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Felonious Monk said:
At the outset, its fairly important to note that fee shifting is not the default. Most causes of action don't allow fee shifting, although Texas has a broader than average fee shifting statute, Tex. Civ. Prac. & Rem. 38.001 that does allow fee shifting in many contract cases. Because contract cases are relatively common it has become standard practice in Texas for judges to estimate fees in the event of an appeal. Contrary to what you seem to think, these fee estimates are not just allowed they are something Texas courts do literally all the time.
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The numbers put by Chupp are merely a suggestion, it might be usual, as you say, that doesn't mean anything is "granted".

In the end, the appeal judges are free to do whatever they want with the fees.
They could keep the bill at 220K, they could increase it to less than 500K, or to more than 500K, they could even reduce it.
So it's quite presumptuous to assert that the 500K is "a forgone conclusion", it's one possibility amongst many.

Felonious Monk said:
Second, you seem to think that the court's fees order does something that it absolutely doesn't purport to do (...)
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In my last sentence, I was talking ethics, not law. And I stand by what I said.
It's basically threatening people with a financial punishement for using their right to appeal.
The purpose doesn't matter, the end result is that it feels unethical.
 
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Mister Y2 said:
So it's quite presumptuous to assert that the 500K is "a forgone conclusion", it's one possibility amongst many.
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Pretending that all possibilities are equally likely is an obvious fallacy.
Mister Y2 said:
In my last sentence, I was talking ethics, not law. And I stand by what I said.
It's basically threatening people with a financial punishement for using their right to appeal.
The purpose doesn't matter, the end result is that it feels unethical.
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Then you don't understand our court system. The point of these systems is to discourage people from continuing to litigate forever merely because they can. Each subsequent step is more costly and less likely to succeed on purpose. The court system considers finality a virtue - a feature, not a bug. By making subsequent steps more onerous you force people to consider alternatives like settling or simply walking away. Estimating the fee shifting award is just one minor variant of this.

Think it is unethical all you want, if you were really concerned about what hinders people's rights to appeal it really ought not rate very high on the list. There are plenty of other procedural and institutional roadblocks that are much harder to overcome. I think you are big mad over nothing, personally.
 
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Mike Toole's back at it again. He's deflecting blame from Sabat and Schemmel and focusing on Vic. He even links up to some parody video from 2013 that renames him 'Kip Mangina' simply to prove how petty these clique cucks can be. No mention of Justin's accusations on the broken staircase document, nor any mention of former ANN sex pest Dylan "Hazukari" Keilman outside of the usual meltdowns Gabriella Ekens has whenever Dylan shows up on social media. The ANN bias does exist.
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The Token Ethnic said:
Mike Toole's back at it again. He's deflecting blame from Sabat and Schemmel and focusing on Vic. He even links up to some parody video from 2013 that renames him 'Kip Mangina' simply to prove how petty these clique cucks can be. No mention of Justin's accusations on the broken staircase document, nor any mention of former ANN sex pest Dylan "Hazukari" Keilman outside of the usual meltdowns Gabriella Ekens has whenever Dylan shows up on social media. The ANN bias does exist.
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No the sites regurgitated bullshit from a handful of dummies for clicks. Then everyone chimed in for some attention.
 
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Ask these sacks of shit to prove or show their" evidence" at anytime,they either block you,call you a stan,insult you,ignore the question and get a bunch of their fellow faggots to jump in and attack you.
Not a good way to get people to want to see your point of view kids.
 
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PorkeyDuck said:
What underaged prostitutes you autistic faggot cuck?
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It's funny, I don't remember reading about an underage prostitute. And I've read every single paper.

Also they never like to apply their standards evenly. If the various testimonials are true, then so is Vic's "I didn't do any of this shit."

Because a conflict like that should be resolved by a J U R Y Y Y Y Y.
 
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After rereading some of the so called "affidavits of truth" today like manjaws,Plant, and the red headed bitch..,The stories are so full of shit that if those faggots got put on the stand,they would self destruct. I am fully convinced these were to never to be used at a trial but a way to hurt Vic.
 
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The Token Ethnic said:
Mike Toole's back at it again. He's deflecting blame from Sabat and Schemmel and focusing on Vic. He even links up to some parody video from 2013 that renames him 'Kip Mangina' simply to prove how petty these clique cucks can be. No mention of Justin's accusations on the broken staircase document, nor any mention of former ANN sex pest Dylan "Hazukari" Keilman outside of the usual meltdowns Gabriella Ekens has whenever Dylan shows up on social media. The ANN bias does exist.
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This isn't about Vic, but you get in there and you make it about Vic, damn it!
 
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The Token Ethnic said:
Mike Toole's back at it again. He's deflecting blame from Sabat and Schemmel and focusing on Vic. He even links up to some parody video from 2013 that renames him 'Kip Mangina' simply to prove how petty these clique cucks can be. No mention of Justin's accusations on the broken staircase document, nor any mention of former ANN sex pest Dylan "Hazukari" Keilman outside of the usual meltdowns Gabriella Ekens has whenever Dylan shows up on social media. The ANN bias does exist.
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It should be noted that ANN forums are quite orewellian nowadays, if you bring up stuff like Hazukari it's going to get deleted and you'll get banned.
 
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