The Holocaust Thread - The Great Debate Between Affirmers, Revisionists and Deniers

[Imadeanaccounttoseedoxes]

What would have stopped the Germans from, you know, shooting the people who were escaping the gas chamber, or using something to reinforce and block the door in case they tried? As for the claims of the them over stuffing the chambers, it might have been possible, considering a lot of the people going in were pretty much walking skeletons.

It doesn't matter what you imagine the Germans would have done, what matters are the claims of the official orgs, experts and witnesses of the holocaust. No one has claimed they reinforced the door, that's you revising the holocaust. Welcome aboard. You people seem to think you're at McDonalds and can choose whatever you want off the menu. 'I want a gas chamber with believable capacity and a number one with frites.' You don't get to choose. Why would the Germans put up a wooden door there to begin with if the Jews could get through it? Nazi Germany was one of the most technologically advanced countries on the planet and they couldn't figure out that a shit ton of people pushing against a wooden door with iron fittings might get through? And they would be just standing around an active gas chamber breathing in the gas? Maybe they built up a tolerance since their barracks was like 20 meters from the gas chamber at Auschwitz one to begin with. "Might have been possible" is brutal coping. This isn't a miracle that happened once. It happened routinely multiple times a day.

The technical details of how they were being gassed don't matter, what matters is that they were being gassed in the first place.

In order to be "gassed", the gas has to reach you. Getting "blasted", which seems to imply pressurized gas, would reach you quickly. Off-gassing pellets would take much longer to reach the outskirts of the chamber. The technical details in this case do matter

 

[Biden's Chosen]

This also assumes the doors were wooden at all.

Holocaust denier. Why would they lie at auschwitz?

 

[Imadeanaccounttoseedoxes]

Let's go on a little tour of Auschwitz 1. One of the things many people wonder about when they get there is why the camp has a swimming pool. The camp officials say that the pool was purely for the SS and that Jews weren't allowed to use it, but that doesn't make sense considering the location. The buildings on the right side are the Jewish sleeping quarters. Fence in the middle is the pathway for the SS patrols and way in the back above the white arrow to the left is an SS guard tower. Why would the Germans put a swimming pool, that was only for them, on the inside of the fence where the Jews are? Are they not afraid a Jew might jump in and try to drown them if they figure out they're going to be killed anyway? Did they not consider the Jews might shit and piss in the pool just on spite?

As you can see the pool is not only on the inside of the fence but also quite the walk from the SS barracks. Did the SS walk through the camp in their bathing trunks and flip-flops just to piss the Jews off? Why not build the pool on the outside of the camp near their own buildings? The pool was clearly meant for the inmates so why do they lie about it? I guess it has become a habit at this point since they lied to visitors about the Auschwitz gas chamber being a recreation after the war for 50 years. Not until a Jew by the name David Cole went to the camp in 1992 and exposed them did they start to admit to visitors that not only did they add the holes in the roof but they also knocked down several walls. Again, why not be upfront about this from the beginning? Why were they hiding this information from their visitors? In the same year the director of the camp Dr. Piper, wrote a book which revised the numbers of deaths in camp from 4 million people to 1.1 million. In one quick move 3 million deaths were gone. So much for 'very well documented.'

Now let's look at the gas chamber itself and its location. To the left in this image you see the gas chamber and to the right you see one of the SS barracks. Doesn't this look just a tad bit too close for comfort? There is no pipe extending into the air to vent out the gas like there is in modern execution chambers. They are just venting the gas at ground level right next to their own barracks? Does this seem logical to anyone? Does this seem like the work of the geniuses who somehow killed and disappeared 6 million people without a trace?

Now let's look on the inside of the gas chamber. What will immediately jump out at you is the lack of prussian blue as can be seen on the picture to the right. The cyanide gas has actually gone through the brickwork and even coated the outside of the delousing chamber. And yet the inside of the homicidal gas chamber has no coating anywhere. What you'll also notice is the big door, with lacking door fittings, that lead to the crematorium. This is an issue. Cyanide is an extremely flammable gas and as we can see on the picture on the right, even if you installed a gas-proof door the gas could still seep through the wall. Building a crematorium right next to the gas chamber is outright retarded and dangerous. The Germans knew very well that the gas was flammable. It even said on the Zyklon-B canisters: "Vor sonne und offener flamme schützen!" which means to keep it out of the sun and away from open flames. Yet the Germans built the gas chamber right next to the place with the most flames in the entire camp and hooked up electricity in there, leaving even more chances of the gas catching fire. They weren't worried some embers might still be there? This room was not a gas chamber, it was quite clearly a morgue. The big doorway had two swinging doors to be able to easily push the bodies in on a morgue trolley

 

[Lemmingwise]

Why would the Germans put a swimming pool, that was only for them, on the inside of the fence where the Jews are?

Clearly because Germans were so hateful that they wanted to watch Jewish misery as they swam and used Jewish babies as waterpolo balls.

 

[RA-5C Vigilante]

Gonna come back to this thread and say I think it did happen, but the numbers are a bit fucky.

What irks me more is the usage of the Holocaust as a cudgel for Jews and more importantly Israel to get away with abhorrent shit, which is almost as bad as using it for a payday as way too many authors or "Jewish Support Groups" have turned the suffering and slaughter of innocents to make a quick buck.
I recommend a book called "The Holocaust Industry" by Norman Finkelstein, who was called an anti-semite by Jewish groups, which is laughable by looking at his name, and made a gutbuster by the fact he started writing it after noticing his SURVIVOR PARENTS never talked about their ordeal.

 

[mario if smoke weed]

The Lutherian Jews let the Holocaust happen. They killed their own and used Nazis as a scapegoat to avoid repercussions.

 

[Greyfield]

The Lutherian Jews let the Holocaust happen. They killed their own and used Nazis as a scapegoat to avoid repercussions.

A lot of what we call the Holocaust is people slaughtering Jews in their own communities as the Nazis swept through Europe. Obviously the Nazis slaughtered a huge amount, but a lot of people did it on their own because they thought a new world order was coming. Think about the Polish Jews that were killed in the Holocaust, a tremendous amount died because the Polish police gave up their own citizens. Offered them on a silver platter at the behest of the Nazis.

The biggest genocidal project in WW2 was General Plan Ost. The Nazis were planning to wipe out the slavs of Europe and recolonize their territory with settler Germans to multiply for the future. They directly took inspiration from what the Americans did to the Native Americans, but they wanted to fast forward that with industrialized murder. Had the Soviets not stopped them, the entire racial make up of Europe and Asia would have been reshaped forever.

 

[Imadeanaccounttoseedoxes]

In my first post I wrote about the mentions of 6 million before the Nuremberg trials and said there was a lot of them. I feel I didn't emphasize this point enough. Recently I've been archiving a lot of these news articles and I'd like you folks to get a feel for just how often this number was thrown around. This list only include some of the mentions between 1850 to 1945. We could go back all the way to the Bible where 600k men left Egypt, but I think this list should drive the point home. There is far less space in each post than I expected, so I won't be able to fit them all in one, or likely not even two. Here's a paste, but it doesn't look as neat as it will here

Spoiler: Part 1 of mentions of 6 million and/or holocaust 1850 to 1945

*Couldn't to find archive*

1850 - British Society for the Propagation of the Gospel among the Jews (ed.), The Jewish Herald and Record of Christian Effort for the Spiritual Good of God’s Ancient People, Vol. V, Aylott & Jones, London, August 1850, page 216:

"there are now living about 6,000,000 Israelites" in the world (reprinted in the Christian Spectator 1850, page 496).

1866 - Brigham Young, The Latter-Day Saints’ Millennial Star, Vol. 28, London 1866, p. 677 (archive)

"there are but about 6,000,000 Jews in the world"

1869 - The New York Times, 12 September 1869, page 8 (archive)

"there are now living about 6,000,000 Israelites, nearly one half of whom live in Europe." Repeated on 31 October 1869.

1889 - The New York Times, 10 February 1889, page 14 (archive)

"How Many Jews Are There? […] the lowest [estimate] that could be entertained, stated the number of the ubiquitous race at 6,000,000."

1891 - The New York Times, 26 January 1891, Page 8 (archive)

". . . six million persecuted and miserable wretches remain steadfastly faithful to a religion that causes their life to be changed into a fiery furnace"

1896 - "Russia and Religious Liberty," The New York Times, 15 March 1891, page 30 (archive)

"the [Russian] Jews are 5,000,000 or 6,000,000."

1900 - Stephen S. Wise, New York Times, June 11, 1900, Page 7 - ZIONISTS' MASS MEETING (archive)

"There are 6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism."

1902 - Encyclopaedia Britannica, 10th Edition, Vol. 25, 1902, page 482 (archive)

"While there are in Russia and Rumania six millions of Jews who are being systematically degraded ..."

1902 - Samuel W. Goldstein, New York Times, November 27, 1902, Page 8 - PLEA FOR ZIONISM (archive)

"PLEA FOR ZIONISM ... In answer I would say: Does Dr. Silverman represent the 6,000,000 Jews in Russia"

1903 - J. LEONARD LEVY., The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), September 18th, 1903, Page 6 - JOSHUA OF THE FUTURE

" ... six million downtrodden brethren."

1904 - The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), February 19th, 1904, Page 2

"He referred chiefly to Russia and the Balkans, where five or six million people existed under persecution"

1904 - The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), October 7th, 1904, Page 1

" ... the final and definite deliverance of the six millions of Russian, Roumanian and Galician Jews ... transporting five or six million people over the sea."

1904 - Israel Zangwill, New York Times, October 20, 1904, Page 7 - ZANGWILL HERE TO AID JEWISH COLONY SCHEME (archive)

"The problem does not relate to the American Jews, but to the 6,000,000 in Russia. The Russian Government has consented to allow the Jews to leave,"

1905 - New York Times, January 29th, 1905, Page 2 - END OF ZIONISM, MAYBE (archive)

"He declared that a free and a happy Russia, with its 6,000,000 Jews, would possibly mean the end of Zionism, since the abolition of the autocracy would practically eliminate the causes that brought Zionism into existence."

1905 - New York Times, 1 November 1905, Page 2 - Pobiedonstzeff Resigns (archive)

"From 1890 to 1902 [Chief Procurator of the Holy Synod Pobledonostzeff] caused 6,000,000 Jewish families to be expelled from Russia…"

1906 - New York Times, 25 March 1906, Page 48 - Dr Paul Nathan's view of Russian Massacre (archive)

"Startling reports the condition and future of Russia’s 6,000,000 Jews were made on March 12 in Berlin to the annual meeting of the Central Jewish Relief League of Germany by Dr. Paul Nathan… He left St. Petersburg with the firm conviction that the Russian Government’s studied policy for the ‘solution’ of the Jewish question is systematic and murderous extermination."

1907 - The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), 18 October 1907, page 13

"… for six million people cannot emigrate.

1908 - Deseret Evening News, 17 March 1908, Page 4 - Russian Jews (archive)

"… poverty, starvation and disease are the afflictions which now beset the six million Jews in that country and Roumania."

1908 - The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), 7 August 1908, Page 3

"… when six million Russian Jews are crying…"

1910 - The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), 4 February 1910, Page 7

"SIX MILLION BABIES SAVED BY STRAUS."

1910 - The New York Times, 13 March 1910, Page 18 - "Many Jews Flee from Russia" (archive)

Russia’s "Jewish population of roundly 6,000,000"

1910 - New York Times, April 11, 1910, Page 18 - RUSSIAN JEWS IN SAD PLIGHT (archive)

"The systematic, relentless, quiet grinding down of a people of more than 6.000.000 souls."

1911 - Encyclopaedia Britannica, 11th Edition, Vol. 2, 1911, page 145

"While there remain in Russia and Rumania over six millions of Jews who are being systematically degraded…"

1911 - Max Nordau speaking at the 1911 Zionist Congress. Ben Hecht, Perfidy, NY: Julian Messner, 1961, page 254 (224 in PDF) (archive)

"But the same righteous Governments, who are so nobly, industriously active to establish the eternal peace, are preparing, by their own confession, complete annihilation for six million people"

1911 - Fort Wayne Journal Gazette (Ind.), 4 June 1911, page 15 (archive)

"PRINCE, PRIEST AND PEASANT WAGE WAR AGAINST SIX MILLION JEWS"

1911 - The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), 18 August 1911, page 14

"Very soon a fervid Russian patriotism will reign in every Ghetto, and the melting-up of the race begin. But this absorption of the five or six million Jews…"

1911 - Max Nordau, The Jewish Chronicle (London), 18 August 1911, page 14 (archive)

"… the downfall of six million creatures… for no war has ever yet destroyed six million human lives."

1911 - The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), 25 August 1911, Page 3 - Present Day Zionism

"… six million Jews are still groaning under the most terrible yoke."

1911 - The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), 1 September 1911, page 3 - Where Does the Jew Stand?

"… the downfall of six million creatures… for no war has ever yet destroyed six million human lives."

1911 - New York Times, 31 October 1911, Page 5 - CHURCHES IN PLEA TO CZAR FOR JUSTICE (archive)

"The 6,000,000 Jews of Russia are singled out for systematic oppression and for persecution due to process of law."

1911 - New York Times, 10 December 1911, Page 72 - "Condition of the Jews in Russia Worst in History" (archive)

"The Russian Government […] is making the 6,000,000 Jews a people economically exhausted—a people without any rights at all."

1912 - American Jewish Year Book 5672 (23 Sep 1911 - 11 Sep 1912), page 308

"Russia has since 1890 adopted a deliberate plan to expel or exterminate six millions of its people for no other reason than that they refuse to become members of the Greek Church, but prefer to remain Jews."

1912 - The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), 5 January 1912, Page 3 - The Situation of the Jews in America

"… more than six million Jews reside in small towns and villages there is no Sabbath question."

1913 - Fort Wayne Journal Gazette (Ind.), 18 October 1913, page 4 (archive)

"There are six million Jews in Russia and the government is anxious to annihilate them by methods that provoke protests from the civilized world."

1914 - The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), 10 July 1914, page 9

"Russia and Roumania, where six million Jews are suffering"

-- First World War Starts --


1914 - New York Times, 2 December 1914, page 12 (archive)

"APPEAL FOR AID FOR JEWS. … the plight of more than 6,000,000 Jews… upon the Jewish people, more than nine millions of whom live in the countries at war and over six million of these in the actual war zone in Poland, Galicia and the whole of the Russian frontier."

1915 - New York Times, 14 January 1915, page 3 - JEWS' INDIFFERENCE TO WAR AID REBUKED (archive)

"In the world today there are about 13,000,000 Jews, of whom more than 6,000,000 are in the heart of the war zone; Jews whose lives are at stake and who today are subjected to every manner of suffering and sorrow…"

1915 - The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), 19 March 1915, Page 15

"How the casting of six million people into the deepest abyss of servitude and outlawry is to relieve tension we cannot understand."

1915 - The Sun (N.Y.), 6 June 1915, section 5, page 1 (archive)

"Six million Jews, one-half of the Jewish people throughout the world, are being persecuted, hounded, humiliated, tortured, starved. … six million Jews in Russia… are being tortured so mercilessly."

1915 - The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), 25 June 1915, Page 4

"The annihilation of the six million Jews now congregated in the Russian domains goes on in a well-defined and systematic manner."

1915 - Jacob de Hass, The Boston Sunday Globe, 26 September 1915, page 46 (archive)

"Indeed the only point that all warring elements are agreed upon is that at the end of the holocaust the Jews and Palestine will be more closely related than at present."

1915 - New York Tribune, 14 October 1915, Page 6 - Jewish Suffering and Amernia (archive)

"What the Turks are doing to Armenians is child’s play compared to what Russia is doing to six million Jews, her own subjects."

1915 - The Mercury, 4 December 1915, Page 7 (archive)

"six millions of Russian and Polish Jews are to-day the most pitiable victims of that race hatred and that race fanaticism which have been the creed of Germany"

1916 - The Jews in the Eastern War Zone, The American Jewish Committee (ed.), 1916, pages 19f., 29, 47, 60, 66 (archive)

"… where six million human beings guilty only of adherence to the Jewish faith are compelled to live out their lives in squalor and misery, in constant terror of massacre… estimated at six million or more… of these six million people… a kind of prison with six million inmates… The persons most affected, the six million Jews of Russia… The Jews are loyal and brave, and it is most inadvisable to pursue a policy which might convert six million subjects into enemies.… the six million Jews of Russia still continued… nearly three of the six million…"

1916 - Sausalito News (CA), 22 January 1916, page 1 - Help the Jews (archive)

"... six million starving Polish Jews in the war stricken countries of Europe"

1916 - Oakland Tribune (Cal.), 26+27 January 1916, page 1 (FRONT PAGE ADVERT 2 DAYS RUNNING) (27) (archive jan 26 27)

"The President of the United States—6,000,000 Starving, Homeless, People—Why should the President, by proclamation to the people of the nation, fix upon January 27th as the day for contributing towards the relief of over six million Jews located in the Far Eastern War Zone?"

1916 - The Tacoma Times, 28 February 1916, Page 3 - Predicts Influx of Jews to U.S (archive)

"… there were 6,000,000 Jews in Europe absolutely without food or resources."

1916 - New York Times, 28 February 1916, Page 9 - Schiff Gives $25,000 to Immigrant Society (archive)

"Nearly six million Jews are ruined in the greatest moral and material misery; millions of them are refugees, dependent upon the good will of their brethren."

1916 - Kalamazoo Gazette (Kalamazoo, MI), Wednesday, 1 March 1916, page 1

"WAR MAY MOVE 6,000,000 JEWS ... Nearly six million Jews are ruined."

1916 - The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), 31 March 1916, page 6

"Position of the Jews in Russia. The Jews in Russia, numbering about six million, are denied full political and civil rights and are economically oppressed."

1916 - New York Herald, 5 March 1916, Section III, page 10:

"Six million Jews, old men, women and little children, are suffering from the greatest calamity that has befallen Israel since the Egyptian bondage."

1916 – North Devon Journal, 9 March 1916, page 7

“In Poland, in Southern and Western Russia, six million Jews resided when the War broke out. They lived there in the Pale of Settlement, in poverty, and were terribly overcrowded.”

1916 – Fort Wayne Journal Gazette (Ind.), 12 March 1916, page 34 (archive)

“… six million Jews reported starving in the warring countries.”

1916 – El Paso Herald, 22 April 1916, page 5 (archive)

“Six Million Jews Are Deprived Of Papers By Russian Censorship. … Six million Jews have been robbed of their newspapers.”

1916 – The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), 4 August 1916, Page 3

“... six million Jews ...”

1917 – Corsicana Daily Sun, 16 February 1917, page 2 (archive)

“Six million Jews are living in lands where they are oppressed, exploited, crushed and robbed of every inalienable human right.”

1918 – Fort Wayne News and Sentinel (Ind.), 22 June 1918, page 1 (archive)

“In the war zone of Europe there are six million Jews who have been the war’s worst sufferers, …”

1918 – The Columbus Jewish Chronicle, 28 June 1918, page 1

“Claims Palestine Has Room For Six Million… It is quite possible for Palestine to find room for five to six millions… 800,000 hectares will suffice to produce the food of six millions of people, …”

1918 – The Bakersfield Californian, 30 July 1918, page 4 (archive)

“… the six million starving Jews in Poland, Galicia and other stricken Eastern provinces…”

1918 – The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), 5 September 1918, Page 17

“… Russia, where the bulk of the Jewish people to the number of well over six million still dwell, is a land of blood and midnight darkness.”

1918 – The Columbus Jewish Chronicle, 13 September 1918, page 1

“The report describes the havoc the war has caused among the six million Jews of Russia. Driven by the invading armies, the Jews have been compelled to flee from their homes;”

1918 – New York Times, 18 October 1918, page 12 (archive)

“Six million Souls Will Need Help to Resume Normal Life When War Is Ended. … Committee of American Jews Lays Plans for the Greatest Humanitarian Task in History. … 6,000,000 Jews Need Help.”

--- End of WW1 ---


1919 – The Bourbon News, 1 April 1919, page 4 (archive)

“… six million Jews in Poland, Lithuania, Galicia, Palestine, Turkey and Siberia who are dying of starvation, …”

1919 – The Corsicana Daily Sun, 3 April 1919, page 5 (archive)

“SIX MILLION ARE STARVING ... It is estimated that there are six million Jewish women, children and aged men actually starving to death.”

1919 – The Galveston Daily News, 4 April 1919, page 3 (archive)
1919 – The Watchman and Southron, 5 April 1919, Page 7 (archive)

“Six million Jews in Poland, Lithuania, Galicia, Palestine, Turkey and Siberia are dying of starvation. … These six million despairing souls are totally dependent on American generosity for the bare necessities of life.”

1919 – The Galveston Daily News, 5 April 1919, page 5 (archive)

“Six million Jews are dying of starvation.”

1919 – The Galveston Daily News, 6 April 1919, page 8 (archive)
1919 – El Paso Herald, 7 April 1919, Page 8 (archive)
1919 – San Antonio Express, 8 April 1919, page 15 (archive)
1919 – The Corsicana Daily Sun, 9 April 1919, page 8 (archive)
1919 – Daily Kentucky New Era, Wednesday, 9 April 1919, pages 4f
1919 – The Corsicana, Semi-Weekly Light, 11 April 1919, page 5 (archive)

“The American Jewish Relief Committee is endeavoring to save from starvation six million Jews who are the helpless victims of the German terror.”

1919 – San Antonio Express, 9 April 1919, page 12 (archive)

“At no other time in the history of the Jewish people has the need been so great as now. Six million of our brothers and sisters are dying of starvation. The entire race is threatened with extinction.”

1919 – The Wellington Leader (Tex.), 11 April 1919, page 1 (archive)

“We wish to call the attention of our people to the great drive that is on to raise funds for the relief of the six million Jews who are starving in the war ridden districts of the east.”

1919 – The Daily Courier (Pa.), 4 August 1919 page 9 (archive)

“APPEALS TO AMERICA TO ACT QUICKLY IF LIVES OF SOME SIX MILLION JEWS ARE TO BE SAVED… The lives of some six million people are at stake.”

1919 – The Fulton Patriot, 3 September 1919, page 4 (archive)

“WORLD JEWRY AT GREATEST CRISIS Leaders in America Striving to Save Race in Europe From Destruction. … All told, many million Christians and more than 6,000,000 Jews in countries other than the United States are being directly aided by American Jewish relief funds.”

1919 – New York Times, 8 September 1919, page 6 (archive)

“127,000 Jews Have Been Killed and 6,000,000 Are in Peril. … 6,000,000 souls in Ukrainia and in Poland have received notice through action and by word that they are going to be completely exterminated – this fact stands before the whole world as the paramount issue of the present day.”

1919 – The Fort Wayne News and Sentinel, 17 September 1919, page 18 (archive)

“… six million Jews are dying of starvation and where vast numbers of them—innocent victims of the ravages of war—wander homeless, and in rags.”

1919 – Trenton Evening Times (Trenton, N.J.), 28 September 1919, page 4

“Six Million Jews Reported Destitute in Eastern Europe.”

 

[Imadeanaccounttoseedoxes]

I didn't even make it to the start of WW2 in the second post. The post limits are too low. I don't want to spam too much, so I'll end it here. Rest are in the paste or in a PDF when I get around to making it. The amount is staggering. Some of them are behind a paywall, but they have 'OCR text' on the page which can be used to verify the legitimacy of the quotes

Spoiler: Part 2 of mentions of 6 million and/or holocaust 1850 to 1945

1919 – Rushville Daily Republican, 29 September 1919, page 4 (archive)
1919 – Tipton Tribune, 29 September 1919, page 2 (archive)
1919 – Fort Wayne Journal Gazette, 1 October 1919, page 4 (archive)
1919 – The Washington Democrat, 2 October 1919, page 1 (archive)
1919 – Cape Vincent Eagle, 23 October 1919, Page 8 (archive)

“The thought that as I walk the streets of this prosperous and happy town there are 6,000,000 people in other lands without food, shelter or raiment is disturbing. … When I read, as I have read all my life, of the persecution and slaughter of the Jews I am not proud of my own race or my religion. … Six million people perishing!”

1919 – The Colorado Springs Gazette, 2 October 1919

“SIX MILLION JEWS FORM DAILY IN A BREAD LINE ... Six million Jews, men, women and children, a number as great as the population of the state of Illinois including Chicago, form the bread line in Europe every day.”

1919 – Janesville Daily Gazette (Wis.), 4 October 1919, page 4 (archive)

“… the Feast Day of Rosh Hashonah. It was not a feast day for some six million starving Jews of Europe because every day for the past four years has been a fast day for them. … the five year fast that has been the lot of the 6,000,000 Jews in Europe.”

1919 – Sheboygan Press (Wis.), 4 October 1919, page 2 (archive)

“… the Feast Day of Rosh Hashonah. It was not a feast day for some six million starving Jews of Europe because every day for the past four years has been a fast day for them. … the five year fast that has been the lot of the 6,000,000 Jews in Europe.”

1919 – The Pittsburgh Gazette Times – 5 October 1919, page 72 (archive)

“Still they live—these 6,000,000 helpless, starving, homeless people ... JEWISH WAR RELIEF COMMITTEE”

1919 – The Fort Wayne Journal-Gazette (Ind.), 6 October 1919, page 3 (archive)

“With six million of their population in absolute want, they are unable alone to render sufficient aid… There are to-day to be found in the ten provinces of Russia, Poland and the fifteen provinces called the ‘Pale of Settlement’ six millions of these peaceful and law abiding people… We do not see with our eyes the evidences of want and degradation into which six million Jews have been thrown suddenly through no fault of their own.”

1919 – Indiana Weekly Messenger, 9 October 1919, page 1 & 4 (archive)

“Life for six millions in the shadow of death! … Six millions mean what? … Six million souls, old men, old women, and little children in Poland, Lithuania, Russia, Palestine, Galicia, Turkey, Syria, Roumania, Greece, and Bulgaria are in imminent danger of starving to death this winter. … The responsibility of maintaining life in these six million sufferers rests upon every man and woman in the United States… Helping the Jews in their extremity is not helping the Bolsheviks,” the speaker emphatically declared.”

1919 – Schenectady Gazette, 16 October 1919, page 15

“Today 6,000,000 Jews Are Facing the Darkest Days Ever Known in the Long History of the Race.”

1919 – Titusville Herald, 18 October 1919, page 4 (archive)

“… Jewish Relief Fund… Contribute Today, the Last Day and Help Save From Death Six Millions of Starving People.”

1919 – San Francisco Chronicle, 19 October 1919, Page 8? (quote unconfirmed but reference to 6 mill on page (archive)

“6,000,000 JEWS IN BREAD LINE, STRAUS WRITES. More Than Third of Entire Race in World Reduced to Despair in Europe. … Six million Jews, out of the 16,000,000 in the world…”

1919 – The American Hebrew, 31 October 1919, page 582 - “The Crucifixion of Jews Must Stop!” (2) (archive 1 2)

“From across the sea six million men and women call to us for help ... Within them reside the illimitable possibilities for the advancement of the human race as naturally would reside in six million human beings. ... In this catastrophe, when six million human beings are being whirled toward the grave by a cruel and relentless fate, only the most idealistic promptings of human nature should sway the heart and move the hand. Six million men and women are dying from lack of the necessaries of life [...] bigoted lust for Jewish blood. In this threatened holocaust of human life in the name of the humanity of Moses to six million famished men and women. Six million men and women are dying ... six million Jewish men and women are starring across the seas ...”

1919 – The Evening Tribune Providence, 31 October 1919, page 11

“In the midst of our campaign for the relief of the six million Jews of Eastern Europe…”

1919 – The Record (Johnson City, N.Y.), 1 November 1919, page 8 (23) (archive)

“There are 6,000,000 Jews in eastern Europe whom the war has left dependent upon America for aid.”

1919 – Beatrice Daily Sun (Neb.), 8 November 1919, page 2 (archive)

“The territory which Mr. Hoover visited is but a part of that in which 6,000,000 Jews, suffers of war and war’s equally horrible after-math, stand helpless today, … The Need: SIX MILLION STARVING SOULS. Six million Jews in Poland, Lithuania, Galicia, Palestine, Turkey and Siberia are dying of starvation. … These six million despairing souls are totally dependent on American generosity for the bare necessities of life. The Object: $35,000,000 for 6,000,000 LIVES”

1919 – Lebanon Daily News (Pa.), 11 November 1919, page 2

“DISEASE AND STARVATION IN POLAND Lieut. Wright Tells of Half Starved People Clad in Rags BREAD OUT OF LEAVES Says 6,000,000 Face Death This Winter Unless Given Immediate Relief… 6,000,000 Face Death… Six million Jews in eastern Europe face death during the coming winter, …”

1919 – New York Times, 12 November 1919, Page 7 (archive)

“The Jews were the worst sufferers in the war. The successive blows of contending armies have all but broken the back of European Jewry and have reduced to tragically unbelievable poverty, starvation and disease about 6,000,000 souls, or half the Jewish population of the earth.”

1919 – Gouverneur Free Press, 12 November 1919 (archive)

“Six Million Men and Women Are Dying… Won’t You Help Them? … From across the sea six million men and women call to us for help… in six million human beings… In this catastrophe, when six million human beings are being whirled toward the grave by a cruel and relentless fate… Six million men and women are dying… Six million men and women are dying… Because of this war for Democracy six million Jewish men and women are starving across the seas… Six million men and women of the race that helped do the greatest of the world’s work are falling into the grave! … six million famished men and women now turn mute eyes of appeal…”

1919 – Chester Times (Pa.), 28 November 1919, page 15

“There are 6,000,000 Jews in Eastern Europe whom the war has left dependent upon us for aid.”

1919 – Ironwood News Record (Mich.), 6 December 1919, page 9 (archive)

“For First Time in History of Race, Jews Are Asking Others For Help. … They are doing it because six million Jews in eastern and central Europe are actually in need of food at this moment. … The problem of 6,000,000 starving men, women and little children ought to be the problem of all humanity.”

1919 – Lima News (Ohio), 24 December 1919, page 3 (archive)
1920 – Tulsa Daily World, 11 April 1920, section B, page 14 (archive)
1920 – Utica Herald-Dispatch, 20 April 1920, page 9 (archive)

“Today Six Million Jews Are Facing the Darkest Days Ever Known In the History of the Race.”

1919 – The Toledo News-Bee, 27 December 1919 (archive)

“Six Million Human Beings Are Suffering the Tortures of Disease, Hunger and Death… American Jewish Relief Committee”

1920 – Van Wert Daily Bulletin (Ohio), 5 January 1920, page 3 (archive)

“… Jewish relief work in Europe and Asia. There are six million Jews in the two continents who because of the war have been made destitute.”

1920 – Manti Messenger (Utah), 19 March 1920 (archive)

“Just now some six million of Jews, eight hundred thousand of them just children, are in imminent danger of starvation in eastern Europe.”

1920 – New York Times, 1 May 1920, page 8 (archive)

“Just Another Drive, but the Lives of 6,000,000 Human Beings Wait Upon the Answer.”

1920 – New York Times, 2 May 1920, Section 2, page 1 (Page 34) (archive)

“... six million human beings, without food, shelter, clothing or medical treatment.”

1920 – New York Times, 3 May 1920, page 11 (archive)

“Your help is needed to save the lives of six million people in Eastern and Central Europe.”

1920 – New York Times, 5 May 1920, page 9 and 19 (archive 9 19)

“... to save six million men and women in Eastern Europe from extermination by hunger and disease.”

“Six million starving, fever-stricken sufferers in war-torn Europe appeal to us.”

1920 – New York Times, 7 May 1920, Page 11 (archive)

“… Jewish war sufferers in Central and Eastern Europe where six millions face horrifying conditions of famine, disease and death.”

1920 – A poster tied to a lamppost in a photograph in the 1 June 1920 edition (Vol. 1, No. 3) of Jewish Relief News:

“JEWISH WAR RELIEF CAMPAIGN (—) MAY 2 TO 9 (—) SIX MILLION STARVING SOULS”

1920 – Montgomery Advertiser (Montgomery, AL), 29 June 1920, page 5 (archive)

“Must They Pay the Price? Victims of the War—In the Path of Five Armies […] Six Million Jews have been pillaged, plundered, mal-treated, driven about the country like cattle.”

1920 – Ogden Standard Examiner, 8 August 1920, page 9 (archive)

“PUSH DRIVE FOR JEWISH RELIEF ... Mr. Bond declared today that there are six million jews [sic] in eastern and central Europe whom the war has left dependent upon America.”

1920 – The Ogden Standard-Examiner, 20 August 1920, page 9 (archive)

“… there are six million Jews in eastern and central Europe whom the war has left dependent upon America.”

1920 – New York Tribune, 29 August 1920, Page 12 (archive)

“Six million Jews were made homeless by five years of foreign and domestic wars.”

1920 – Brooklyn Daily Eagle, 29 August 1920, Page 13

“Six million Jews had been made homeless, starving, naked and plague ridden by five years of foreign and domestic wars that swept Poland.”

1921 – New York Times, 20 July 1921, page 2 (archive)

“BEGS AMERICA SAVE 6,000,000 IN RUSSIA. Russia’s 6,000,000 Jews are facing extermination by massacre.”

1922 - The New York Call, 2 January 2, 1922, page 2

“JEWS MEET HERE JAN. 15 TO PLAN CAMPAIGN FOR $6,000,000 FOR RELIEF”

1922 – Lowell Sun (Mass.), 22 March 1922, page 14 (archive)

“The Jews in the immediate district for which the aid of the war sufferers’ campaign is to be given numbered over six million. … Over 300,000 orphans, over 150,000 desecrated women, over six million wandering Jews walking, crawling in their misery, feeding on the bark of trees and on herbs that grow by the wayside.”

1925 – Lawrence Journal-World (Kansas), 29 June 1925, page 5 (archive)

“Jewish National Fund Invests Almost $6,000,000 in Palestine”

1926 – Encyclopaedia Britannica, 13th Edition, Vol. 1, 1926, page 145

“While there remain in Russia and Rumania over six millions of Jews who are being systematically degraded…”

1926 – Canadian Jewish Review, 9 April 1926, page 4

“… the extreme need of 6,000,000 Jews in Russia and Poland, …”

1926 – New York Times, 21 April 1926, Page 16 (archive)

“In Heaven’s Name, Arouse the Jews of America! New York’s Quota: $6,000,000 United Jewish Campaign of New York”

1930 – The Daily Times (Pa.), 15 March 1930, page 5 (archive)

“Will Raise $6,000,000 for Upbuilding Palestine and to Rehabilitate Jews of Eastern Europe”

1931 – The Montreal Gazette, 28 December 1931, page 25 (archive)

“SIX MILLION JEWS FACE STARVATION. … FEARS CRISIS AT HAND. … six million Jews in Eastern Europe face starvation, and even worse, during the coming winter.”

Movie made in 1932
1932 – Symphony of Six Million, movie, 29 April 1932


1933 – New York Times, 29 March 1933, Page 9 (archive)

The Joint Distribution Committee “is now active in relief and reconstructive work in Eastern Europe where 6,000,000 Jews are involved.”

1933 – The Jewish Western Bulletin, 21 September 1933 (archive)

“At this period of human persecution and of human destruction, when life, especially Jewish life has ceased to be of any value in the cruel land of bloody Germany, when the lives of hundreds of thousands are tortured and hang in the balance – during this holocaust…”

1935 – New York Times, 8 September 1935, page 26 (archive)

“The preliminary session of the first world conference of the Federation of Polish Jews being attended by sixty delegates from eighteen countries representing 6,000,000 Jews…”

1936 – Kabbalist & Zionist Jacob de Hass, B’nai B’rith Magazine The National Jewish Monthly, Volume 50, Number 6, March 1936

“Six million Jews are affected by this omnipresent fear (‘of another world war’)”

1936 – Chaim Weizmann, Reden und Aufsätze 1901-1936, Jüd. Bucherverlag Erwin Löwe, Berlin 1937, page 272-4:

“It is no exaggeration to say that six million Jews are sentenced to be imprisoned in this part of the world, where they are unwanted, and for whom the countries are divided into those, where they are unwanted, and those, where they are not admitted. … It is ultimately the fate of six million people!”

1936 – New York Times, 31 May 1936, page 14 (archive)

“AMERICANS APPEAL FOR JEWISH REFUGE.” The petition, in expressing the opinion of enlightened Christian leadership in the United States, favoring a larger Jewish immigration into Palestine, stressed the intolerable sufferings of the millions of Jews in “the European holocaust. … to save these unfortunate millions from total annihilation…”

1936 – The Jewish Western Bulletin, 12 June 1936, page 3

“Great Britain has it within her power to throw open the gates of Palestine and let in the victimized and persecuted Jews escaping from the European holocaust.”

1936 – The Montreal Gazette, 8 August 1936, page 5 (archive)

“Delegates of 32 Nations Represent six million Hebrews.”

1936 – Chaim Weizmann, speech before the Peel Commission on Palestine, King David Hotel in Jerusalem, November 25, 1936

“If one goes further afield (in Europe), and takes the Jewries of Rumania, Latvia, Lithuania, Austria, ones see practically the same picture, and it is no exaggeration on my part to say that today six million — I am not speaking of the Jews in Persia and Morocco and such places, who are very inarticulate, one hears very little of them — in that part of the world are doomed to be pent up in places where they are not wanted, ... These six million people to whom I have referred are condemned to live from hand to mouth. ... it affects the fate of six million people.”

1936 – Chaim Weizmann, The (London) Times, 26 November 1936

“While in Western Europe many individual Jews had happy homes, in Eastern Europe there were 6,000,000 unwanted unfortunates who were condemned to be penned up in places where they could not live. … the presence of these 6,000,000 people without a future whose condition was a threat to Europe.”

1936 – Chaim Weizmann, The Jewish Western Bulletin, 11 December 1936, page 4

“… where six million Jews are in a position which is neither life nor death.”

1936 – New York Post, 11 December 1936, page 19

“JEWISH RELIEF BOARD TO HEAR LEHMAN SUDAY Gathering to consider the crisis confronting 6,000,000 Jews in Central and Eastern Europe, …”

1937 – Fitchburg Sentinel, 17 February 1937, page 1 & 11 (archive 1 11)

“Stating that “6,000,000 Jews in central Europe have neither life nor death because of extreme persecution,” Mrs Emanuel Halpern of New York city, member of the national board of Hadassah urged… Today there are 6,000,000 million (sic) Jews in central Europe who have neither life nor death.”

1937 – The Jewish Criterion, 3 September 1937, Page 93

"Perhaps the reason for their happy condition is that they constitute only one third of one per cent of the total population of over six million"

1937 – Albany Evening News (NY), 27 May 1937, page 6

“The plight of six million Jews in Europe is an outstanding indictment against the ruthlessness of dictatorships that have seen fit to utilize uncivilized and thoroughly un-Christian methods in the persecution of minorities, in order to gain their personal and selfish attainments. It is our duty to try to alleviate the perilous conditions of the youth in Germany and Poland, and it is the duty of every Jew to assist in raising the quota that is allotted to use [recte: us].”

1937 – Chaim Weizmann speech (4 August 1937) at the World Zionist Conference, Switzerland, The Manchester Guardian, 9 August 1937, page 13 (archive)

“I told the Royal Commission [on Palestine, Nov 25, 1936] that the hopes of 6,000,000 Jews are centred on emigration. Then I was asked: ‘But can you bring 6,000,000 to Palestine?’ I replied: ‘No. I am acquainted with the laws of physics and chemistry and I know the force of material factors. In our generation I divide the figure by three, and you can see in that the depth of the Jewish tragedy—two millions of youth, with their lives before them, who have lost the most elementary of rights, the right to work.’ The old ones will pass, they will bear their fate or they will not. They are dust, economic and moral dust in a cruel world.”

1937 – The Jewish Western Bulletin, 31 December 1937, Page 2

“The number six million is often used to describe the Jewish population of Central and Eastern Europe.”

1938 – New York Times, 9 January 1938, page 12 (archive)

“PERSECUTED JEWS SEEN ON INCREASE. 6,000,000 VICTIMS NOTED. … Five to six million in all are today the victims of governmental anti-Semitism…”

1938 – New York Times, 23 February 1938, page 23 (archive)

“A depressing picture of 6,000,000 Jews in Central Europe deprived of protection or economic opportunities, slowly dying of starvation, all hope gone… Now anti-Semitism has spread to thirteen European nations, and threatens the very existence of millions of Jews.”

1938 – Sunday Times-Advertiser (Trenton, N.J.), 20 March 1938

“The simple fact is that the fate of six million Jews in Poland, Roumania, Germany and Austria hangs in the balance.”

1938 – The Guardian, 4 April 1938, page 11 (archive)

“Six million Jews at this moment are trapped like rats…”

1938 – New York Times, 2 May 1938, Page 18 (archive)

“The rising tide of anti-Semitism in Europe today, which has deprived more than 6,000,000 Jews and non-Aryans of a birthright…”

1938 – Jacob Lestshinsky, “The Jews of Central Europe,” in Jewish Frontier, Vol. 5, No. 6, June 1938, page 13

“EVERY NATION is morally compelled to face the bitter truth. This article is written not with the intent of bewailing our plight but in order to arrive at a factual calculation of the status of six million Jews in Central and Eastern Europe and of the prospects that exist in the lands of immigration.”

1938 – Port Arthur News, 9 June 1938, page 1 (archive)

“It is estimated that nearly six million Jews have been driven from their homes by ruthless oppressors and stripped not only of their property but their right to work for a living.”

1938 – Rochester Democrat and Chronicle, 16 June 1938, page 18 (archive)

“Judge Lewis urged American members of the race to swing moral and financial powers into the channels of evacuating some 6,000,000 Jews to Palestine.”

1938 – Turtle Mountain Star, Rolla, North Dakota, 6 October 1938, Page 8 (archive)

“Five or six million Jews, uprooted by dictatorship and tossed about by economic storms, may have to depend upon the development of the Holy Land, under British mandate, as a solution to their difficulties. But they face the hostility of the Arabs living there, whose economic and religious interests conflict with theirs. … protects the settlers from the raiding Arabs. … The Arabs Are Coming!

 

[Ultima Ratio Regum]

Here's a selection of good readings, in case some people would still believe in the Holohoax fairytales in 2021.​

The Victories of Revisionism (Archive)​

The Victories of Revisionism (continued) (Archive)​

The Zündel Trials - 1985 and 1988 (Archive)​

A look back at my discovery, on March 19, 1976, of the building plans for the Auschwitz and Birkenau crematoria (Archive)​

The Matrix of Converging Evidence (Archive)

The Dachau Gas Chamber Myth (Archive)​

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In the first link, The Victories of Revisionism, published in 2006, Robert Faurisson writes:​

6) On April 21, 1982 an association (the “ASSAG”) was created in Paris for “the study of murders by gassing under the National Socialist regime”, “with a view to seeking and verifying elements bearing proof of the use of poison gasses in Europe by the officials of the National Socialist regime to kill persons of various nationalities, to contributing to the publication of this evidence, to making, to that purpose, all useful contacts on the national and international level”. Article 2 of the association’s charter stipulates: “The Association shall last as long as shall be necessary to attain the objectives set forth in Article 1.” However, this association, founded by fourteen persons, amongst whom Germaine Tillion, Georges Wellers, Geneviève Anthonioz née de Gaulle, barrister Bernard Jouanneau and Pierre Vidal-Naquet, has, in nearly a quarter of a century, never published anything and, to this day in 2006, remains in existence. In the event that it be maintained, wrongly, that the group has produced a book entitled Chambres à gaz, secret d’État (Gas chambers, State secret), it will be fitting to recall that the book in question is in fact the French translation of a work first published in German by Eugen Kogon, Hermann Langbein and Adalbert Rückerl and in which there featured a few contributions by a few members of the “ASSAG” (Paris, Editions de Minuit, 1984; English translation published as Nazi Mass Murder: a documentary history of the use of poison gas, New Haven, Yale University Press, 1994).

Remark: By itself the book’s French title gives a fair idea of the contents: instead of proof, supported by photographs of gas chambers, drawings, sketches, forensic reports on the crime weapon, the reader finds only speculations based on what is called “evidence” (éléments de preuve, “elements of proof”, not proof), and this because, we are told, those gas chambers had constituted the greatest possible secret, a “State secret”. If ever there were a “weapon of mass destruction” that deserved a proper forensic examination it was indeed this one. In effect, it constitutes an anomaly in the history of science for at least two reasons: it had no precedent and has had no continuation; it arose out of nothing only to return to nothingness. However, the history of science knows of no such phenomenon. In any case, by the very fact of its existence yet today in 2006, one may say that the ASSAG association has still not attained the objective for which it was founded nearly twenty-five years ago. It has still found neither proof nor even any evidence of the “Nazi gas chambers’” existence.

Here's a very telling article written 10 years later about the "ASSAG", whose sole purpose was to find concrete evidence to prove the existence of Germans' homicidal gas chambers and which I transcribed and quickly translated (DeepL proofreading) for you:

The ASSAG, a promising association that remained sterile​

In 2015, after extensive research on homicidal gas chambers in the German concentration camps during the war, I had not been able to find the slightest proof, the slightest credible testimony of the existence of this mass execution process. I used this hitherto unsuccessful research as the subject of a chapter in my book Supplement to the Interviews of Georges Albertini.

Then I became aware of an association whose work could not fail to enlighten me: it too aimed to find proof of the existence of the said gas chambers, and it had greater investigative capacities than I did, in particular the collaboration of reputedly qualified researchers.

On 28 April 1982, the formation of an "Association for the Study of Gas Assassinations under the National Socialist Regime (ASSAG)" was declared to the Préfecture de Police in Paris. The purpose of this association, it was stated, was "to seek out and monitor evidence of the use of toxic gas by those in charge of the National Socialist regime in Europe to kill people of different nationalities; to contribute to the publication of this evidence... ".

The board of directors included eminent personalities such as Geneviève Anthonioz-De Gaulle (1920-2002), a member of the Resistance who had been deported to Ravensbrück and the General's niece, who was much appreciated at the Economic and Social Council, where I had worked alongside her, and Germaine Tillion (1920-2008), also a member of the Resistance who had been deported to Ravensbrück. Both had published very detailed memories of their deportation: La Traversée de la nuit (Seuil 1998) for the former and Ravensbrück (Seuil 1973 and 1988) for the latter. The former said nothing about the gas chambers, as if none had existed in the camp. The second one too, at least in the initial edition of her book. In the 1988 edition, she did not mention them, without however providing the slightest description, without the slightest precision. Since both were very busy, their participation in the association's research had to be limited. However, their presence had reinforced the credibility of the association and the possibility of applying for subsidies.

Alongside them were Joseph Rovan, professor of German language and civilisation at the University of Paris; Jean Gavard, Inspector of the National Education Administration; Jean-Louis Crémieux-Brilhac, Director of the Documentation française; Renée Aubry, head of the cabinet of the Minister of Veterans' Affairs; Pierre Vidal-Naquet, honorary professor at the Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, presented as "author of a study in response to Faurissonian assertions" (sic); Augustin Girard, director of the Studies and Research Department of the Ministry of Culture.

There was also a former policeman, Jacques Delarue, honorary divisional commissioner at the Ministry of the Interior, who was no doubt useful in gaining access to certain confidential files; and also a writer, Jean-Pierre Faye, who was probably destined to write and publish the results of the association's research; and even a lawyer, Bernard Jouanneau, who was perhaps judged to be capable of confronting the sceptics of the revisionist school, since he had already pleaded against Robert Faurisson.

Two other participants were presented as particularly competent in the matter: Serge Choumoff, a retired engineer, designated as "author of a book on the gas chamber at Mauthausen", the camp where he had been interned; Georges Wellers, honorary senior researcher at the CNRS and a former deportee to Auschwitz, "author of books on Auschwitz and gassing in general". None of them having, in their writings, produced proof of the existence of the said gas chambers, perhaps they intended to make up for it with the ASSAG...

In any case, all the conditions seemed to have been met for this small team to quickly gather, control and make public evidence of the existence and operation of the gas chambers in question. Since, moreover, it had not invited any representative of the revisionist school to join the association, it had been able to work in complete serenity.

And what was the result?

To my great surprise, I searched for weeks and weeks for the fruit of the association's work, scrutinised the press organs with which its initiators collaborated, questioned here and there, and interrogated several websites, but always in vain: in 2015, more than thirty years after its creation, it was impossible to find any trace not only of the missing proofs, but also of personal research carried out by members of the ASSAG on the gas chambers.

Were those among them who, through their works, had made a speciality of it, Serge Choumoff and Georges Wellers, not able to provide details of what they had witnessed? We would have expected them to locate the gas chambers mentioned in their writings (aerial photographs of their camp exist); to represent the installations, even with the help of sketches; to explain how they functioned, how often they were used and how they were used; to explain the selection of prisoners promised to enter them, the way they were taken there, the way they were prevented from evading them; as well as the duration of the torment, the subsequent ventilation of the premises and the measures taken to ensure that the wind did not blow the gas into the immediate environment; to describe the evacuation of the corpses, the precautions taken by the guards not to risk being asphyxiated themselves - all of which are "elements of proof" that the association had set itself the task of collecting, controlling and publishing.

Furthermore, our two authors could have questioned the choice of German officials to carry out mass executions of prisoners by using a device that was so complex, so costly, so slow to act and so dangerous for those around them. A simple bullet in the back of the head would have sufficed, a quick, efficient and economical practice adopted around the same time by the Bolsheviks in Katyn and elsewhere in the USSR, later by the Maoists in mainland China, by the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, and by Communists the world over to carry out their mass killings. Why, indeed, dangerous and expensive gas chambers in a Germany still impoverished by war?

Thirty-three years after its creation, the ASSAG seemed to have found nothing, checked nothing, published nothing. Was it possible that an association that had shown such promise in shedding light on an important aspect of contemporary history had come up empty?

But if it had found nothing so far, perhaps it was continuing its research, with new collaborators to replace those who had disappeared. According to article 2 of its statutes, was it not supposed to exist until "the realisation of its object"?

The Préfecture de Police of Paris, when consulted, certified that the association had not been declared dissolved. As its headquarters, 7 place Pinerl in the 13th arrondissement of Paris, had not been changed either, I sent a request for information in October. My letter remained unanswered. On 17 November, I sent it again, by registered mail with acknowledgement of receipt. But two items were returned to me with the note: "addressee unknown at this address". I went to the place, consulted the letterboxes, questioned the neighbours, without any further success. Had the ASSAG ceased to exist without saying so, so that its failure would not be known?

At the beginning of the new year, I learned that Anise Postel-Vinay, treasurer of the ASSAG, had just published a book entitled Vivre (Living) with Editions Grasset. On 12 February, I wrote to her, through her publisher, to ask whether the association still existed, whether it had published the results of its research on the gas chambers and, if so, where I could read them.

I received a long handwritten letter from her on the 24th, explaining to me, among other things, that the ASSAG had been "dissolved for some years", that it had been founded "when Professor Faurisson began to proclaim, in the 1970s, that the German gas chambers had never existed"; that the ASSAG participated in the struggles against the "revisionists" in France (Roques affair), in Switzerland (Paschoud affair) and in Canada (Zündel affair)"... She added: "personally I followed above all the crimes of the SS doctors in all the camps"...

On the subject of the execution gas chambers, my correspondent explained: "We have decided to compile a 'Dokumentation' on this very special mass crime of National Socialist Germany". However, she neglected to indicate the nature of the documentation gathered (apart from the German book mentioned above, Gas Chambers, State Secret, which was also devoid of any evidence). Nor did she mention that the ASSAG had itself undertaken a "study of gas killings under the National Socialist regime", the sole purpose of the association according to its statutes.

However, the idea came to me that if the ASSAG had dissolved when it was supposed to remain until "the realisation of its object", it was perhaps because it had found "evidence" on this subject which Anise Postel-Vinay had neglected to share with me. I answered her immediately:

Dear Madam,

I thank you very much for the very detailed letter you sent me in reply to my letter of the 12th. But I have read it over and over again, and I can find nothing that corresponds to the objective of the ASSAG, which is set out in its statutes, namely "to seek out and check evidence of the use of poison gas by those in charge of the National Socialist regime in Europe to kill people of different nationalist persuasions; to contribute to the publication of this evidence... "

This is the subject of my research. And as this was the raison d'être of the ASSAG, I thought I would find in the results of its research the evidence or proof that I lacked. Forgive me for insisting, but perhaps you could complete your letter on this point?

Please accept, dear Madam, the expression of my best wishes.

As the days and weeks passed, my second letter went unanswered. A friend who was doing research at the Bibliothèque de documentation internationale contemporaine (BDIC) in Paris around the same time told me that in 2012, Anise Postel-Vinay had deposited five boxes of archives there. A note accompanied them, probably written in her hand, indicating that the ASSAG, "in 2008, chose to dissolve itself" and that the said archives bore witness to the "intense editorial activity that constituted the heart of the association's activities".

What if this was the 'evidence' discovered by ASSAG that justified its dissolution? Naturally, I was eager to find out. And also to know why it had not made them public, as its statutes required.

However, this documentation, the notice still said, was "available for consultation by dispensation", after authorization. As Anise Postel-Vinay had failed to inform me of the deposit of these boxes and had still not replied to my second letter, I doubted that she would authorise me to consult them. By dint of insistence, I managed to get someone on the spot to give me details of their contents: books in French, German, English and Italian; press cuttings in various languages, sometimes accompanied by French translations; files relating to the writings of revisionist researchers and to several of their trials in France and in various other countries; minutes of meetings; correspondence relating to the translation and distribution in France of foreign works.

But there is no analysis and comparison of testimonies relating to the gas chambers, no consultation of asphyxiating gas specialists, no examination of German administrative archives, no expert reports and study missions conducted in camps that are supposed to have contained homicidal gas chambers, in short, no research of a scientific nature corresponding to the association's objective. None of this was in the boxes.

On the other hand, there was also a voluminous correspondence with associations of former deportees likely to provide support to the ASSAG. As well as numerous requests for subsidies addressed to the Ministry of Veterans' Affairs, the CNRS, and various French, European and international institutions - requests that were often successful, perhaps because of the high functions and notoriety of certain members of the ASSAG, such as the niece of General De Gaulle.

This inventory made it clear to me that, after thirty years, the association had not only failed, but had not been able to continue to prove by its existence that the existence of the disputed execution chambers could be proven. Its leaders therefore decided to close it down. However, they were careful not to announce it openly, on the sly, without even declaring it to the Préfecture de Police. Thus they did not have to acknowledge that, however much they claimed to be specialists, they had not been able to discover "evidence of mass murder by gas under the National Socialist regime", as the association's statutes provided.

Had Germaine Tillion and Geneviève Anthonioz-De Gaulle, who were awarded the honours of the Panthéon in 2015, realised the fiasco they had been led into before closing their eyes? And of the justification thus given to the conclusions of researchers from the revisionist school?

Written by Morvan Duhamel in Écrits de Paris, April 2016.

A lot of what we call the Holocaust is people slaughtering Jews in their own communities as the Nazis swept through Europe. Obviously the Nazis slaughtered a huge amount, but a lot of people did it on their own because they thought a new world order was coming. Think about the Polish Jews that were killed in the Holocaust, a tremendous amount died because the Polish police gave up their own citizens. Offered them on a silver platter at the behest of the Nazis.

The biggest genocidal project in WW2 was General Plan Ost. The Nazis were planning to wipe out the slavs of Europe and recolonize their territory with settler Germans to multiply for the future. They directly took inspiration from what the Americans did to the Native Americans, but they wanted to fast forward that with industrialized murder. Had the Soviets not stopped them, the entire racial make up of Europe and Asia would have been reshaped forever.

Much like the Holocaust is the main pillar of the educational curriculum pillar in the West, Generalplan Ost is the main educational pillar in the East. The only way kikes can diminish Russian resentment at their rule is by claiming that the alternative is being turned into lampshades.

"Nearly all the wartime documentation on Generalplan Ost was deliberately destroyed shortly before Germany's defeat in May 1945, and the full proposal has never been found."
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.ph...op#Development_and_reconstruction_of_the_plan

Russian refugees were instrumental in funding and supporting the rise of National Socialist Germany and tens of thousands of White Russian veterans and their sons served in the Wehrmacht.

"Between 15,000 and 20,000 anti-communist White émigrés who had left Russia after the Russian Revolution joined the ranks of the Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS, with 1,500 acting as interpreters and more than 10,000 serving in the guard force of the Russian Protective Corps."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrmacht#Personnel_and_recruitment

There was a bureau of Russian affairs in Germany, staffed by White Russian refugees, it's likely that people like the painter Bogdanov-Belsky, for example, were granted German residency by the bureau. Looking through the archives of German art from the Barbarossa period one can find records of extensive paintings of Russians, Russian life and Russians in the Wehrmacht. The paintings which depict such scenes were prioritized for destruction and only the catalog listings now remain. There may be a few pieces that survived in some basement or were made into postcards which may one day appear at some small discrete auction, but revealing possession of such pieces would attract the ire of both the Russian and the German branches of ZOG.

 

[NSJAP]

 

[mr.moon1488]

 

[L50LasPak]

I'm forced to ask the obvious question. If the Holocaust was faked, why was any of the evidence left standing at all for people to examine independently? If I was perpetrating a scam of this magnitude, I would have taken pictures, taken artifacts, taken film, and then moved in with demolition teams and leveled every single camp brick by brick. Then dug up the foundations, then flat out re-terraformed the location altogether, so nobody could visit the site and make even basic estimates as to how large the camps would be based on the area they took up or their foundations.

Don't tell me that would be suspicious, I could easily justify it as the camps not needing to stand because they're a monument to genocide or something. There are a hundred different ways you could spin doctor it. All of the victorious powers of World War 2 were apparently in on this, so why was their plan so terrible? Why is so much of the evidence still around for us to examine? If the camps were destroyed and certain photographs selectively edited out of history, the authorities would have had total control over the narrative.

There is a ton of information about the Holocaust that I consider exaggerated, often laughably, but it also doesn't change the basic fact that this is one incredibly dimwitted conspiracy if such glaring evidence was left behind. Where did they go wrong anyway? Was it disagreements between the Allies that caused the official narrative to shift? Shoddy record keeping? Were not enough people in the know about it to be trusted with covering it up properly? Did different factions have different levels of how they planned on covering things up? How far up the chain of command did this plan even reach? Did we (we being the Big Three Allied powers) include the governments of less important nations in on the plan? Whose idea was it to make any of the sites open to the public to go examine at their leisure?

 

[BEz939]

This is the most retarded thread on the site by a long shot.

 

[mr.moon1488]

I'm forced to ask the obvious question. If the Holocaust was faked, why was any of the evidence left standing at all for people to examine independently? If I was perpetrating a scam of this magnitude, I would have taken pictures, taken artifacts, taken film, and then moved in with demolition teams and leveled every single camp brick by brick. Then dug up the foundations, then flat out re-terraformed the location altogether, so nobody could visit the site and make even basic estimates as to how large the camps would be based on the area they took up or their foundations.

Don't tell me that would be suspicious, I could easily justify it as the camps not needing to stand because they're a monument to genocide or something. There are a hundred different ways you could spin doctor it. All of the victorious powers of World War 2 were apparently in on this, so why was their plan so terrible? Why is so much of the evidence still around for us to examine? If the camps were destroyed and certain photographs selectively edited out of history, the authorities would have had total control over the narrative.

There is a ton of information about the Holocaust that I consider exaggerated, often laughably, but it also doesn't change the basic fact that this is one incredibly dimwitted conspiracy if such glaring evidence was left behind. Where did they go wrong anyway? Was it disagreements between the Allies that caused the official narrative to shift? Shoddy record keeping? Were not enough people in the know about it to be trusted with covering it up properly? Did different factions have different levels of how they planned on covering things up? How far up the chain of command did this plan even reach? Did we (we being the Big Three Allied powers) include the governments of less important nations in on the plan? Whose idea was it to make any of the sites open to the public to go examine at their leisure?

How do you know they didn't destroy a ton of exculpatory evidence though? Likewise, you could easily turn this argument around and say that the Nazis would have left no evidence that the holocaust ever happened.

 

[L50LasPak]

How do you know they didn't destroy a ton of exculpatory evidence though? Likewise, you could easily turn this argument around and say that the Nazis would have left no evidence that the holocaust ever happened.

Why didn't fucking any of these people destroy the evidence thoroughly? They all had interest in doing so.

 

[Bonesjones]

Why didn't fucking any of these people destroy the evidence thoroughly? They all had interest in doing so.

Why would you destroy evidence that doesn't exist? We had the enigma machine cracked for years, so we would have known and proven the holocaust existed beyond vague metaphors and half assed recreation. The holocaust narrative was pushed to cover for allied war crimes and to morally justify it after the fact.

 

[L50LasPak]

Why would you destroy evidence that doesn't exist? We had the enigma machine cracked for years, so we would have known and proven the holocaust existed beyond vague metaphors and half assed recreation. The holocaust narrative was pushed to cover for allied war crimes and to morally justify it after the fact.

Then how did the conspiracy ever expect people to accept fake evidence as real if the Nazis would have logically destroyed all of the real evidence?

No matter which way you slice it, there's too much evidence left standing for this situation to make any sense no matter which way you come at it from. The evidence we do have is so idiotic that its difficult to imagine people ever trying to pass it off as real, but logically if there was a conspiracy they would have destroyed such evidence rather than leaving it for people to pick apart. It doesn't make any god damn sense.

 

[Bonesjones]

Then how did the conspiracy ever expect people to accept fake evidence as real if the Nazis would have logically destroyed all of the real evidence?

No matter which way you slice it, there's too much evidence left standing for this situation to make any sense no matter which way you come at it from. The evidence we do have is so idiotic that its difficult to imagine people ever trying to pass it off as real, but logically if there was a conspiracy they would have destroyed such evidence rather than leaving it for people to pick apart. It doesn't make any god damn sense.

The facts are basic and easy, the Nazis had slave labor camps all over Europe. Either due to rumors or escapees the large amount of dead due to typhus caused rumors of gas chambers and cremation to spread. The allies turned that info into propaganda that was spread to cover their own misdeeds. Post war jews used that propaganda as their own to solidify world opinion to get Isreal started. The only losers were the Germans who were forced to suffer for it. Considering they both started the war and were rebuilt by the allies afterwards, it was an indignity they could suffer.

 

[L50LasPak]

The facts are basic and easy, the Nazis had slave labor camps all over Europe. Either due to rumors or escapees the large amount of dead due to typhus caused rumors of gas chambers and cremation to spread. The allies turned that info into propaganda that was spread to cover their own misdeeds. Post war jews used that propaganda as their own to solidify world opinion to get Isreal started. The only losers were the Germans who were forced to suffer for it. Considering they both started the war and were rebuilt by the allies afterwards, it was an indignity they could suffer.

Yet they were so horrendously sloppy with the evidence that basic mathematics invalidates the casualty figures, and simple things like photographs of the supposed death camps, which are still standing and publicly viewable, poke massive holes in the official narrative. This conspiracy seems ludicrously mismanaged to the point where its almost comedic. Why was there not more effort put in place to cover up the evidence, so people like us could never examine it for inconsistencies?