Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Done]

This might be me going crazy but does "ThatUmbrellaGuy" sound like the Martin guy that D&C and EvS talked about? It could just be their accents though.

I'd recommend that you please save their videos, cap their tweets, archive their blogposts and post them all here regardless, we can't afford to lose content like we did with Melissa Morgue.

BTW, is ThatUmbrellaGuy = @RoastingRCM? I saw EVS and D&C posting some harassment tweets he sent, I capped them before going to bed and apparently tango is already down:





BTW, what's this dark roast he's referencing?

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OutRighGeek made a neutral article on #Comicsgate and #MoveTheNeedle:
http://www.outrightgeekery.com/2018/02/20/comicsgate-part-1/
http://www.outrightgeekery.com/2018/02/20/comicsgate-p-t-2/
http://www.outrightgeekery.com/2018/02/20/comicsgate-p-t-3/

RatKing Michelle Perez did not like that they were neutral and went on a rant (archive):
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More recent spergery (archive) and degeneracy (archive) from an Image Eisner Nominated Writer.

UPDATE (archive):

Edit: Jesus fucking Christ, they weren't making a joke and they do post images of their anus on Twitter. How the flying fuck is this person working for a publisher?

That POS Calexit got published (admittedly, for one issue, but still). So did that "We Wuz Superheros" comic Black. Some indie publishers just have no taste nor sense.

Always x-post any cow content to their appropriate thread, cows are always drawn to autistic slapfights, which makes cross-pollination a must, I have already quoted the above posts into Rubblewoman's thread, minus the Aubrey Sitterson link..

BTW, what the hell kind of award did Michelle get nominated for?

 

[The Valeyard]

Marvel comics' Fresh Start looks like a return to old cliches

With yet another reboot for Thor, Iron Man and Hulk on the cards, the cartoon giant is showing worrying signs of pandering to its most conservative readers

Spoiler: Article Text

Another year, another relaunch at Marvel comics: on Tuesday, it was announced that it is revamping its output with a project called Fresh Start. Its May launch will be, by my count, Marvel’s seventh or eighth fresh start since 2012, coming just months after the company last rebooted its characters, in September 2017’s Marvel Legacy line, and cementing the company’s reputation as the serial monogamist of the comic book industry.

Over the past couple of years Marvel has made some genuinely significant changes to its core characters: it replaced billionaire inventor Tony Stark in the Iron Man costume with a 15-year-old black girl, Riri Williams; deemed Thor unworthy to wield the hammer Mjolnir and passed the mantle to love interest Jane Foster; and in the most divisive storyline ever, “revealed” that Captain America was a secret sleeper agent for Nazi analogue, Hydra. But Fresh Start is a back-to-basics approach, restoring the original versions of Marvel’s triumvirate, as well as bringing back a dead one: the deceased Bruce Banner, who will reclaim his position as Hulk from current jolly green incumbent, Amadeus Cho.

In a video, Marvel editor in chief CB Cebulski proclaimed that he’s “never seen more excitement and more enthusiasm for where Marvel comics is going this year”, adding that there hasn’t been “such an overarching line-wide change of talent” since … the Marvel NOW! revamp of so long ago (2012).

A number of problems at Marvel led to this revamp. The big one is that most of the characters involved have appeared in Marvel’s movies or TV series (or are about to), including Black Panther, Doctor Strange, Captain Marvel, Ant-Man and the Wasp, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones and Daredevil. Yes, perhaps it makes sense for Marvel comics to mirror what’s going on in the multiplexes if it wants to migrate movie buffs to the printed territories. But new readers who are introduced to the characters by the movies should have their eyes opened to the possibilities of what can be done in comics, which eclipse even the biggest Hollywood special effects budget. They should be offered a wider universe, not just a mirror one. Making the source material reflect the adaptations feels like putting the cart before the horse.
There was also the negative reaction to last year’s Marvel Legacy reboot, which introduced the infamous Captain-America-as-Nazi storyline. Many readers were appalled by the move, which fell around the time Marvel’s vice president of sales complained that the studio’s attempts to diversifying its universe by adding more female, black, Asian and LGBT characters was not going down well with the core readership. Brian Michael Bendis, one of the company’s star writers and the creator of Iron Man’s female replacement Iron Heart and the Miles Morales African-Latino version of Spider-Man, has since left for rivals DC Comics. And two gay characters with their own titles – Iceman and America Chavez – had their books cancelled at the end of 2017, not long after an industry breakfast that Marvel hosted for comic shop owners at New York Comic Con, where some retailers lambasted the diverse additions, with one repeatedly insisting that kids didn’t want to come in to his store and buy a comic that featured “Iceman kissing dudes”.

If Marvel is indeed pandering to a more conservative readership that has grumbled incessantly about the proliferation of black, LGBT and female characters in recent years, then – given the phenomenal box office success of Black Panther this last week – there’s something decidedly rotten in the state of Fresh Start.

Maybe they’ll get back some of white, male Middle America that’s drifted away, but comics are and should be progressive and transgressive. Rather than winning back that demographic, Marvel’s execs should perhaps be looking at the news footage of those astonishing survivors of the Parkland school shooting in Florida, and listening to what those kids are saying about change and reform. As far as I’m concerned, Marvel, that should be your market.

 

[Mola Ram]

Marvel comics' Fresh Start looks like a return to old cliches

With yet another reboot for Thor, Iron Man and Hulk on the cards, the cartoon giant is showing worrying signs of pandering to its most conservative readers

Spoiler: Article Text

Another year, another relaunch at Marvel comics: on Tuesday, it was announced that it is revamping its output with a project called Fresh Start. Its May launch will be, by my count, Marvel’s seventh or eighth fresh start since 2012, coming just months after the company last rebooted its characters, in September 2017’s Marvel Legacy line, and cementing the company’s reputation as the serial monogamist of the comic book industry.

Over the past couple of years Marvel has made some genuinely significant changes to its core characters: it replaced billionaire inventor Tony Stark in the Iron Man costume with a 15-year-old black girl, Riri Williams; deemed Thor unworthy to wield the hammer Mjolnir and passed the mantle to love interest Jane Foster; and in the most divisive storyline ever, “revealed” that Captain America was a secret sleeper agent for Nazi analogue, Hydra. But Fresh Start is a back-to-basics approach, restoring the original versions of Marvel’s triumvirate, as well as bringing back a dead one: the deceased Bruce Banner, who will reclaim his position as Hulk from current jolly green incumbent, Amadeus Cho.

In a video, Marvel editor in chief CB Cebulski proclaimed that he’s “never seen more excitement and more enthusiasm for where Marvel comics is going this year”, adding that there hasn’t been “such an overarching line-wide change of talent” since … the Marvel NOW! revamp of so long ago (2012).

A number of problems at Marvel led to this revamp. The big one is that most of the characters involved have appeared in Marvel’s movies or TV series (or are about to), including Black Panther, Doctor Strange, Captain Marvel, Ant-Man and the Wasp, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones and Daredevil. Yes, perhaps it makes sense for Marvel comics to mirror what’s going on in the multiplexes if it wants to migrate movie buffs to the printed territories. But new readers who are introduced to the characters by the movies should have their eyes opened to the possibilities of what can be done in comics, which eclipse even the biggest Hollywood special effects budget. They should be offered a wider universe, not just a mirror one. Making the source material reflect the adaptations feels like putting the cart before the horse.
There was also the negative reaction to last year’s Marvel Legacy reboot, which introduced the infamous Captain-America-as-Nazi storyline. Many readers were appalled by the move, which fell around the time Marvel’s vice president of sales complained that the studio’s attempts to diversifying its universe by adding more female, black, Asian and LGBT characters was not going down well with the core readership. Brian Michael Bendis, one of the company’s star writers and the creator of Iron Man’s female replacement Iron Heart and the Miles Morales African-Latino version of Spider-Man, has since left for rivals DC Comics. And two gay characters with their own titles – Iceman and America Chavez – had their books cancelled at the end of 2017, not long after an industry breakfast that Marvel hosted for comic shop owners at New York Comic Con, where some retailers lambasted the diverse additions, with one repeatedly insisting that kids didn’t want to come in to his store and buy a comic that featured “Iceman kissing dudes”.

If Marvel is indeed pandering to a more conservative readership that has grumbled incessantly about the proliferation of black, LGBT and female characters in recent years, then – given the phenomenal box office success of Black Panther this last week – there’s something decidedly rotten in the state of Fresh Start.

Maybe they’ll get back some of white, male Middle America that’s drifted away, but comics are and should be progressive and transgressive. Rather than winning back that demographic, Marvel’s execs should perhaps be looking at the news footage of those astonishing survivors of the Parkland school shooting in Florida, and listening to what those kids are saying about change and reform. As far as I’m concerned, Marvel, that should be your market.

Wow, namedropping the Parkland shooting in a comic book article. What's that word the Brits use for guys like this?

Oh! Right! Cunt.

 

[RockVolnutt]

Veterans are all cryptofascists who deserved to be killed according to the Image Comics troon who thinks America should die.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

Veterans are all cryptofascists who deserved to be killed according to the Image Comics troon who thinks America should die.

Meyer claims to have a Jewish daughter, a Muslim daughter and a Latino son. I'm thinking he won't be finding a place at Stormfront any time soon. I wonder if that's why he gets the "crypto-" prefix?

'Course it is quite possible to be one of many flavors of fascist (Falangism, etc.) and not be a racist, but let's not confuse the issue.

 

[Done]

Veterans are all cryptofascists who deserved to be killed according to the Image Comics troon who thinks America should die.

This idiocy has grown to include Kurt Eichenwald and Nora Reed (which means her legion is in it too). That's an impressive number of cows kicking each other.

CatParty capped most of the slapfight here.

 

[Hui]

Who is Richard C Meyer?

 

[Done]

Who is Richard C Meyer?

It's the power word of Diversity & Comics. Who's the de-facto leader of the Pro-CG spergs.

You can get the basic info on him from the OP.

 

[Hui]

Oh I thought he was an actual somebody. I'm very far behind on comics.

 

[Done]

Oh I thought he was an actual somebody. I'm very far behind on comics.

He is quickly becoming one, his campaigning has lead to some interesting situations in the comics industry.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

Meyer claims to have a Jewish daughter, a Muslim daughter and a Latino son. I'm thinking he won't be finding a place at Stormfront any time soon. I wonder if that's why he gets the "crypto-" prefix?

'Course it is quite possible to be one of many flavors of fascist (Falangism, etc.) and not be a racist, but let's not confuse the issue.

Somehow I don't believe it, unless they were all adopted.

 

[Done]

Somehow I don't believe it, unless they were all adopted.

I know he has 3 kids with 3 ex-wives, but the religion thing is a first for me.

 

[damian]

That POS Calexit got published (admittedly, for one issue, but still). So did that "We Wuz Superheros" comic Black. Some indie publishers just have no taste nor sense.

Calexit, just one? Nope.
Dont forget Black [AF] America's Sweetheart and the new series Black AF: Widows and Orphans

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

Calexit, just one? Nope.
Dont forget Black [AF] America's Sweetheart and the new series Black AF: Widows and Orphans

GrudDAMMIT!

Slightly tangential: would anyone on this site like a Storytime of Pain of some of these POS comics? I have the distinct misfortune of having read all of Black out of morbid curiosity.

 

[Done]

True to form, D&C has just uploaded a video on the Eichebwald/Perez thing:

 

[Sissy Galvez]

Do independent comics sell well? I imagine most sales come from pre-sales like kickstarters, Amazon, and at comic cons but don’t come close to matching the numbers of large comics from Marvel or DC.

The market for bad tranny/gay/lesbian comics is incredibly small.

 

[real fake]

Sometimes D&C seems like a cow worthy guy himself, but then the SJW troon comic cast just outdoes themselves over and over and just makes whatever dumb shit he does look minuscule by comparison.

 

[AJ 447]

Do independent comics sell well? I imagine most sales come from pre-sales like kickstarters, Amazon, and at comic cons but don’t come close to matching the numbers of large comics from Marvel or DC.

The market for bad tranny/gay/lesbian comics is incredibly small.

Do you mean independent, like being produced by indie companies like Image or IDW? Or independent like being individually produced?

 

[Sissy Galvez]

The first, iron spike and Image, are they as successful as marvel and dc?

 

[AJ 447]

The first, iron spike and Image, are they as successful as marvel and dc?

I don't know what Iron Spike is, but no, indie comics are nowhere near as successful as Marvel and DC, although indie comics rule the graphic novel sales.