; the peers who he at first looked up to as creators who broke free of the yoke of the greedy corporate publisher overlords that live off the subjugation of artists along with their bureaucrat servants living off the scraps that serve only to further degrade and force actual creators into further obscurity and servitude. But getting a closer view as a low-ranking Image artist, Jon Malin describes his witnessing comic creators themselves engage in office politics and intranecine backstabibing along with watching corporate apparatchiks like Eric Stephenson climb the ladder to the position of lofty, idle publisher every bit as detached from the welfare of the artists in his employ as anyone at Marvel or DC.

The personal nature of this perceived betrayal is evident from the deeply personal insults mixed liberally in Malin's tirade, asking if Image co-founder Jim Lee should have been cancelled for having have sex with his employee's wife while married himself, and describing Image Comics Chief Creative Officer Eric Stephenson in terms that make Richard C Meyer's legendary "Dark Roast" seem like a Charlie's London superchat in comparison:



The second third of the video is Malin going through the cited transgressions on the somanyofus.com website and the absurdity of trying to frame things like "self-deprecation" and regular social contact as proof of predatory behavior. There's a secondary point in here about how meeting men and women online is the social norm of modern times and how it's a bad idea if a is being framed as proof of being a sexual predator, closing by asking if the professional comic book industry wants to officially endorse this as a matter of public policy and the consequences for society if this becomes an accepted practice.

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The final third is Malin calling out to any creators who might be listening, that if you're going to let this slide, you're essentially ceding power to other people like Snyder or Tynion specifically, or any creator placed higher up in the comic industry hierarchy to have power to dictate what you can or cannot do in your personal life on threat of terminating your career. Even Snyder and Sean Gordon Murphy better hope that none of their "lovebombing" of Mags Visaggio could be interpreted as sexual predation under these rules, and if you find the idea of that objectionable, better take a stand now.

Certainly one of Malin's best videos, as it unveiled a level of crude demagoguery I did not think was within the man.






There were a few others:

Shane Davis had his own somewhat belated take on Ellis' cancellation. Davis joined Comicsgate early last year bearing his own grudges over how much of Zack Snyder's Man of Steel's visual imagery and storytelling was (allegedly) borrowed wholesale and uncredited from Davis' Superman run, leaving him denied the appropriate royalties due him if he had been credited properly.

It's in that lens with which Davis' gives his own analysis of the situation; that while Image comics cancelling Fell hurt Warren Ellis, one person hurt by this that nobody is talking about is Fell co-creator Ben Templesmith who is now also out of work, and owner of an IP that is effectively dead; it won't be republished by anyone and you can forget about the series being completed or being optioned by Netflix or Hollywood. All through no fault of his own. Nobody talks about that.

Shane goes on to pick at some of the more glaring absurdities of the various tweets and press releases surrounding Ellis' cancellation, like the impossible condition of settling all 60 women's insane grievances (one example: Ellis' use of 'non-consensual hypnotism over the internet') before he's allowed to publish his creator-owned works through Image, or the outrageous lie that neither Image or Ellis were aware of the allegations made against him for a full year.

Davis' thoughts however drift back naturally towards the consequences of this cancellation - will works like The Authority by Ellis and Bryan Hitch, or Planetary by Ellis and John Cassaday be printed ever again now that they have the stigma of being created by someone publicly branded as a serial sex offender? Where does that leave Hitch and Cassaday and their royalties as co-creators?

And it's really them who are the victims in this, Davis contends. They did nothing wrong, and as artists they contributed far more labor towards the creation of these works than Ellis himself did. Shane doesn't want to start anything here, but a comic book "writer" can crank out a script in a couple of days tops (take note Starlight Cats customers) and really it's the artists being completely ignored as the writer is considered the only creator of consequence as far as cancer culture goes that's the real outrage here.

And so Shane Davis concludes his video by saying fuck Warren Ellis and fuck all comic book "writers". Bravo, Shane. Bravo.

Richard C. Meyer has put out four (4) Warren Ellis-related videos that could be described as quick, concise summaries and repsonses to the situation as it unfolds, along with forecasts of how he thinks things will unfold from here, with middling accuracy.

Squeaky-voiced Nerdette's Newstand takes 16 minutes to say that while she believes the allegations happened, cancelling anyone is wrong and that maybe these women should have some responsibility from getting wrapped up with an obvious sweaty lecherous creep like Warren Ellis.

Last and least is Deadwood Dale, who uploaded this video 40 minutes ago. He describes Ellis' antics as "totally normal behavior"; Dale elaborates that there's nothing wrong with transactional sex in exchange for clout in his opinion and that Ellis was having lots of sex, which means he was doing something right. Having sex = success, and success is good. But it comes with the envy and projection (?) of beta males jelly of all the cyber-success Warren (the inferred alpha) was having on apps like Friendster, Skype, and other platforms with the ability to send DMs back and forth with groupies.

Dale notes the video Jon Malin made - Jon is another alpha male in Dale's estimation: He trailblazed his own path, went his own way, and is even making toys. Dale issues a calumny against the cowards who are sacrificing Warren Ellis in the hopes of advancing their own station, the lack of an alpha male to stand up among the cancel culture mob and tell them that what they're doing is wrong. The second half of the video is Dale scrolling through videos and liking tweets speaking out against Image Comics while Dale describes the comic book industry's behavior as a symptom of being populated by nerds. Nerds that demand to be coddled. Then he says they're more like a cult, and that there's no freedom of speech if this cult has its way.

Dale closes by reiterating that these were clearly transactional relationships,: Ellis had an orgasm and the women got some clout out of it (and presumably no orgasm). What's so hard for these idiots to grasp?

Perch was also brutal on his video.
For all his fence-sitting, here he calls out the bullshit of the comic book pros and their community in a way angry ESJEYDOUBLEYOUS rants just fail to.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

FYI Liam has been livestreaming about Warren Ellis for 45 minutes. Twelve viewers.

EDIT: "Warren Ellis is a fuck machine. I am a fuck machine. That's just how it happens sometimes." - Liam Grey, 2021

Liam is melting. Ellis being cancelled is just like Frog cancelling Liam... I look forward to the recap post.

 

[Strix454]

I'm going to do a short overview of what IMO were the critical points in Liam's latest meltdown. There is alot in that video and it deserves a full recap, but there are certain points worth highlighting. He gave his opinion on alot of his old issues.

- Liam sees himself as having experienced the same thing as Warren Ellis. But probably worse and more undeserved. He is angry that nobody jumped to arms when he got accused of sexual misconduct.

- Liam describes how he dealt with his Warren Ellis problem: "These bitches came out of the waterworks and I said 'I dont know who you are"'. He pretended that there were multiple accusers and Liam didn't have any association with any of them. It was very typical Liam in that he inserted himself into the life of Warren Ellis and erased his own actual story. Then put his own crazy spin on top of that.

- Liam then launches into explaining the law to his audience. Basically having sex is a private matter and anything between two people who have had sex should not be talked about in public. To talk about a sexual relationship or share information from a sexual relationship (such as emails) is "Revenge Porn" and should likely be treated by the law as such. So Liam is basically claiming that the emails released about him creeping on a particular women were "revenge porn" on poor Liam.

- Liam invents a new story where he was professionally abused and blacklisted for talking positively about Trump and Trump's wall in some unspecified but probably 2016/2017 timeframe. He lost job opportunties and other things due to this, but he survived (just like Ellis could survive) by moving into Indy comics.

- He talks about the Xenotype formatting mistakes. They were not all his mistakes. If things were done the way he intended, if his home & livelihood were not under attack and if he had the support of other creators (the entire community)....he wouldn't have been so stressed that he made small mistakes.

- Liam deals with his weight issue. "Am I fat? Yes" But after the studio is done, he is going to get into shape and get ripped again. After all, he says that (single-handedly) building that Studio was not a particularly strong workout for him.

- He claims that he got fat because there are seven children who he is the unofficial "dad" to. They are constantly in his house and at Easter, they left alot of candy behind. Liam ate the candy left behind and got fat.

- He talks about how the attacks on him led by "big youtubers" were "Tearing my family apart. Putting my grandma into a state of fear and panic." He has seen the secret evidence of how the big youtubers are conspiring to destroy him. And they are doing it only out of Envy.

- Liam's reputation is so trashed that he said he could walk out on stream and murder a puppy....and everyone would say they saw it coming. Yes they would Liam. Yes they would.

 

[jspit2.0]

Perch was also brutal on his video.
For all his fence-sitting, here he calls out the bullshit of the comic book pros and their community in a way angry ESJEYDOUBLEYOUS rants just fail to.

If only he'd spoken out on this shit when it mattered back in 2002-2011 when they were cancelling guys like Chuck Dixon, Orson Scott Card, and Mike Miller. Maybe this could have been avoided?

Or wanted Ellis to join their faggy little club.

Everyone's garbage from Ellis to his accusers to Malin to every other dip shit who doesn't give a fuck but is making videos about this anyway because it's been deemed the flavor of the week.

None of the people defending Ellis give a shit about him and none of the people canceling Ellis really give a shit that he traded clout for poon more than a decade ago.

Disingenuous fucktards, every one.

I don't entirely disagree. But I'll say this. I think Malin is genuine. It just doesn't fucking matter. They already came for him. Before that he said/did nothing. The time when it matters. The time to speak is before they come for you. There aren't any Christian, Republican, or even moderate voices left that matter. They're cancelled and outside of SJW Germany. It's the people there who must speak up, who need to raise a voice of decent, who have to cry out not more!

I've modified the old WWII poem below because it's perfect.

First they came for the Christians, and I did not speak out—
Because they were preachy and kindof transgressive to the rainbow.

Then they came for the Republican, and I did not speak out—
Because I fucking hate Trump?

Then they came for the other writer/artist guy who was a sex pest, and I did not speak out—
Because fuck him, he'd do the same to me.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

It's going to fucking happen.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

I'm going to do a short overview of what IMO were the critical points in Liam's latest meltdown. There is alot in that video and it deserves a full recap, but there are certain points worth highlighting. He gave his opinion on alot of his old issues.

- Liam sees himself as having experienced the same thing as Warren Ellis. But probably worse and more undeserved. He is angry that nobody jumped to arms when he got accused of sexual misconduct.

- Liam describes how he dealt with his Warren Ellis problem: "These bitches came out of the waterworks and I said 'I dont know who you are"'. He pretended that there were multiple accusers and Liam didn't have any association with any of them. It was very typical Liam in that he inserted himself into the life of Warren Ellis and erased his own actual story. Then put his own crazy spin on top of that.

- Liam then launches into explaining the law to his audience. Basically having sex is a private matter and anything between two people who have had sex should not be talked about in public. To talk about a sexual relationship or share information from a sexual relationship (such as emails) is "Revenge Porn" and should likely be treated by the law as such. So Liam is basically claiming that the emails released about him creeping on a particular women were "revenge porn" on poor Liam.

- Liam invents a new story where he was professionally abused and blacklisted for talking positively about Trump and Trump's wall in some unspecified but probably 2016/2017 timeframe. He lost job opportunties and other things due to this, but he survived (just like Ellis could survive) by moving into Indy comics.

- He talks about the Xenotype formatting mistakes. They were not all his mistakes. If things were done the way he intended, if his home & livelihood were not under attack and if he had the support of other creators (the entire community)....he wouldn't have been so stressed that he made small mistakes.

- Liam deals with his weight issue. "Am I fat? Yes" But after the studio is done, he is going to get into shape and get ripped again. After all, he says that (single-handedly) building that Studio was not a particularly strong workout for him.

- He claims that he got fat because there are seven children who he is the unofficial "dad" to. They are constantly in his house and at Easter, they left alot of candy behind. Liam ate the candy left behind and got fat.

- He talks about how the attacks on him led by "big youtubers" were "Tearing my family apart. Putting my grandma into a state of fear and panic." He has seen the secret evidence of how the big youtubers are conspiring to destroy him. And they are doing it only out of Envy.

- Liam's reputation is so trashed that he said he could walk out on stream and murder a puppy....and everyone would say they saw it coming. Yes they would Liam. Yes they would.

And just like that the video is private.

Good thing I downloaded it first. Who wants it and how do I get it to you?

 

[Newman's Own]

I don't entirely disagree. But I'll say this. I think Malin is genuine.

A genuine hypocrite. Malin stood idly by and watched others get canceled out of CG for less than Ellis's non-crimes and he only spoke up when it came to close to his bottom line and exposure through the JACK show. Only then did WarCampaign become something other than loveable scamps.

Malin is a lapdog cuck who will say whatever he thinks will protect his clout or build it. It's all he's ever done.

He couldn't be more of a disingenuous fucktard if he tried.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

LOL, seen on DarkSydePhil's livestream just now:

 

[Newman's Own]

In other news it looks like Patrick Stiles relationship with the Breitweiser's Alegiance Arts has come to an end. He's no longer COO or editor in chief of Mitch's Walmart comics empire.

Was he fired or did he quit?

A quick look into Patrick's replacement as EIC points to Scott Nicholas Amendolare, a Hollywood wannabe with a woke TDS Twitter TL and a bunch of credits for bottom tier reality show post production.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0024575/

https://snamendolare.com/beaux-arts/comix

https://twitter.com/snamendolare

https://www.linkedin.com/in/samendolare/

Exactly the kind of guy you'd expect "conservatives" like Mitch and Betty to hire for creative control of their publishing house.

Edit: CRT and gun control messages in your Bass Reeves books shortly. #Saintssowhite

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

In other news it looks like Patrick Stiles relationship with the Breitweiser's Alegiance Arts has come to an end. He's no longer COO or editor in chief of Mitch's Walmart comics empire.

Was he fired or did he quit?

A quick look into Patrick's replacement as EIC points to Scott Nicholas Amendolare, a Hollywood wannabe with a woke TDS Twitter TL and a bunch of credits for bottom tier reality show post production.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0024575/

https://snamendolare.com/beaux-arts/comix

https://twitter.com/snamendolare

https://www.linkedin.com/in/samendolare/

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Exactly the kind of guy you'd expect "conservatives" like Mitch and Betty to hire for creative control of their publishing house.

Edit: CRT and gun control messages in your Bass Reeves books shortly. #Saintssowhite

Looks like Stiles is now a Sr. Data Analyst for BMI Music in Nashville. That seems like a massive upgrade.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-stiles-658a1449

[EDIT: actually a demotion, not upgrade]

 

[Newman's Own]

Looks like Stiles is now a Sr. Data Analyst for BMI Music in Nashville. That seems like a massive upgrade.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-stiles-658a1449

That's been his main job for years. Allegiance Arts was the side gig.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

That's been his main job for years. Allegiance Arts was the side gig.

Oh you're right, I didn't scroll down past Allegiance. This is actually a demotion from his previous position at BMI.

 

[Boobie Bomb]

Here's JSG with his take.

Wasn't this nigga getting sued in court?

 

[Mecha]

LOL, seen on DarkSydePhil's livestream just now:

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All this boring talk about Warren Ellis joining ComicsGate when we could have a real voice for the cancelled come over. Maybe Antonio Brice could take his winning Comicbook formula of using someone with a large platform for their clout and "influence" to do a self insert story where they get superpowers. DSP's already got some concept art and 191k YouTube Subs. The indiegogo sells itself!